Trump 2024 Run Thread

[Bowers3]

I used to regularly listen to Rogan. He would have Alex Jones on but would make fun of him and reiterate time and again that his podcast shouldn’t be your news source. He’s gone too crazy for me now. It’s literally for dumb people now. No offense to anyone here.

 

[steross]

So, this is old and surprised to see it come up LOL. I mean WTF?

Either way the words unfiltered, unedited, and unmanaged were clearly in regard to the interview style itself not the choices of interviewees of one source. There are 100s of established independent blogs out there. I'm sure Zelenski has reached out to many of them.

WTF? It was oct 26th and you and someone else were debating whether this was media or entertainment or whatever then I saw this. You liked a donny post earlier where he was complaining at me about Andrew Yang from 2019.

So you are Ok with him talking bad about him then refusing to interview him? That is weak sauce in my opinion.

That does not meet my criteria for "media." That is a dude pushing an agenda with a podcast. I don't hate him and will listen if I am interested. But, he is showing that he is entertainment, not media. This is filtering.

 

[cowboyinexile]

I used to regularly listen to Rogan. He would have Alex Jones on but would make fun of him and reiterate time and again that his podcast shouldn’t be your news source. He’s gone too crazy for me now. It’s literally for dumb people now. No offense to anyone here.

Admit it. You mean a little offense

 

[Stillwaterman]

WTF? It was oct 26th and you and someone else were debating whether this was media or entertainment or whatever then I saw this. You liked a donny post earlier where he was complaining at me about Andrew Yang from 2019.

So you are Ok with him talking bad about him then refusing to interview him? That is weak sauce in my opinion.

That does not meet my criteria for "media." That is a dude pushing an agenda with a podcast. I don't hate him and will listen if I am interested. But, he is showing that he is entertainment, not media. This is filtering.

A. The argument was about independent media. Joe Rogan is a prime example and the point I was pushing is that he offers sources that wouldn't have an open unedited platform just that.

B. I'm not going back in time to check but I believe that debate was kicked of by your posting of a duo of interviewees on Rogan speaking about the medical industry. I listened to it and found it informative. More so than anything I would get from traditional media. Folks were saying they wouldn't listened because of Rogan. I thought that was silly and was calling it as such.

C. Speaking of Yang, I also got the most out of him with a Rogan interview. Same with Bernie. Same with many. It's a good thing.

D. Specifically with Rogan, he hasn't entertained a lot of foreign dignitaries. I can't name any, but I don't listen to all of them. That type of interview just doesn't seem in his lane.

E. Yes, his podcast and any other is never going to be sole source media.

 

[Bowers3]

Admit it. You mean a little offense

Well I just mean not everyone who listens is dumb but it’s definitely geared toward the ignorant. I listened when he had physicists, archaeologists, A list celebrities, and all around great guests. It was just two people getting high and talking. But he’s too into the political arena now and seems like he believes and even pushes the bullshit conspiracies and especially from just one side now.

And I still follow him on YouTube and will watch clips if I like the guest. I think it’s a good podcast. He just got a little too loony for me.

 

[Stillwaterman]

I used to regularly listen to Rogan. He would have Alex Jones on but would make fun of him and reiterate time and again that his podcast shouldn’t be your news source. He’s gone too crazy for me now. It’s literally for dumb people now. No offense to anyone here.

None taken.

 

[Bowers3]

None taken.

Well too bad because I meant offense to you just not anyone else!

 

[cowboyinexile]

A. The argument was about independent media. Joe Rogan is a prime example and the point I was pushing is that he offers sources that wouldn't have an open unedited platform just that.

B. I'm not going back in time to check but I believe that debate was kicked of by your posting of a duo of interviewees on Rogan speaking about the medical industry. I listened to it and found it informative. More so than anything I would get from traditional media. Folks were saying they wouldn't listened because of Rogan. I thought that was silly and was calling it as such.

C. Speaking of Yang, I also got the most out of him with a Rogan interview. Same with Bernie. Same with many. It's a good thing.

D. Specifically with Rogan, he hasn't entertained a lot of foreign dignitaries. I can't name any, but I don't listen to all of them. That type of interview just doesn't seem in his lane.

E. Yes, his podcast and any other is never going to be sole source media.

It wasn't Rogan that I said I wouldn't listen to. It was Tucker Carlson. I don't necessarily have a problem with Rogan but Carlson takes being edgy for money almost to the point of treason. They are all in it for self promotion and maximizing how much they can make off their brand but imo there is a huge difference between the two.

I think I ended up listening to part of the Rogan podcast @steross posted. It was something like 2 hrs long though and I'm not going to dedicate that much time to anything that isn't entertaining to me (the past 3 months of college football excluded)

 

[Stillwaterman]

It wasn't Rogan that I said I wouldn't listen to. It was Tucker Carlson. I don't necessarily have a problem with Rogan but Carlson takes being edgy for money almost to the point of treason. They are all in it for self promotion and maximizing how much they can make off their brand but imo there is a huge difference between the two.

I think I ended up listening to part of the Rogan podcast @steross posted. It was something like 2 hrs long though and I'm not going to dedicate that much time to anything that isn't entertaining to me (the past 3 months of college football excluded)

Carlson is a nut.

 

[steross]

A. The argument was about independent media. Joe Rogan is a prime example and the point I was pushing is that he offers sources that wouldn't have an open unedited platform just that.

B. I'm not going back in time to check but I believe that debate was kicked of by your posting of a duo of interviewees on Rogan speaking about the medical industry. I listened to it and found it informative. More so than anything I would get from traditional media. Folks were saying they wouldn't listened because of Rogan. I thought that was silly and was calling it as such.

C. Speaking of Yang, I also got the most out of him with a Rogan interview. Same with Bernie. Same with many. It's a good thing.

D. Specifically with Rogan, he hasn't entertained a lot of foreign dignitaries. I can't name any, but I don't listen to all of them. That type of interview just doesn't seem in his lane.

E. Yes, his podcast and any other is never going to be sole source media.

All true except D. I am the one that posted the medical podcast.

I still think it is incredibly poor form to have a show, badmouth a world leader on the show to the point that he said "f^9# Zelensky" then deny him the chance to discuss it. If you discussed it to that level, it is your lane.

 

[Stillwaterman]

All true except D. I am the one that posted the medical podcast.

I still think it is incredibly poor form to have a show, badmouth a world leader on the show to the point that he said "f^9# Zelensky" then deny him the chance to discuss it. If you discussed it to that level, it is your lane.

Might as well get the full text in.

https://dailycaller.com/2024/11/22/joe-rogan-unloads-zelensky-military-leading-world-war-three-united-states/

“What I don’t feel safer [about] is right now they’re launching missiles into Russia,” Rogan responded. “How are you allowed to do that when you’re on the way out? Like the people don’t want you to be there anymore. This should be some sort of a pause for significant actions that could potentially start World War III. Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from a dying former president. The whole thing is nuts.”

Rogan went on to read a headline claiming Zelensky said Russian President Vladmir Putin is “terrified” before calling out the world leader, highlighting how intercontinental ballistic missiles can carry nuclear weapons. (RELATED: US Intelligence Issues Warning To Defense Industries About Russian Threats)


“Zelensky says Putin is terrified. F++k you, man. F++k you people. You f++king people are about to start World War III,” Rogan said. “F++king insanity because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. This didn’t, but if it does the whole world changes and it changes because the military industrial complex and it changes because of the money that’s going to Ukraine. It changes because the outgoing president, or whoever the f++k is actually running the country, has decided to do something f++king insane.”

Possibly @Donnyboy is Joe Rogan???

 

[PF5]

 

[Stillwaterman]

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[cowboyinexile]

Might as well get the full text in.

https://dailycaller.com/2024/11/22/joe-rogan-unloads-zelensky-military-leading-world-war-three-united-states/

“What I don’t feel safer [about] is right now they’re launching missiles into Russia,” Rogan responded. “How are you allowed to do that when you’re on the way out? Like the people don’t want you to be there anymore. This should be some sort of a pause for significant actions that could potentially start World War III. Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from a dying former president. The whole thing is nuts.”

Rogan went on to read a headline claiming Zelensky said Russian President Vladmir Putin is “terrified” before calling out the world leader, highlighting how intercontinental ballistic missiles can carry nuclear weapons. (RELATED: US Intelligence Issues Warning To Defense Industries About Russian Threats)


“Zelensky says Putin is terrified. F++k you, man. F++k you people. You f++king people are about to start World War III,” Rogan said. “F++king insanity because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. This didn’t, but if it does the whole world changes and it changes because the military industrial complex and it changes because of the money that’s going to Ukraine. It changes because the outgoing president, or whoever the f++k is actually running the country, has decided to do something f++king insane.”

Possibly @Donnyboy is Joe Rogan???

Yeah. I'm starting to think @Donnyboy and Joe Rogan have the same pot dealer.

 

[mugatu]

Might as well get the full text in.

https://dailycaller.com/2024/11/22/joe-rogan-unloads-zelensky-military-leading-world-war-three-united-states/

“What I don’t feel safer [about] is right now they’re launching missiles into Russia,” Rogan responded. “How are you allowed to do that when you’re on the way out? Like the people don’t want you to be there anymore. This should be some sort of a pause for significant actions that could potentially start World War III. Maybe that would be a good thing that we would like to avoid from a dying former president. The whole thing is nuts.”

Rogan went on to read a headline claiming Zelensky said Russian President Vladmir Putin is “terrified” before calling out the world leader, highlighting how intercontinental ballistic missiles can carry nuclear weapons. (RELATED: US Intelligence Issues Warning To Defense Industries About Russian Threats)


“Zelensky says Putin is terrified. F++k you, man. F++k you people. You f++king people are about to start World War III,” Rogan said. “F++king insanity because those intercontinental ballistic missiles can have nukes on them. This didn’t, but if it does the whole world changes and it changes because the military industrial complex and it changes because of the money that’s going to Ukraine. It changes because the outgoing president, or whoever the f++k is actually running the country, has decided to do something f++king insane.”

Possibly @Donnyboy is Joe Rogan???

RUSSIA EFFING INVADED a neighboring country. Every lost life, every dollar spent, every negative impact is because of RUSSIA. The US's position is to defend the sovereignty of friendy and democratic countries and to support international laws and norms. Ukraine has every right to defend its of within the internationally recognized laws of armed conflict. The US should have no say in how those weapons are used as long as they are not used to commit war crimes.

Come on people. I'm going to have a freaking aneurism reading this much stupidity.


I need to go back to not looking at this thread... for my own mental health.

 

[PF5]

Trump appears to threaten Hamas with 'all hell to pay' over hostages

The US president-elect vows a response if captives in Gaza are not released by the time he returns to the White House.

www.bbc.com

US President-elect Donald Trump has issued an apparent warning to Hamas, threatening "all hell to pay" if hostages held by the Palestinian group in Gaza are not released by the time he returns to the White House on 20 January.
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Without mentioning Hamas by name, Trump posted online the same day: "Those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in the long and storied history of the United States of America."
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He has positioned himself as a staunch supporter of Israel during its campaign in Gaza, but has urged the American ally to end its military operation.

Israel launched a campaign to destroy Hamas in response to the group's unprecedented attack on southern Israel in 2023, in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 others were taken hostage.

More than 44,000 people have been killed in Gaza since then, according to the territory's Hamas-run health ministry. Tens of thousands of others have been injured and much of the Palestinian enclave is in ruins.
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“Everybody is talking about the hostages who are being held so violently, inhumanely, and against the will of the entire world, in the Middle East - but it’s all talk, and no action!" he wrote.

He went on to say: "If the hostages are not released prior to January 20, 2025, the date that I proudly assume office as President of the United States, there will be ALL HELL TO PAY in the Middle East, and for those in charge who perpetrated these atrocities against humanity."
His post continued: "Those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in the long and storied History of the United States of America. RELEASE THE HOSTAGES NOW!"
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During the recent election campaign, Trump presented himself as the anti-war candidate, suggesting for example that he could end the conflict in Ukraine "in a day".

A ceasefire in a linked conflict in Lebanon - between Israel and Hezbollah, a group allied to Hamas - came into effect last week, but has been threatened by fire from both sides.

After the Lebanon ceasefire was agreed, the US said it would make another push with regional powers for a ceasefire in Gaza, involving the release of hostages and the removal of Hamas from power.

Updating reporters on Monday, White House National Security Council spokesman John Kirby told reporters: "The main stumbling block continues to be Hamas."

 

[mugatu]

Trump calls for immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and says a US withdrawal from NATO is possible

In a post on his Truth Social platform, Trump claimed that Moscow and Kyiv have both lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers in a war that “should never have started.”

apnews.com

After meeting with heads of state for Ukraine and France, Trump calls for immediate end to Ukraine conflict and states that the US may leave NATO.

First part not a surprise, second is counter to law passed a couple years ago to require congressional approval - concerned that the law may be unconstitutional since it would take foreign treaty powers from the president.

 

[Vakarian74]

Trump calls for immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and says a US withdrawal from NATO is possible

In a post on his Truth Social platform, Trump claimed that Moscow and Kyiv have both lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers in a war that “should never have started.”

apnews.com

After meeting with heads of state for Ukraine and France, Trump calls for immediate end to Ukraine conflict and states that the US may leave NATO.

First part not a surprise, second is counter to law passed a couple years ago to require congressional approval - concerned that the law may be unconstitutional since it would take foreign treaty powers from the president.

 

[PF5]

Trump says he can't guarantee tariffs won't raise US prices and won't rule out revenge prosecutions

Donald Trump says he can’t guarantee his promised tariffs on key U.S. foreign trade partners won’t raise prices for American consumers.

apnews.com

 

[PF5]

^of course his 'people' said as much before the election...so maybe some are OK with prices going up...*note*: billionaires and millionaires can still buy everyday items, middle and lower class not so much, but hey, let's protect the wealthy!! SMH....