Kanion Williams Comments

eh I wouldn’t say I have convicted him of being racist. I believe he can be an a—hole that says stuff he shouldn’t and that has been shown several times. And it isn’t out of the realm of possibility that some of the stuff he says can be taken as racist

I do have a problem with people totally dismissing players accounts.
Fair enough.

None of us know what, if anything, was said.

I’m confident the truth will out eventually.
 
So you believe someone that is on the margins and wants to play more is going to run their head at their coach? 98% of the players in football aren’t going to do that. Guys like Gundy know it, why don’t you?
If they're not weak.

But what about the hundreds, or as someone else pointed out, 3000 other players in the last 20 years?

So you're going to believe 3 guys who played a combined 30 snaps over the other 3000 players? You're hoping it's true, which is telling.

If I'm wrong and others come forward, so be it, now is the time. Guess we'll see.
 
Talk about a word salad.

I haven’t taken any position except neither one of you is willing to let this play out.

Verbal has seemingly convicted him. You’ve clearly acquitted him.

Keep yapping chihuahua.

It amuses me.
Thank god for you that you practice in the metropolis of Kingfisher.

English clearly isn’t your strongsuit…or it’s the living in your head thing.

Thoughts and prayers brother.🙏🏻
 
I think the issue isn't whether Gundy is a racist, although Kanion wants it to be.

The issue is that he, especially in the last 5 years, says and does stupid things repeatedly.

I don't know if he said what Williams said he did, but it sure wouldn't shock me. If someone said Venables or Campbell from ISU said it, I would dismiss it immediately. Gundy...I could see it.

The OAN shirt was an overreaction by Chuba, but he also presented it like it was the last straw with Gundy. Justice Hill also indicated he was sick of it.

Gundy had to hold a team meeting to explain himself. There's more than just a t-shirt there. It was clearly more than a one time misunderstanding.

Gundy has become erratic with his behavior and the only thing you can be sure of is his "don't give a F" attitude on the sideline.

This particular issue may end up being nothing, but it doesn't mean there isn't a giant shit show that the 8 million dollar man is responsible for.
 
Thank god for you that you practice in the metropolis of Kingfisher.

English clearly isn’t your strongsuit…or it’s the living in your head thing.

Thoughts and prayers brother.🙏🏻

Keep yapping…..

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If they're not weak.

But what about the hundreds, or as someone else pointed out, 3000 other players in the last 20 years?

So you're going to believe 3 guys who played a combined 30 snaps over the other 3000 players? You're hoping it's true, which is telling.

If I'm wrong and others come forward, so be it, now is the time. Guess we'll see.
I’m really hoping there is nothing to it, I’m not a Gundy fan boy to say the least, but I don’t want my school to be classed as a racist institution. That’s simply not acceptable.
 
What happened to the man who turned 40? That guy stood up for players very emotionally and vocally.
I believe the rant was an inflection point for Gundy. From what I know of him, he (like everyone else) has insecurities, and the rant was actually his true self. I think it embarrassed him in a lot of ways, even though I think it was largely perceived as a positive for him and the program. He went from being the coach running down the sidelines screaming at officials (to the crowd's delight), a guy that brought in Bobby Reid, and a guy who went scorched earth in a press conference to a guy that shows zero emotions, ever, and appears completely detached half the time. He changed deliberately, and I think it's in large part to him trying to insulate himself from outside criticism, and it's made him a harsh, selfish person. Ever notice how much he mentions how little he pays attention to outside criticism? He definitely pays attention to it. He just tries to act like he doesn't.

I think we all do this to varying degrees, so I get it... But as a football coach, I think he could benefit from rediscovering some of his earlier form with regards to his passion and emotions for the game and the players.
 
It's a repeat of the same types of comments that former players were saying. I could see a for cause if racism is proven considering it was previously addressed.

Or it’s literally the same thing and same incidents, but they’re just being rehashed. Go look up articles written around the OAN incident. The comments are the same. This is old news. Gundy already apologized.
 
Sounds like there will be more. This type of behavior makes sense as to why we keep losing talent to the portal and potential transfers/recruits don’t have good vibes to choose OSU. This explains this coaching staff’s lack of successful recruiting classes. Gundy’s a dinosaur, he can’t relate to incoming players and doesn’t have the sympathy/understanding to adapt to what players in this day and age are looking for in leadership.

Jabar Muhammad and Mason Cobb. Those are the only two players that were big losses we’ve had in the portal. We’ve had plenty of others that were productive that transferred in from the portal. The portal has been a net positive.
 
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Jabar Muhammad and Mason Cox. Those are the only two players that were big losses we’ve had in the portal. We’ve had plenty of others that were productive that transferred in from the portal. The portal has been a net positive.

DJ McKinney - pick 6’d us Friday
Caleb Etienne - Starting LT for BYU
Cade Bennett - All-MWC G that Xfer’d to TCU (injured before season started)
Tanner McCalister
Jarrick Bernard-Converse
John Paul Richardson
Thomas Harper

There are more. Here’s the significant ones I can thank of.
 
I can see Gundy being a condescending a-hole to players, but I have hard time believing he would be openly and blatantly racist to them. Unfortunately, once an allegation like that is made, it will get all the attention. The focus needs to be on coaching changes and contract changes, not on this. Good Coordinators and position coaches are already getting calls or at least their agents are.

Now, if he really did do something like that, then it should be cause to fire him without paying the buyout....unfortunately, that would mean everything on hold during a lengthy, and public, investigation.
 
DJ McKinney - pick 6’d us Friday
Caleb Etienne - Starting LT for BYU
Cade Bennett - All-MWC G that Xfer’d to TCU (injured before season started)
Tanner McCalister
Jarrick Bernard-Converse
John Paul Richardson
Thomas Harper

There are more. Here’s the significant ones I can thank of.

You know with the transfer portal you can do that for any team in the country. We are probably average or lower on transfers if you consider everyone that stayed last year

And you forgot the one we could really use, Mason Cobb


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DJ McKinney - pick 6’d us Friday
Caleb Etienne - Starting LT for BYU
Cade Bennett - All-MWC G that Xfer’d to TCU (injured before season started)
Tanner McCalister
Jarrick Bernard-Converse
John Paul Richardson
Thomas Harper

There are more. Here’s the significant ones I can thank of.

E’Tienne may be starting. But he hasn’t been good. https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougars/2024/08/30/byu-football-is-moving-its-worst/

That was McKinneys 2nd int of the season. And we suck, so a pick 6 against us isn’t as big of a deal. He has 41 tackles on the year. He would have played this year at OSU, but he wouldn’t have been a big difference maker.

Tanner Mcalister was a good player for us. But he wasn’t a star and was then a role player at best at Ohio State. He had 24 tackles and one int his one year at Ohio State.

JBC wasn’t and isn’t any good.

John Paul Richardson had some good games for us, but he was 4th string at best and hasn’t been anything different at TCU.

Thomas Harper was good. I’ll give ya that one.
 
It absolutely happens at other schools. You just live in an Oklahoma news bubble so you don’t really hear of the others.
Nope. I don’t live in Oklahoma and I don’t pay much attention to Oklahoma news outlets besides this site. I found about this from Reddit where most posters agreed that this tracts for Gundy.
 
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