I don't know what's better. Trump's "uhhhhh" as he does anything possible to not call Putin a dictator or Macron's reaction... Whoever was filming this was a genius. Lol.
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mugatu
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Agree completely for multiple reasons.
Compilation of information is a serious concern in certain instances. Sending responses to a vague question may be fine for one person, but a major problem for everyone in the federal government, especially DOJ, DOD, State, DOE etc.
Where is that information going and who is looking at it?
Do they have any idea of what anything I do means?
How secure is the response?
The answers to the above are probably why several departments said, DO NOT RESPOND.
I'm curious what you think the 5 bullet point email can possibly accomplish in determining if someone is being productive.
And even from a productivity standpoint, how much productivity was lost with responding to the email itself? The avg. Federal worker makes around $106k, ~$50 an hour. If the 2.2 million federal workers spent 10 minutes writing out their bullet points and sending the email, the cost to do this task that was completely pointless to their actual job cost taxpayers $18 million. (Note, 10 minutes is extremely conservative, I spent most of my day dealing with this inane request).
And for what? The HR email now has to read through 2.2 million responses and, not even knowing the actual duties of the person who sent it, determine if that was an appropriate level of accomplishment.
Hegseth and DOD has advised their employees not to respond to the 5 bullet points email.
And you don't think 5 bullet points email is an effective screening tool to evaluate employees do you? There is a whole performance evaluation system already set up in these agencies.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
So Trump said these 5 bullet points would then be used to put into Musk's AI and then the AI would determine if the Job was relevant or if the Person was Relevant.
Seems NO ONE is Checking ANYTHING if the answers are going into an AI .
So tell me. What Makes this AI better at making this decision....than an actual Human Being ?
Please explain to me in DETAIL how the AI works and How it will use these 5 bullet points to determine to cut a Department or to cut a Headcount. Be Thorough please so I can explain to folks I know who lost their Job why this AI knows better than their Bosses.
With the major agencies (DOJ, DOD, State) telling their employees to not respond to OPM/DOGE's "respond or be fired" bullet points email, the employees are being given a real Hobson's choice....don't respond and subject yourself to OPM/DOGE firings or do respond and subject yourself to firing by your agency head for insubordination.
mugatu
Ranger
AI doesn't know anything if it hasn't been trained on the data type/set. How did they train an AI algorithm to determine what is relevant and important for EVERY role in every agency across the federal government?
Seems like this is more of a means of collecting data that honestly determining each positions worth.
mugatu
Ranger
Why is the default opinion that every gov employee does nothing? That's crazy. Are there lazy people there, sure but to say EVERY one if them is worthless in their role.... come on.
The language that is being used is just like that for every other group MAGA attacks. Dehumanize and vilify everyone in the group across the board without exception
The language that is being used is just like that for every other group MAGA attacks. Dehumanize and vilify everyone in the group across the board without exception
And what are the primary reasons to be probationary?
Either/or
To see if the employee will perform as needed.
To protect established workers.
Perfect. Could go in Health Going Backwards as well.
You are new.
Or you got promoted.
So they are firing new people (maybe not unreasonable but given the hiring freeze most new people were in short staffed areas) or they are firing people who were good enough to get promoted to a new job.
The idea that this is in any way getting rid of poor performers is not realistic. Pretty much doing the opposite since poor performance tends to not get promoted.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
and how exactly does AI determine that based on 5 bullet points ?
I'm retired. It feels like a promotion.
I used temps->probationary-> permanent and it worked wonderfully.
I'm pretty sure union's use probationary to weed out unfit while protecting established members.
Poor performers were never advanced past temp or probationary.
I would hope managers would do so before AI finalizes anything.
Good luck with that. You are taking about millions of emails that no one is going to take the time to look at.
If you truly believe this, welcome to the libs. You can now purchase an electric vehicle (but not a tesla). For lunch their is ethically sourced vegan fare. The socialism now meeting is at 2.
What may normally happen is not what is happening now.I'm retired. It feels like a promotion.
I used temps->probationary-> permanent and it worked wonderfully.
I'm pretty sure union's use probationary to weed out unfit while protecting established members.
Poor performers were never advanced past temp or probationary.
My point that you can choose to believe or not, is that the current firing is simply getting rid of workers. They aren't getting rid of weaker workers. If anything, probably a little bit they are getting rid of better workers.
Because of years of conditioning by far right at the government lazy people that are stealing their taxes.
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