We’ll still have standout seasons because the surprise guys that become really valuable on the open market have to prove themselves before they are. Our real problem will be to continually recruit the 3 stars, and pick up the portal guys we think can be stars year after year while losing our best players after a year or two. Sustaining a top tier team will be almost impossible. Fortunately for us, the rest of our conference will be in the same boat and fighting the same battles, so we should be able to compete for a B12 championship. The only way to save college athletics is to have some type of NIL cap and parity system, but that’s not going to happen as long as it’s news just how stupidly rich players are getting for basically playing 14-16th grade football. So yes, most of us are screwed.
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We’ll still have standout seasons because the surprise guys that become really valuable on the open market have to prove themselves before they are. Our real problem will be to continually recruit the 3 stars, and pick up the portal guys we think can be stars year after year while losing our best players after a year or two. Sustaining a top tier team will be almost impossible. Fortunately for us, the rest of our conference will be in the same boat and fighting the same battles, so we should be able to compete for a B12 championship. The only way to save college athletics is to have some type of NIL cap and parity system, but that’s not going to happen as long as it’s news just how stupidly rich players are getting for basically playing 14-16th grade football. So yes, most of us are screwed.
Wut? That wasn't close to the point of the post to which you're responding.
I'm not seeing the other teams lose starters like we are losing them. We lost almost half our starters to the portal. Other teams are losing one or two. Houston we have a problem.
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Gundy has done a good job of presenting a competitive team on a consistent basis. We all appreciate what he has done. However, a talented, hungry coach can win at OSU. Other coaches have won here with lesser resources. It's not like we don't have a lot to sell kids. I don't worry about Texas recruiting (NIL payments); we don't even try to out recruit teams like that. We are failing at this critical time because of leadership. Despite Gundy's success, he has flaws, and one is his inability to adapt, and this is a current drag on the program.
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No its not. 0-10-1 was pretty tough to bear. In my 4 years we had no bowl games and before the Pickens gift even we referred to the stadium as rustoladium. Thank goodness for me I caught some of peak Eddie (not the best but we did have an elite 8 year with Doug and Desmond when I was a sophomore) so that was nice but football was nowhere we were then even now. We are a couple years removed from playing in the CFP if not for a half yard. This sucks so far but it doesn't touch rock bottom.
We’re still in the training wheels stage of NIL/portal. We’re experiencing what we are because of our coaches, which is hopefully temporary, not our place on the food chain which is IMO much more permanent unless something major happens.
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This isn’t rock bottom. Yeah, this feels bad right now but the 0-10-1 was the low point. The sun will come up tomorrow and we will move on.
The bottom was not only 0-10-1, it was also the local media running their heads about how Old Bumfuzzled should be allowed to turn it around.
He should have been gone after the 88 season. No way he didn't know what was going on that got us the near death penalty. Still took them three more years after 0-10-1 to get rid of him.
Exactly
I still remember sitting in the student section during the Ice Bowl. Security came up and took a pull off the schnapps we snuck in then gave it back.
The investigation was already underway, so I guess I'd ask whether you think other coaches didn't know this? They'd be beating down OSU's door to take over for Pat & inherit the penalties?
Feels like alot of hindsight.
In 88 I said he should be gone, actually he and the coaching staff should have gotten canned in 86 in hindsight also a whole bunch of administration should have resigned. The goons at least had the class to get rid of King Barry and his staff for doing the same stuff. May have made the penalties less severe.
We could outspend the goons for players when it was illegal why not now when it's legal?
No one was wanting to take over after the penalties we got. It was a losing proposition.
Oh they didn’t get rid of Barry for the penalties. That super naive.
He was the biggest cocaine kingpin in the southwestern region of the country
Well they got rid of him at the time of the penalties.
Yeah
Good look for the NCAA so they got a lesser penalty. He still got to hang around Norman and keep the coke flowing. Win win.
Exactly. Charles Thompson with the coke and the other guys shooting up an apartment complex had alot to do with Switzer's exit.
Yep. They were street runners. He was the boss
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