Trump 2024 Run Thread

have you read the indictment?
Why would I waste my time doing that? They both had documents they aren't supposed to have outside of government control. They should both have charges filed.

Trump undoubetly trumped it up and lied, obstructed and did all sorts of illegal things. When Barr says it's bad that's enough to know Trump is screwed, or at least we can only hope such is the case.

Biden should be getting his Burisma problems rolling along soon enough.

Let's move on from the crooked octoes and get someone new to bitch about. The last eight years are enough to turn a buzzard into a vegetarian, its rotten and we need to prove that no one is above the law.

Lock them up! Lock them up!
 
these poll results say a lot about trump supporters (or gop voters in general)...interesting, and some sad...
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on this last one, they could choose more than one response...
 
How do people still defend this guy? Wasn't he caught on tape admitting he didn't declassify, saying he knew he couldn't declassify any longer, admitting he knew what he was doing was illegal and still bragging about doing it anyway.

I mean...that is hard evidence when the person you are going after has a full confession on tape.

Yeah..>Witch hunt.
 
How do people still defend this guy? Wasn't he caught on tape admitting he didn't declassify, saying he knew he couldn't declassify any longer, admitting he knew what he was doing was illegal and still bragging about doing it anyway.

I mean...that is hard evidence when the person you are going after has a full confession on tape.

Yeah..>Witch hunt.
I don't see how anyone can trust him. He lies about anything and everything. Not like "all politicians lie" but deeper, maybe pathological.


"Governor Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma, who I didn’t know very well, called me before his last election to say he was in BIG trouble and very much needed my Endorsement," Trump wrote. "I LOVE Oklahoma & won 77 out of 77 Counties, something that never happened before. Ronald Reagan was next with 56. Anyway, I gave him my endorsement, he immediately went way up, and won. Now, despite the fact that DeSanctimonious is losing to Biden, & me, Stitt just endorsed him. Wow! He disliked 'the Indians' & my great Senate pick!"


Records show that Mitt Romney won all 77 counties during the 2012 presidential election. The last Democrat to win a county in Oklahoma during a presidential election was Al Gore in 2000.
 
I don't see how anyone can trust him. He lies about anything and everything. Not like "all politicians lie" but deeper, maybe pathological.

PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE WORD.

HOW.??? I just don't get it. It is a freaking Cult at a min VERY much like a Cult Mentality. That is the only explanation that fits within our current realm of things like this.

The Entire Stitt story is just complete fiction and his supports just lap it up as 100% concrete truth AND think that only HE.....is the ONLY person in the world that won't lie to them.
 
PEOPLE STILL BELIEVE EVERY SINGLE WORD.

HOW.??? I just don't get it. It is a freaking Cult at a min VERY much like a Cult Mentality. That is the only explanation that fits within our current realm of things like this.

The Entire Stitt story is just complete fiction and his supports just lap it up as 100% concrete truth AND think that only HE.....is the ONLY person in the world that won't lie to them.

when I think of trump fans can’t help but think of this scene

Mel Brooks Morons GIF
 
Lies that are really easy to contradict. I just don't get how anyone, anywhere, thinks "hey I like this guy, let's give him the nuclear codes."
Honestly, this is EXACTLY the guy they want to have nuclear codes, because for most of them, he's become their god (literally). They worship him. They fear him. They admire him. They are in awe of him. All his ways are perfect. They place their trust in him. His ways are higher than their ways. How can they reject what has become their deity? At this point, he can do anything and they'll still worship him.

The saddest part is that many of these Trump worshipers claim to be Christians. They are deceived.
 
Honestly, this is EXACTLY the guy they want to have nuclear codes, because for most of them, he's become their god (literally). They worship him. They fear him. They admire him. They are in awe of him. All his ways are perfect. They place their trust in him. His ways are higher than their ways. How can they reject what has become their deity? At this point, he can do anything and they'll still worship him.

The saddest part is that many of these Trump worshipers claim to be Christians. They are deceived.
never forget this statement from 2016: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
 
Celente and Judge Nap in video, both not coming from the left, feel that Trump's greatest enemy is himself. The trial may be over as soon as 6 months, if Trump and his legal team don't try to delay it.

Celente wants Judge Nap to be RFK jr.'s vice presidential running mate. As a Democrat, it's unsettling to me that RFK jr.'s support is coming from these two off the wall characters as well as from far-right Christian extremists and conspiracy nuts.

 
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What Trump's GOP challengers have to say about the Trump Indictment

Mike Pence​

Mike Pence

Former Vice President Mike Pence speaking in Urbandale, Iowa, in March. (Charlie Neibergall/AP)
In a Tuesday interview with the Wall Street Journal editorial board, former Vice President Mike Pence addressed the felony charges against Trump, who was arraigned in Miami that same day.

“Having read the indictment, these are very serious allegations," Pence said. "And I can’t defend what is alleged. But the president is entitled to his day in court, he’s entitled to bring a defense, and I want to reserve judgment until he has the opportunity to respond.”

Pence also specified why he thought the 37 criminal counts outlined in the indictment should not be dismissed by Republican critics of the Justice Department.

“Even the inadvertent release of that kind of information could compromise our national security and the safety of our armed forces,” he said. “And, frankly, having two members of our immediate family serving in the armed forces of the United States, I will never diminish the importance of protecting our nation’s secrets.”

Nikki Haley​

Presidential hopeful Nikki Haley

Former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley campaigning in Stanton, Texas, June 8. (Suzanne Cordeiro/AFP via Getty Images)
Those sentiments were echoed in the recent response of another Republican looking to become president: former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley.

“If this indictment is true, if what it says is actually the case, President Trump was incredibly reckless with our national security,” Haley, a former U.N. ambassador, said during a Monday interview with Fox News. “This puts all of our military members in danger.”

Tim Scott​

Sen. Tim Scott

Sen. Tim Scott at a recent town hall in Pella, Iowa. (Charlie Neibergall/AP)
While taking pains at a Monday campaign rally to portray President Biden's Justice Department as "targeting and hunting Republicans," Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina also made clear that the indictment against Trump represented a “serious case with serious allegations,” according to the Post and Courier newspaper.

Chris Christie​

Chris Christie

Former New Jersey governor and current Trump nemesis Chris Christie fields a question at a campaign event in Manchester, N.H., on June 6. (Charles Krupa/AP)
Perhaps Trump's most outspoken critic in the GOP presidential field, former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, said the conduct outlined in the indictment was “inexcusable.”

“Everybody, whether you like Donald Trump or you don’t like Donald Trump, this conduct is inexcusable, in my opinion, for somebody who wants to be president of the United States,” Christie said Monday during a CNN town hall event. “He’s saying, 'I’m more important than the country.' And he is now going to put this country through this when we didn’t have to go through it.”

Ron DeSantis​

Ron DeSantis

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis at the North Carolina Republican convention on Friday. (Chuck Burton/AP)
While Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has largely focused on the injustice of the indictment, which he described as an example of “the weaponization of federal law enforcement," he also took the opportunity on Friday to criticize Trump while invoking his own military service.

“As a naval officer, if I would have taken classified [documents] to my apartment, I would have been court-martialed in a New York minute,” DeSantis said during a speech at the North Carolina Republican convention.

Asa Hutchinson​

Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson reacts to receiving a campaign contribution after formally announcing his Republican campaign for president, Wednesday, April 26, 2023, in Bentonville, Ark.. (AP Photo/Sue Ogrocki)

Former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson formally announces his Republican campaign for president, Wednesday, April 26, 2023, in Bentonville, Ark.. (AP Photo/Sue Ogrocki)
In a statement issued last week, former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson said Trump should "end his campaign" based on the latest criminal indictment made against him.

“These are serious allegations that are relevant in this campaign and should not be dismissed lightly,” he said in an interview on Saturday with CNN.

On Wednesday, Hutchinson went even further.

“I’m not going to vote for him if he’s a convicted felon,” he told Politico. “If he’s convicted of espionage, I’m not going to vote for him.”
 
After indictment, majority want Trump to drop out, but he's getting stronger with GOP NPR

Given his indictment by a federal grand jury in Florida, a majority of Americans say they think former President Donald Trump should drop out of the race for president, according to a new NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist survey.

But the opposite is true of Republicans, most of whom not only like him but want him to be president again.

...lots of graphs and stats in story...this was one of my favorites (made me chuckle):

  • He's best liked by whites who didn't graduate from college (85%), those who make less than $50,000 a year (83%), those who live in small towns (83%), GOP and GOP-leaning women (81%) and white evangelical Christians (81%).
 
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