US continues to go backward...

You'll probably be one of the first to go into the camps.
The only thing that is making me somewhat happy is knowing that people like you will suffer just like the rest of us. Your groceries and gas are going to skyrocket. You are not going to get any trickle down from the mega rich. Rural areas will suffer the worst, and I will get "We told you so" tattooed on my forehead.
 
The only thing that is making me somewhat happy is knowing that people like you will suffer just like the rest of us. Your groceries and gas are going to skyrocket. You are not going to get any trickle down from the mega rich. Rural areas will suffer the worst, and I will get "We told you so" tattooed on my forehead.
Don't worry about the tattoo. They'll give you one of those when you enter the camp. And that's exactly what it will say.
 

I don't think we will turn into Gilead in the next fuor years, and if we do.....I have the means and ability to expatriate myself and my family (3 adult daughters all in their 20s) elsewhere (a couple of elsewheres, actually) if necessary. I don't think it will come to that, but I have a plan if it does. It's a plan that I may still enact when I retire whomever is in power....and I could pull that trigger earlier if needed.
This is me over the past 4 years....the only thing I didn't do was purchase the two rolls of razor wire that were on my list.
 
I wish I shared your optimism. We are no longer the UNITED states of America, we are effectively Magastan. They control the government, supreme court, and military. No more checks and balances.

I'm terrified for the women in my life, for all of my queer friends, for anybody that dares to be an atheist (like me), for my small business when COGs skyrocket like Elon said they would, if when Colorado has a natural disaster and trump punishes us for being blue, and a myriad of other things.
As far as abortion rights are concerned women in your life should live in states where abortion rights are in the state constitution. Missouri which often turns thumb down to doing how Republicans want them to vote on state questions now has abortion rights. The ban was repealed. Missouri citizens are pretty cool for not letting Republicans tell them what to do. Also approved was raising the min. wage to $15 in 2026. In the past, Missouri approved legal rec marijuana, rejected right to work, and accepted extended Medicaid, passing it by a wider margin than when Oklahoma did.

Not sure how abortion rights can be made in Oklahoma unless rural counties are given something they can live with, such as giving them the right to as much as ban all abortion unless to save life of mother. So legal abortion only by county option. Legalizing rec marijuana can be tried the same way.
 
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This is me over the past 4 years....the only thing I didn't do was purchase the two rolls of razor wire that were on my list.
To be clear, I'm not bunkering down in place like it sounds like you're planning.

I'm got plans for "slow travel"....maybe an Irish pub run by an American expat in County Cork....opportunities for an Irish/EU passport which means residency opportunities in all EU.....Costa Rica or Panama.

I really want to live in Ireland for a significant period of time....maybe even the rest of my life.

I want to be clear though....this isn't even remotely an "I'm leaving the country because XYZ got elected" type thing. I've been looking at this option for a long time. I not certain that it will come to fruition, but it's definitely possible.
 
I'm got plans for "slow travel"....maybe an Irish pub run by an American expat in County Cork....opportunities for an Irish/EU passport which means residency opportunities in all EU.....Costa Rica or Panama.
When you do this me and Rob are coming and dressing in red, white, and blue and hats with zzz's on them and playing the Toby Kieth song about eagles putting boots in world's asses on repeat!!!!!
 
When you do this me and Rob are coming and dressing in red, white, and blue and hats with zzz's on them and playing the Toby Kieth song about eagles putting boots in world's asses on repeat!!!!!
And you'll find the local Guarda who have been drinking for free ready and willing to throw your MAGA asses right in Kilmainham Gaol....or the functional equivalent since Kilmainham is now a museum.

It'll just be for the horrible Toby Keith song though.
 
To be clear, I'm not bunkering down in place like it sounds like you're planning.

I'm got plans for "slow travel"....maybe an Irish pub run by an American expat in County Cork....opportunities for an Irish/EU passport which means residency opportunities in all EU.....Costa Rica or Panama.

I really want to live in Ireland for a significant period of time....maybe even the rest of my life.

I want to be clear though....this isn't even remotely an "I'm leaving the country because XYZ got elected" type thing. I've been looking at this option for a long time. I not certain that it will come to fruition, but it's definitely possible.
We have a common interest. I too will live in another country — maybe even as early as 2026. But it has nothing to do with politics. Just my wife and I want to spend some time of my life living in Italy and traveling abroad while we are young enough (or more precisely…not too old) to enjoy it.
 
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