OT: General CFB Thread

If you're asking me if Howard or Johnson is the better QB currently, the answer is obviously Howard.

That said, it should be equally obvious to everyone that Johnson has the highest ceiling. He just needs to be developed, as most young QBs do. Whether or not Kleiman has the coaching staff to do it is the real question. If I'm Kleiman, however, and I am given the choice to ride with Howard again and lose my talented young freshman, or start the freshman knowing Howard leaves, I'm starting the freshman.
Well, that's just like your opinion, man. I think Howard is a much better QB than Sunshine. Bigger. Smarter. Better arm. Much better leader. Can run the ball and not scared to take a hit.
At this point Johnson is an overhyped player til he proves otherwise. And he was a sophomore this year. He's a junior next year sho he better shit or get off the pot.

With Howard at QB this year they probably win the Big 12.
 
No, saying what he did with Martinez over Howard and then pushing Howard away In favor of Johnson was stupid. Should have given Johnson his 4 games last year and then the package they used last year for Johnson this year. I think they would have won big 12 and had a shot at winning a couple playoff games. Seemed like Howard’s path was similar to Weeden but got pushed out once Johnson arrived. Yes, needs developed and a few extra pounds of muscle. Wasted a year to develop by playing more than 4 games as a freshman. Was interesting after they lost a couple games many fans wanted to run Johnson out of town in his puke colored corvette! The thing about Johnson is he is a gamer and athletic enough I think he will be very good next year.
I agree with the great majority of this except I don't think Johnson is a gamer. Once they get down a couple of scores it's pretty much over because he can't pass for sh*t. And he's not willing to run into traffic to get that extra yard or two. IMO he's a wide out playing QB.
The best QB in the Big 12 is a very easy choice. Sam Leavitt at Arizona State.
 
I agree with the great majority of this except I don't think Johnson is a gamer. Once they get down a couple of scores it's pretty much over because he can't pass for sh*t. And he's not willing to run into traffic to get that extra yard or two. IMO he's a wide out playing QB.
The best QB in the Big 12 is a very easy choice. Sam Leavitt at Arizona State.
His problem is he lost a year when he should have been learning and getting stronger. Hope he left his “gamer” in HS or he could dominate the next couple years. Saw him too many times take over a game with the athleticism. College is different than HS and he needed the extra year to grow and learn IMO. He lost that year and may never recover. Will see in time.
 
ACC evaluating whether to have the 2nd & 3rd place teams play in their CCG, due to SMU’s situation this year.

Should the Big 12 consider the same?
 
So how is it an CCG if the #1 seed doesn't play? Who is declared the conf champ?
Regular season winner is the conference champion. 2nd and 3rd finishers play in the Conference Consolation Game.

It's stupid. So is the way we determine the playoff field. You could have the best ideas to try to mitigate the symptoms, but it won't solve the real problem- the stupidity of the system.
 
Regular season winner is the conference champion. 2nd and 3rd finishers play in the Conference Consolation Game.

It's stupid. So is the way we determine the playoff field. You could have the best ideas to try to mitigate the symptoms, but it won't solve the real problem- the stupidity of the system.
Well we already won it in 21 but nope. Do over against a team we already beat
 
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