OT: General CFB Thread

This NIL garbage has ruined all the fun. College football will never be the same. What I loved about college football is over and done with.. never to return. I've completely lost all interest in the game. What a bummer.
The problem is that it isn’t the NFL model, it’s the freaking NBA model being applied.
 
He got the record and then came out of the game, as was planned ahead of time. I actually think the meaningless bowl games should be a lot more about younger players and looking towards the future.

I would give seniors and most of the starters the first half and then say you guys go enjoy the experience and It’s time to turn it over to the younger guys.
So basically the 2nd half is a glorified scrimmage?
 
He got the record and then came out of the game, as was planned ahead of time. I actually think the meaningless bowl games should be a lot more about younger players and looking towards the future.

I would give seniors and most of the starters the first half and then say you guys go enjoy the experience and It’s time to turn it over to the younger guys.
So basically the 2nd half is a glorified scrimmage?
Yes. NBA level strategy-we don’t care about every game, but please pay full price, show up and be passionate fans.

College football needs saved from itself, not any outside forces.
 
Yes. NBA level strategy-we don’t care about every game, but please pay full price, show up and be passionate fans.

College football needs saved from itself, not any outside forces.
It also needs saved from ESPN. The post game show after Navy won started off w how impressive uo was for the come back. Never mind the fact they gave up 21 unanswered to fall behind and necessitate the last TD drive. Or the fact that their genius coach solidified a losing season (2 out of last 3) by taking the game away from the strength of his team and not kicking the PAT to go to overtime.

Take a look at how many people watch prime nfl matchups. KC at Buffalo drew over 31 million viewers on a non holiday Sunday afternoon. Prime college football even in a super league will not even draw 1/2 of that on a Saturday prime time. The NFL if it feels threatened will move and choke out a super college league. At the very least it will move to take oxygen.

College football is operating in an unsustainable business model. Once players get 20% of the revenues how long until they want 25%? Then 1/3rd. Then retirement or “post graduate” financial consideration. It’s coming and university athletic departments are in no way prepared.
 
Yes. NBA level strategy-we don’t care about every game, but please pay full price, show up and be passionate fans.

College football needs saved from itself, not any outside forces.
Except there’s 80 of those over the year and in college football Minimum 12 maybe 14-15?
 
It also needs saved from ESPN. The post game show after Navy won started off w how impressive uo was for the come back. Never mind the fact they gave up 21 unanswered to fall behind and necessitate the last TD drive. Or the fact that their genius coach solidified a losing season (2 out of last 3) by taking the game away from the strength of his team and not kicking the PAT to go to overtime.

Take a look at how many people watch prime nfl matchups. KC at Buffalo drew over 31 million viewers on a non holiday Sunday afternoon. Prime college football even in a super league will not even draw 1/2 of that on a Saturday prime time. The NFL if it feels threatened will move and choke out a super college league. At the very least it will move to take oxygen.

College football is operating in an unsustainable business model. Once players get 20% of the revenues how long until they want 25%? Then 1/3rd. Then retirement or “post graduate” financial consideration. It’s coming and university athletic departments are in no way prepared.
Agreed. ESPN still peddles a ton of influence, & their alignment with the SEC is now clearly a conflict of interest when it comes to them being an objective voice.

The whole argument that Bama should’ve been included is the best evidence of this yet. They’re essentially saying that only certain games matter and framing it with this Best vs. Most Deserving argument. These are the same people that also got behind the early losses are less damaging than late season losses and particularly bad losses are resume killers. Now, with Bama, neither of those matters. There’s not a single one of those talking heads that said Bama would lose to Vandy or OU, not one. But they just know Bama would be a better playoff option. They’ll cry about TCU’s drubbing by Georgia, while failing to acknowledge that TCU did actually win a game to be there. So the logic is that somehow the Michigan team that lost to TCU in an actual game would have been a better opponent for Georgia, we just know it.

You can’t have an honest intellectual discussion about strength of schedule if you won’t even mention that Bama is never going to Boise or Fort Worth or Stillwater. We’re never seeing a home and home with Georgia again. The only way those schools play any teams like us or SMU, etc… is in Atlanta or Dallas. So you’ve got talking heads who know this, but won’t acknowledge it, poking holes in teams‘schedules as though the teams can truly do something about it. It’s nonsensical.

ESPN has essentially become one of the news networks that’s tied to their base and is just clearly so one sided that you know where they’re going to fall on every point of debate.
 
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Agreed. ESPN still peddles a ton of influence, & their alignment with the SEC is now clearly a conflict of interest when it comes to them being an objective voice.

The whole argument that Bama should’ve been included is the best evidence of this yet. They’re essentially saying that only certain games matter and framing it with this Best vs. Most Deserving argument. These are the same people that also got behind the early losses are less damaging than late season losses and particularly bad losses are resume killers. Now, with Bama, neither of those matters. There’s not a single one of those talking heads that said Bama would lose to Vandy or OU, not one. But they just know Bama would be a better playoff option. They’ll cry about TCU’s drubbing by Georgia, while failing to acknowledge that TCU did actually win a game to be there. So the logic is that somehow the Michigan team that lost to TCU in an actual game would have been a better opponent for Georgia, we just know it.

You can’t have an honest intellectual discussion about strength of schedule if you won’t even mention that Bama is never going to Boise or Fort Worth or Stillwater. We’re never seeing a home and home with Georgia again. The only way those schools play any teams like us or SMU, etc… is in Atlanta or Dallas. So you’ve got talking heads who know this, but won’t acknowledge it, poking holes in teams‘schedules as though the teams can truly do something about it. It’s nonsensical.

ESPN has essentially become one of the news networks that’s tied to their base and is just clearly so one sided that you know where they’re going to fall on every point of debate.
Spot on!
 
Agreed. ESPN still peddles a ton of influence, & their alignment with the SEC is now clearly a conflict of interest when it comes to them being an objective voice.

The whole argument that Bama should’ve been included is the best evidence of this yet. They’re essentially saying that only certain games matter and framing it with this Best vs. Most Deserving argument. These are the same people that also got behind the early losses are less damaging than late season losses and particularly bad losses are resume killers. Now, with Bama, neither of those matters. There’s not a single one of those talking heads that said Bama would lose to Vandy or OU, not one. But they just know Bama would be a better playoff option. They’ll cry about TCU’s drubbing by Georgia, while failing to acknowledge that TCU did actually win a game to be there. So the logic is that somehow the Michigan team that lost to TCU in an actual game would have been a better opponent for Georgia, we just know it.

You can’t have an honest intellectual discussion about strength of schedule if you won’t even mention that Bama is never going to Boise or Fort Worth or Stillwater. We’re never seeing a home and home with Georgia again. The only way those schools play any teams like us or SMU, etc… is in Atlanta or Dallas. So you’ve got talking heads who know this, but won’t acknowledge it, poking holes in teams‘schedules as though the teams can truly do something about it. It’s nonsensical.

ESPN has essentially become one of the news networks that’s tied to their base and is just clearly so one sided that you know where they’re going to fall on every point of debate.
Ummm, uh, check the 2028 and 2029 OSU non-conference schedule. We have a home and home with Alabama.
 
Ummm, uh, check the 2028 and 2029 OSU non-conference schedule. We have a home and home with Alabama.
I stand corrected.

Still doesn’t really change the point of what I said, which is a common criticism of how they typically schedule and have for years now.

We’ll see if the games actually happen.
 
I agree with everything you guys are saying. I hate where CFB is heading, but I don't think its in any danger. Fans like us don't like it, but the ones in power are still raking it in.

Ratings are still high, stadiums are still sold out (for the blue bloods), money is still flying around.
 
It would not surprise me to see our games with Bama cancelled or moved to Dallas and Atlanta. It will depend on how we look as we get closer to those dates. If we are still bottom of the Big 12, then Bama will happily come to Stillwater. If we've recovered at all and have some momentum again, then it will be interesting to see what they do.

The thing that bugs me most about the SEC (and Big 10 I think) is the fact that they play one less conference game than the Big 12 does. And in almost every instance, the game they replace it with is a lower division opponent, you basically give your conference 15-16 wins while the Big 12 (and ACC I think) goes 8-8 in their extra conference game. Would ou have made a bowl this year if they didn't get to drop a conference team in favor of playing Albany? Would Alabama even be in the conversation for the playoff if they had to play an extra SEC game instead of playing Mercer?
 
I agree with everything you guys are saying. I hate where CFB is heading, but I don't think its in any danger. Fans like us don't like it, but the ones in power are still raking it in.

Ratings are still high, stadiums are still sold out (for the blue bloods), money is still flying around.
Where I’m coming from is the overall health of the sport and broadest fan interest. Imo we’re witnessing the biggest seismic shift in the sport since the scholarship reductions decades ago.
The changes have already relegated non P4 programs to feeder school status, with their best players being gobbled up by the haves of the sport.
Take a look at every G5 all conference team and realize that 16 of the 22 are gone next year to a better’ offer. Now do that every year & you’re in college bb territory.
The NFL thrives due to its’ parity. Look how many teams have at least made a Super Bowl in the last 25 years. Fans of teams have a realistic optimism that their team is a draft class, QB, or coach away from competing for a title. They don’t just let Dallas buy up whoever they want with no compensation for the other team.
You’re absolutely right in saying that the sport isn’t going away and the money’s flowing. The bluebloods are always going to fill their stadiums, the games will draw good ratings and hardcore alums will show up.
The thing that concerns me is that at some point there’s a crest to the wave of interest and thus money. It may seem limitless right now, but I don’t think it is at all. Making changes that effectively shut schools out of even the perception that their team can compete for titles is going to cost you fans.
We watch live sports and they draw ratings because of the competition and unknown outcomes. I think that making the sport all about the biggest budgets hits at the very notion of competing and rigs the system for certain teams that’s the antithesis of what the NFL gets right.
 
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