Changes Need to be Made

[andylicious]

It’s an awful situation if Gundy wants to be an ass about this. The fact that no personnel has been booted does not bode well for how the behind the scenes is going.

Gundy? Azz? Aren’t those synonyms?

 

[mugatu]

It’s an awful situation if Gundy wants to be an ass about this. The fact that no personnel has been booted does not bode well for how the behind the scenes is going.

What's his move if the AD fires half his staff (or tells him to fire them) and has him replace them? The university has to pay the buyouts of the staff removed but thats not Gundy.

If Gundy gets pissed and wants to leave he's gotta pay the school or negotiate his own buyout.

 

[CptnQuirk]

Gundy’s buyout has the Athletic Department over a barrel. This is one of those “it’s the bank’s problem” situations. I don’t think Weiberg has the stones to make that gamble.

Since Gundy isn’t going anywhere, what will he do if Weiberg fires all the coaches that HE thinks need to be fired. Gundy can decide who to hire but those have to be approved by higher ups. Gundy will be over a barrel at that point. He was forced to hire an OC for 2010 and he chose Holgorsen but he had to be approved.

 

[007Poke]

Gundy is still a university employee, if Weiberg and Shrum don’t do their job the regents will

Aren't the regents the one that approved Gundy's bird nest on the ground contract? If correct don't see them doing much in terms of correcting the King.

 

[CptnQuirk]

It’s an awful situation if Gundy wants to be an ass about this. The fact that no personnel has been booted does not bode well for how the behind the scenes is going.

You don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. The people being fired may be given the opportunity to find jobs elsewhere before any announcement is made.

 

[TXPoke]

We already have this, this is what Kenyatta Wright is doing.

Luck will be the top dog at Stanford football. Kenyatta is still reporting to Gundy from what I can tell, unless you inform me otherwise.

All I’m trying to illustrate is that Stanford’s move is a complete departure from the traditional football coaching staff hierarchy. And I believe a move like this is the only way we find a competitive edge in the cfb landscape going forward.

For the record, I cannot comment on Kenyatta’s performance. He could be doing a great job for all I know. I am in no way bringing those folks into question.

 

[andylicious]

Aren't the regents the one that approved Gundy's bird nest on the ground contract? If correct don't see them doing much in terms of correcting the King.

it will be interesting

 

[Osucowboys344]

Yep, Sunday after church is always the best time to fire someone...for chrissake!!!

Why not

 

[VaPoke]

I hope that in the future, the administration can be smarter with their contracts. Future agreements need to offer a competitive base with a focus on incentives/achievements to boost compensation to the next level. No rolling renewals or 10 year deals. It needs to go both ways. I don't care if Saban showed up on our doorstep, still applies. If OSU is so short on funds as so many people imply, then we need to be more responsible in this area. More venting...Like Boynton earned that last extension?

 

[007Poke]

I hope that in the future, the administration can be smarter with their contracts. Future agreements need to offer a competitive base with a focus on incentives/achievements to boost compensation to the next level. No rolling renewals or 10 year deals. It needs to go both ways. I don't care if Saban showed up on our doorstep, still applies. If OSU is so short on funds as so many people imply, then we need to be more responsible in this area. More venting...Like Boynton earned that last extension?

Agree wholeheartedly but it will have to happen before I will believe it due to past history.

 

[Poke Skywalker]

You don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. The people being fired may be given the opportunity to find jobs elsewhere before any announcement is made.

Why? To pretend they aren’t being fired for a terrible job? If we are doing that let’s just move to D2 because we are not a serious football program. These coordinators and assistants are some of the higher paid in the country with multi year contracts, so can handle the other side of the business when things don’t go well.

We need to do what is best for OSU and make known to existing players, recruits, portal guys, potential replacement coaches, donors, etc that changes are in progress and 3-9 seasons are not acceptable. If you want to be a big time program, act like one. If you want to be considered on the level of blue bloods, act like a blue blood. Like I said earlier, other programs, some our competitors, are moving aggressively and making it known while the appearance for us after dropping a 3-9 season and 52-0 whipping Friday is we’re staying status quo.

 

[andylicious]

Why? To pretend they aren’t being fired for a terrible job? If we are doing that let’s just move to D2 because we are not a serious football program. These coordinators and assistants are some of the higher paid in the country with multi year contracts, so can handle the other side of the business when things don’t go well.

We need to do what is best for OSU and make known to existing players, recruits, portal guys, potential replacement coaches, donors, etc that changes are in progress and 3-9 seasons are not acceptable. If you want to be a big time program, act like one. If you want to be considered on the level of blue bloods, act like a blue blood. Like I said earlier, other programs, some our competitors, are moving aggressively and making it known while the appearance for us after dropping a 3-9 season and 52-0 whipping Friday is we’re staying status quo.

I’m afraid that I will have to quote Traitor “loyalty has no place in college football”. I hate it, but it’s very true if you want to win.

 

[CptnQuirk]

Why? To pretend they aren’t being fired for a terrible job? If we are doing that let’s just move to D2 because we are not a serious football program. These coordinators and assistants are some of the higher paid in the country with multi year contracts, so can handle the other side of the business when things don’t go well.

We need to do what is best for OSU and make known to existing players, recruits, portal guys, potential replacement coaches, donors, etc that changes are in progress and 3-9 seasons are not acceptable. If you want to be a big time program, act like one. If you want to be considered on the level of blue bloods, act like a blue blood. Like I said earlier, other programs, some our competitors, are moving aggressively and making it known while the appearance for us after dropping a 3-9 season and 52-0 whipping Friday is we’re staying status quo.

Gundy has done this before. I wouldn’t be surprised if he waits until the the coaches conference which is usually early February to make replacements known. I’d prefer to know yesterday but it’s not my responsibility.

 

[H2Orange]

Texas Tech fired two of their defensive assistants today including the DC, and they won 8 games.

 

[PokeBloke]

Recruiting is insane nationwide. Coaches don’t even know who they have. Relationships are breaking daily even by loyalist players. If it wasn’t for extreme money I would never want to coach. It’s asenine. It’s gonna be like an AAU circuit yearly but now in football

 

[DCowboy]

Dunn should have been fired 2 years ago. I don't understand the hold up

 

[Spider Rico]

Gundy has done this before. I wouldn’t be surprised if he waits until the the coaches conference which is usually early February to make replacements known. I’d prefer to know yesterday but it’s not my responsibility.

If this happens, I don't think it will, but if it does, we are in even weaker hands than I imagined.

 

[CptnQuirk]

Dunn should have been fired 2 years ago. I don't understand the hold up

He should never have been promoted to OC. He was good at his old position.

 

[IronCodePoke]

He should never have been promoted to OC. He was good at his old position.

He was leaving, We either had to promote him or let him go. I wanted to just let him go, but I didn't think it was the worst decision in the world to give him a shot. It didn't work out and he should have been fired or demoted a while ago. Gundy gonna Gundy.

 

[Osucowboys344]

We have 0 and I mean absolutely no balls. We are not serious about the football program. We are letting gundy dictate this so we won’t have any good options. This is BS.