Yeah. Awful non call
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Yeah. Awful non call
Poke Skywalker
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That 4th down was ballgame for ASU. They gambled, heavy blitz and Texas picked up everyone of them. Great showing there though for ASU.
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Texas has more money than the football gods
DiamondDog
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ASU fans would’ve had the most epic sec chant if they had pulled it off
PokeJ
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Aren’t you supposed to throw trash on the field until they reverse the call?
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inappropriate.name
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Ore’gone’ and should get on the plane home at halftime.
Running clock for the second half?
Ryan day figuring out life today?
AgronomyPoke
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That’s what I told my son, looks like they don’t belong but certainly don’t hear anyone stating the obvious.I don’t know guys, should Oregon be in the field?
DiamondDog
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I think Ohio state is winning it all
They are the same as they have been for the last 10 years.
The best team in the country.
Except for Michigan the last 3 or 4
Actually, Michigan right now is still the best team in the country
Stilly2OMAOKC
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Best team NIL money can buy apparently
Coco Cincinnati
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Unfortunately next season this will all be forgotten and the SEC will once again have 6 teams in the preseason top 15 while the big 12 will be lucky to have 1 or 2.
You’re right, but I’m at least enjoying hearing more national voices pointing out how biased the coverage has been, particularly when it comes to Bama.
https://www.outkick.com/sports/kirk-herbstreit-espn-still-dont-get
Herbstreit continues his ascent on my sh!t list.. The BS narrative comment from him is really kinda hard to believe he’s even saying.
When you boil his point of view down it’s this: The SEC is so tough that a team like Indiana should have to have a record THREE games better than the 3 loss SEC team.
Herbstreit continues his ascent on my sh!t list.
. The BS narrative comment from him is really kinda hard to believe he’s even saying.When you boil his point of view down it’s this: The SEC is so tough that a team like Indiana should have to have a record THREE games better than the 3 loss SEC team.
Regarding targeting, pretty clear fans have no idea what it actually is. The people we were watching with were sure Texas had targeted, but ASU hadn’t earlier in the game.
“'Targeting' means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball.”
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
Helmet to helmet contact IS NOT a prerequisite in anyway shape or form. (ASU non call)
Helmet to helmet IS NOT an automatic call either (Texas non call)
Using the crown of the helmet is an automatic call but must be reviewed for one or more of the actual qualifiers.
My assumption is in both cases they ruled that neither play qualified for Note 1, “no additional force outside of what was needed to make a legal tackle, block or playing the ball” occurred.
But even reading the entire rule and associated notes, neither player should have received a flag or ejection.
Full rule - https://www.secsports.com/what-is-targeting-rule
“'Targeting' means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball.”
ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:
- Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
- A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
- Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
- Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet
Helmet to helmet contact IS NOT a prerequisite in anyway shape or form. (ASU non call)
Helmet to helmet IS NOT an automatic call either (Texas non call)
Using the crown of the helmet is an automatic call but must be reviewed for one or more of the actual qualifiers.
My assumption is in both cases they ruled that neither play qualified for Note 1, “no additional force outside of what was needed to make a legal tackle, block or playing the ball” occurred.
But even reading the entire rule and associated notes, neither player should have received a flag or ejection.
Full rule - https://www.secsports.com/what-is-targeting-rule
EdmondPoke
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"Using the crown of the helmet is an automatic call but must be reviewed for one or more of the actual qualifiers."
Qualifier: "Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area"
This meets both the automatic flag criteria, and the required qualifier to confirm the call. This was a missed targeting call.
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