Ryan Walters announces official partnership with Oklahoma Dept of Education and PragerU

To answer your questions:
1. White supremicists would be a horrific hire
2. No problem with preachers that leave their religion at their front door. I’m such a radical I might consider a rabbi, yogi, imam, Buddhist monk or even an atheist if they aren’t proselytizing and meet certification requirements.
3. I don’t believe there is a clause prohibiting adultery. How sexist of you to only name adulteresses, mysogenist.
4. The question is have you started drinking Bud Light yet instead of your hoppy crap?

The guy had been arrested for having borderline kiddie porn, he’s a horrific hire. Walters is stupid to be going after the hire for being a drag queen.
1. no $&!t, but it happens (you probably have some in your district) *relax, I'm only speculating here
2. no problem as well; as long as they don't try to indoctrinate (which was the reason walters is attacking the drag queen hire, it was tongue in cheek in case you missed it)
3. read above...and my mistake on terminology, adulteress or adulterer is what I should have used...and you should know by previous posts of mine, that I am far from a misogynist!
4. what is my hoppy crap? every beer has hops...
your last statement is one I agree with...holy crap, we agree on something...
 
1. no $&!t, but it happens (you probably have some in your district) *relax, I'm only speculating here
2. no problem as well; as long as they don't try to indoctrinate (which was the reason walters is attacking the drag queen hire, it was tongue in cheek in case you missed it)
3. read above...and my mistake on terminology, adulteress or adulterer is what I should have used...and you should know by previous posts of mine, that I am far from a misogynist!
4. what is my hoppy crap? every beer has hops...
your last statement is one I agree with...holy crap, we agree on something...
Damn Ryan Walters, look what he’s done.
 
To answer your questions:
1. White supremicists would be a horrific hire
2. No problem with preachers that leave their religion at their front door. I’m such a radical I might consider a rabbi, yogi, imam, Buddhist monk or even an atheist if they aren’t proselytizing and meet certification requirements.
3. I don’t believe there is a clause prohibiting adultery. How sexist of you to only name adulteresses, mysogenist.
4. The question is have you started drinking Bud Light yet instead of your hoppy crap?

The guy had been arrested for having borderline kiddie porn, he’s a horrific hire. Walters is stupid to be going after the hire for being a drag queen.
So, the guy has apparently stayed out of further trouble and comes with great qualifications:

Studied Doctorate Education at University of Phoenix
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Studied Education Administration at University of Central Oklahoma

Studied at Oklahoma State University

I say let him do his job. He may want to fully focus on his new job and pull back from drag queen performances. If one has found a great paying job, why take dollar bills while putting on a drag show? Besides it must take a lot of effort to look that cheap.
 
Did anybody else apply for the principal's job with Dr. in front of their name, who was even better qualified? If so, that would be the scandal. I doubt it. The whole thing is ridiculous. Decades ago, Californians voted no on a proposition banning gays from being teachers. Not even then Gov. Reagan supported it.
 
Did anybody else apply for the principal's job with Dr. in front of their name, who was even better qualified? If so, that would be the scandal. I doubt it. The whole thing is ridiculous. Decades ago, Californians voted no on a proposition banning gays from being teachers. Not even then Gov. Reagan supported it.

When did Side Gigs get you fired? Is there a clause in his contract that he can't hold a second job ? That would be the only way I would see there being any issue here.

They guy had a second job where he was a paid performer. Nothing at all wrong with that at all. LOTS of teachers work multiple jobs

I mean crap...Lawton has a Math teacher that runs a Faith based Non Profit company aimed to combat alcoholism and is a paid and coordinating Pastor for Alcoholic Recovery at the Local Baptist church.

I mean the Oklahoma Teacher of the Year in 2019 who was also a Youth Pastor at his church was arrested and accused of Rape and Lewd molestation of underage girls.


You're side job outside of school has ZERO reflection on who you are and your character as a person and should have no bearing or impact on the Administration or Sec of Education wildly speculating about your ability to do a job because of a second profession/job you have.
 
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There is a MASSIVE move right now with 10+ lawsuits involving teachers in the US where the school district has fired their teachers over the fact it is discovered their Teachers have an Only Fans acct where they are producing and posting Adult Sex Themed content and publishing it to Only Fans and making tons of money doing it.

Schools are firing these teachers as they are uncovered. HOWEVER, Legally they are starting to challenge this....can a teach be fired for having an Only Fans acct they post adult content to?

Ultimately I think the Legal side of this will be tied into the Only Fans type lawsuits where the teachers are being fired. Can a Public Teacher hold a job and make money in an Adult Themed Profession while still being a successful educator for children?
 
The amount of time some of you spend thinking about drag queens is honestly kind of scary.

Next time a drag queen gets convicted of raping a child or trafficking anybody, tag me on here. I'll do the same when a religious "leader", police officer, or politician does the same. Then, after 6 months we can see who has more tags. Loser donates $100 to charity of the other persons choice. Who wants to take me up on this?

On another note, wouldn't it be just swell if we paid our teachers enough money so they didn't have to do Only Fans on the side to survive in this country?
 
The amount of time some of you spend thinking about drag queens is honestly kind of scary.

Next time a drag queen gets convicted of raping a child or trafficking anybody, tag me on here. I'll do the same when a religious "leader", police officer, or politician does the same. Then, after 6 months we can see who has more tags. Loser donates $100 to charity of the other persons choice. Who wants to take me up on this?

On another note, wouldn't it be just swell if we paid our teachers enough money so they didn't have to do Only Fans on the side to survive in this country?


2016 Yukon Teach of the Year arrested while serving as the Norman High School Principal in July 2019 ..multiple women report being drugged and sexually abused by him in his home


2019 Harrah High School teacher arrested for allegedly committing lewd acts with a student

2019 Sallisaw Teacher arrested for allegedly having a sexual relationship with 2 DIFFERENT students

2023 Perkins 3rd grde teacher arrested for allegedly being drunk in the classroom. Blew a 0.24 which is 3x the legal limit.

2019 Goodwell Public School teacher arrested on FOUR counts of Lewd Molestation and FOUR counts of child abuse after undercover investigation

2023 Wellston Substitute Teacher and Wife of the Wellston police chief arrested for an alleged sexual relationship with 15 yr old

2022 Holdenville Teacher arrested by OSBI after investigation of inappropriate sexual relationship with a student

2022 Eagletown Teacher in McCurtain County arrested and charged with 7 felonies of child pornography

2003. Durant Teacher wanted on Federal Warrant for child molestation and child pornography allegations was spotted and arrested at Wyandotte Gym

2022 Granite Public Schools confirms woman charged with having inappropriate sexual relationship with 16 year old works for school district

2022 Deer Creek Staff Member arrested for inappropriate communication with Student

2022 Bixby Teacher arrested. Was a former Broken Arrow teacher and track coach who was accused of having a sexual encounter with a student at his home in 2019

2022 Tulsa Edison middle School Teach arrested after allegations of an inappropriate relationship with a student in 2018 & 2019 in Kansas

2023 McLoud Teacher arrested and accused of soliciting sex with minors by use of Technology

2022 Choctaw Nicoma Park Teacher charged with two counts of inappropriate relationship with 14 yr old
 
I would absolutely hope everyone would be upset if a school hires a white supremacist. I would hope everyone would be upset if a school superintendent knowingly hires an elementary school employee credibly charged with child pornogtaphy.
And I think is it is entirely reasonable to wonder why the same school superintendent hires that person’s night club co-worker for another elementary school position. Giving that superintendent scrutiny and questioning his hiring decisions.certainly seems understandable.

Teachers have been relived from their teaching positions for many reasons that patrons may disagree. Several teachers have been fired for onlyfans sites, affairs outside of the classroom, and praying in schools.

Shane Murnan was charged in Payne County by DA Rob Hudson's office. Rob Hudson is now on the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals. I know Rob. I've worked with Rob Hudson in various positions at various times for probably 15 years now. He is about as far from a liberal as you can get.

The charges were filed 20 years ago. They were dismissed on the basis (stated in the motion to dismiss) that "COURT FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME".

The case was subsequently expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18 and 19. Sections G through I state the following:

G. Upon the entry of an order to seal the records, or any part thereof, or upon an automatic expungement described in subsection B of this section, the subject official actions shall be deemed never to have occurred, and the person in interest and all criminal justice agencies may properly reply, upon any inquiry in the matter, that no such action ever occurred and that no such record exists with respect to such person.

H. Inspection of the records included in the order may thereafter be permitted by the court only upon petition by the person in interest who is the subject of such records, the Attorney General, or by the prosecuting agency and only to those persons and for such purposes named in such petition.

I. Employers, educational institutions, state and local government agencies, officials, and employees shall not, in any application or interview or otherwise, require an applicant to disclose any information contained in sealed records. An applicant need not, in answer to any question concerning arrest and criminal records, provide information that has been sealed, including any reference to or information concerning such sealed information and may state that no such action has ever occurred. Such an application may not be denied solely because of the refusal of the applicant to disclose arrest and criminal records information that has been sealed. (Emphasis mine)

IF the school district has REFUSED to hire him for a charge that was dismissed and subsequently expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18/19....if they took it into consideration in their hiring decisions.....if they even asked him about it in a job application...if they dismissed him after finding out about those expunged charges....they would have been violating Oklahoma law and subjecting themselves to a really strong lawsuit.


Ryan Walters signed Murnan's teaching certificate renewal himself. That renewal includes a felony records check. It showed nothing because once it's expunged it is "deemed never to have occurred, and the person in interest and all criminal justice agencies may properly reply, upon an inquiry in the matter, that no such action ever occurred and that no such record exists with respect to such person."
 
To answer your questions:
1. White supremicists would be a horrific hire
2. No problem with preachers that leave their religion at their front door. I’m such a radical I might consider a rabbi, yogi, imam, Buddhist monk or even an atheist if they aren’t proselytizing and meet certification requirements.
3. I don’t believe there is a clause prohibiting adultery. How sexist of you to only name adulteresses, mysogenist.
4. The question is have you started drinking Bud Light yet instead of your hoppy crap?

The guy had been arrested for having borderline kiddie porn, he’s a horrific hire. Walters is stupid to be going after the hire for being a drag queen.
If he's going to go after him at all, he HAS to go after him for being a drag queen only....and let his mindless minions go after him for the charges that were dismissed and expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18 and 19.

He'd be violating Oklahoma law if he went after him in any way for the expunged charges. The school system would have been violating Oklahoma law if they refused to hire him, fired him, or even asked him about charges expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18 and 19.
 
Shane Murnan was charged in Payne County by DA Rob Hudson's office. Rob Hudson is now on the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals. I know Rob. I've worked with Rob Hudson in various positions at various times for probably 15 years now. He is about as far from a liberal as you can get.

The charges were filed 20 years ago. They were dismissed on the basis (stated in the motion to dismiss) that "COURT FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME".

The case was subsequently expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18 and 19. Sections G through I state the following:

G. Upon the entry of an order to seal the records, or any part thereof, or upon an automatic expungement described in subsection B of this section, the subject official actions shall be deemed never to have occurred, and the person in interest and all criminal justice agencies may properly reply, upon any inquiry in the matter, that no such action ever occurred and that no such record exists with respect to such person.

H. Inspection of the records included in the order may thereafter be permitted by the court only upon petition by the person in interest who is the subject of such records, the Attorney General, or by the prosecuting agency and only to those persons and for such purposes named in such petition.

I. Employers, educational institutions, state and local government agencies, officials, and employees shall not, in any application or interview or otherwise, require an applicant to disclose any information contained in sealed records. An applicant need not, in answer to any question concerning arrest and criminal records, provide information that has been sealed, including any reference to or information concerning such sealed information and may state that no such action has ever occurred. Such an application may not be denied solely because of the refusal of the applicant to disclose arrest and criminal records information that has been sealed. (Emphasis mine)

IF the school district has REFUSED to hire him for a charge that was dismissed and subsequently expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18/19....if they took it into consideration in their hiring decisions.....if they even asked him about it in a job application...if they dismissed him after finding out about those expunged charges....they would have been violating Oklahoma law and subjecting themselves to a really strong lawsuit.


Ryan Walters signed Murnan's teaching certificate renewal himself. That renewal includes a felony records check. It showed nothing because once it's expunged it is "deemed never to have occurred, and the person in interest and all criminal justice agencies may properly reply, upon an inquiry in the matter, that no such action ever occurred and that no such record exists with respect to such person."
That’s a lot of meaningless typing. None of it changes the fact the Superintendent was quoted as saying he knew about the charges. We are talking about an ELEMENTARY school position. It is very fair to be concerned hiring someone to be around young people each and every day that has a credible charge of child pornography.
I hope Murman finds a great job, I hope he leads a great life…but hiring him for position being around elementary aged students is neither wise..nor is it considering the needs of families and patrons of the district.

Judge Dave Allen said at the time of the charges that it was “clear from review of the pictures that it was child pornography”. The Stillwater Superintendent said at the time of the charges “we have reason to believe there is a problem”.
 
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2016 Yukon Teach of the Year arrested while serving as the Norman High School Principal in July 2019 ..multiple women report being drugged and sexually abused by him in his home


2019 Harrah High School teacher arrested for allegedly committing lewd acts with a student

2019 Sallisaw Teacher arrested for allegedly having a sexual relationship with 2 DIFFERENT students

2023 Perkins 3rd grde teacher arrested for allegedly being drunk in the classroom. Blew a 0.24 which is 3x the legal limit.

2019 Goodwell Public School teacher arrested on FOUR counts of Lewd Molestation and FOUR counts of child abuse after undercover investigation

2023 Wellston Substitute Teacher and Wife of the Wellston police chief arrested for an alleged sexual relationship with 15 yr old

2022 Holdenville Teacher arrested by OSBI after investigation of inappropriate sexual relationship with a student

2022 Eagletown Teacher in McCurtain County arrested and charged with 7 felonies of child pornography

2003. Durant Teacher wanted on Federal Warrant for child molestation and child pornography allegations was spotted and arrested at Wyandotte Gym

2022 Granite Public Schools confirms woman charged with having inappropriate sexual relationship with 16 year old works for school district

2022 Deer Creek Staff Member arrested for inappropriate communication with Student

2022 Bixby Teacher arrested. Was a former Broken Arrow teacher and track coach who was accused of having a sexual encounter with a student at his home in 2019

2022 Tulsa Edison middle School Teach arrested after allegations of an inappropriate relationship with a student in 2018 & 2019 in Kansas

2023 McLoud Teacher arrested and accused of soliciting sex with minors by use of Technology

2022 Choctaw Nicoma Park Teacher charged with two counts of inappropriate relationship with 14 yr old
And none of these people should be allowed anywhere near an elementary school. What’s your point?
 
Shane Murnan was charged in Payne County by DA Rob Hudson's office. Rob Hudson is now on the Oklahoma Court of Criminal Appeals. I know Rob. I've worked with Rob Hudson in various positions at various times for probably 15 years now. He is about as far from a liberal as you can get.

The charges were filed 20 years ago. They were dismissed on the basis (stated in the motion to dismiss) that "COURT FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME".

The case was subsequently expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18 and 19. Sections G through I state the following:

G. Upon the entry of an order to seal the records, or any part thereof, or upon an automatic expungement described in subsection B of this section, the subject official actions shall be deemed never to have occurred, and the person in interest and all criminal justice agencies may properly reply, upon any inquiry in the matter, that no such action ever occurred and that no such record exists with respect to such person.

H. Inspection of the records included in the order may thereafter be permitted by the court only upon petition by the person in interest who is the subject of such records, the Attorney General, or by the prosecuting agency and only to those persons and for such purposes named in such petition.

I. Employers, educational institutions, state and local government agencies, officials, and employees shall not, in any application or interview or otherwise, require an applicant to disclose any information contained in sealed records. An applicant need not, in answer to any question concerning arrest and criminal records, provide information that has been sealed, including any reference to or information concerning such sealed information and may state that no such action has ever occurred. Such an application may not be denied solely because of the refusal of the applicant to disclose arrest and criminal records information that has been sealed. (Emphasis mine)

IF the school district has REFUSED to hire him for a charge that was dismissed and subsequently expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18/19....if they took it into consideration in their hiring decisions.....if they even asked him about it in a job application...if they dismissed him after finding out about those expunged charges....they would have been violating Oklahoma law and subjecting themselves to a really strong lawsuit.


Ryan Walters signed Murnan's teaching certificate renewal himself. That renewal includes a felony records check. It showed nothing because once it's expunged it is "deemed never to have occurred, and the person in interest and all criminal justice agencies may properly reply, upon an inquiry in the matter, that no such action ever occurred and that no such record exists with respect to such person."
Wow snoozed for telling them the actual law.
 
If he's going to go after him at all, he HAS to go after him for being a drag queen only....and let his mindless minions go after him for the charges that were dismissed and expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18 and 19.

He'd be violating Oklahoma law if he went after him in any way for the expunged charges. The school system would have been violating Oklahoma law if they refused to hire him, fired him, or even asked him about charges expunged pursuant to 22 OS 18 and 19.
However the guy, to his credit, did tell them the story. Just because someone interviews for a job doesn’t mean they automatically get the job.
 
That’s a lot of meaningless typing. None of it changes the fact the Superintendent was quoted as saying he knew about the charges. We are talking about an ELEMENTARY school position. It is very fair to be concerned hiring someone to be around young people each and every day that has a credible charge of child pornography.
I hope Murman finds a great job, I hope he leads a great life…but hiring him for position being around elementary aged students is neither wise..nor is it considering the needs of families and patrons of the district.

Judge Dave Allen said at the time of the charges that it was “clear from review of the pictures that it was child pornography”. The Stillwater Superintendent said at the time of the charges “we have reason to believe there is a problem”.
Lol. You keep saying “credible charge of child pornography“ while calling a statute that requires that it be deemed as if it NEVER HAPPENED “meaningless typing”

So the Superintendant knew about the charges.

The law REQUIRES that he treat and deem it as to have never happened.

OSBI….treating it as if and deeming it to have never happened by not having it on his rap sheet.

Ryan Walters? Treating it like it never happened by signing and approving his license renewal.…because it’s the law.

He’s just leaving it up to his mindless minions to ignore the law as “meaningless typing”.

You sure came through on the mindless minion score.

20 years of subsequent teaching without incident.

No other charges ever filed.

All law that says the expunged charges have to be treated as if they never happened.

Presumption of innocence….more “meaningless typing” to you, I’m sure.
 
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