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[Rob B.]

Huh. I guess we are detaining political prisoners now.

That's frightening. When do those of us who have publicly been against the administration start to get worried?

Political prisoner?
WTF?
He was arrested on suspicion of being part of a terrorist group. Whether he is one or not doesn't make him a political prisoner.

Who is Mahmoud Khalil? Columbia University grad detained by ICE

Khalil, a Palestinian activist who was involved in Columbia University's protests last year, has been detained by ICE.

www.newsweek.com

 

[GratefulPoke]

Political prisoner?
WTF?
He was arrested on suspicion of being part of a terrorist group. Whether he is one or not doesn't make him a political prisoner.

Who is Mahmoud Khalil? Columbia University grad detained by ICE

Khalil, a Palestinian activist who was involved in Columbia University's protests last year, has been detained by ICE.

www.newsweek.com

He didnt break any laws and was not charged with anything. They canceled his visa for political reasons and are deporting him for not having a visa.

If that doesn't make him a political prisoner, I'm not sure what does.

 

[cowboyinexile]

Political prisoner?
WTF?
He was arrested on suspicion of being part of a terrorist group. Whether he is one or not doesn't make him a political prisoner.

Who is Mahmoud Khalil? Columbia University grad detained by ICE

Khalil, a Palestinian activist who was involved in Columbia University's protests last year, has been detained by ICE.

www.newsweek.com

He was a lawful resident who was arrested because the current administration didn't like what he was protesting before they came to power.

If we are ok with this because not everyone agrees that his cause was just, who is detained next? It's a pretty slippery slope if the administration is gonna detain people for doing legal stuff they disagree with.

 

[Stillwater Townie]

Trump now wants us to believe that to get from Biden's completely fine economy to Trump's explosive economic growth, we have to go through a "transition" that some might call...a recession. This guy is nuts.

David Pakman (@david.pakman) on Threads

Trump now wants us to believe that to get from Biden's completely fine economy to Trump's explosive economic growth, we have to go through a "transition" that some might call...a recession. This guy is nuts.

www.threads.net

For being a billionaire and surrounded by fellow billionaires, that's easy for him to say. All they will be concerned about is oppostion to their plans.

 

[Rob B.]

He didnt break any laws and was not charged with anything. They canceled his visa for political reasons and are deporting him for not having a visa.

If that doesn't make him a political prisoner, I'm not sure what does.

He was a lawful resident who was arrested because the current administration didn't like what he was protesting before they came to power.

If we are ok with this because not everyone agrees that his cause was just, who is detained next? It's a pretty slippery slope if the administration is gonna detain people for doing legal stuff they disagree with.

Did you read the article? It says he was arrested for associating with Hamas and that is why his visa was cancelled.

 

[GratefulPoke]

Did you read the article? It says he was arrested for associating with Hamas and that is why his visa was cancelled.

Did you read the article? Our current administration is trying to say that anyone who joined the pro-palesrianian protests were Hamas supporters. Do you see the difference?

 

[CowboyJD]

Political prisoner?
WTF?
He was arrested on suspicion of being part of a terrorist group. Whether he is one or not doesn't make him a political prisoner.

Who is Mahmoud Khalil? Columbia University grad detained by ICE

Khalil, a Palestinian activist who was involved in Columbia University's protests last year, has been detained by ICE.

www.newsweek.com

Where do you get he was arrested on suspicion of terrorism?

The article says nothing like that.

“The agents reportedly claimed the State Department had revoked his student visa, which they cited as the reason for his detention.”

If he was arrested for suspicion of being part of a terrorist group, he have to be held in a criminal facility….jail or federal prison. He’s not. He’s being held at an ICE detention facility.

Technically, he’s not even been arrested. He’s an immigration violation detainee. There’s a legal difference between those two.

 

[PF5]

Did you read the article? It says he was arrested for associating with Hamas and that is why his visa was cancelled.

where did you read this? you know, like specifically? I´ve read it twice and seem to be missing what you are reading...

 

[Rob B.]

Did you read the article? Our current administration is trying to say that anyone who joined the pro-palesrianian protests were Hamas supporters. Do you see the difference?

No, they're not.



The university’s allegations against Khalil focused on his involvement in the Columbia University Apartheid Divest group. He faced sanctions for potentially helping to organize an “unauthorized marching event” in which participants glorified Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023, attack and playing a “substantial role” in the circulation of social media posts criticizing Zionism, among other acts of alleged discrimination.
Further developments in Khalil's case are expected soon. It is unknown if similar arrests will take place across campuses soon.

In certain cases, the DHS can initiate deportation proceedings against green card holders for alleged criminal activity, which includes support of a terror group, according to the AP.

Camille Mackler, founder of Immigrant ARC, a coalition of legal service providers in New York, told the AP that the removal of an individual's permanent resident status would ultimately be decided by an immigration judge overseeing the deportation proceeding.

 

[CowboyJD]

He was a lawful resident who was arrested because the current administration didn't like what he was protesting before they came to power.

If we are ok with this because not everyone agrees that his cause was just, who is detained next? It's a pretty slippery slope if the administration is gonna detain people for doing legal stuff they disagree with.

They’re just say it’s illegal because Trump filed an EO saying you can’t do that.

 

[Rob B.]

They’re just say it’s illegal because Trump filed an EO saying you can’t do that.

They'll be coming to arrest us next because we said Trump shouldn't felate Putin.

 

[JTOSU]

Sounds like the guy is a POS. But being a POS should not be a reason why the government should lock you up.

The protests that he encouraged did have a security guard assaulted, but there doesn’t appear to be any evidence that he was part of that. Seems the easier thing to do is just not renew his Visa.

 

[cowboyinexile]

They'll be coming to arrest us next because we said Trump shouldn't felate Putin.

Obviously I was being a little over dramatic. They aren't going to start going after people who say stuff lime FDT on Facebook (although his supporters did try and make life awful for people who said terrible things about his assassination attempts). That's millions of people.

What is plausible though is using this as an example to try and prevent future civil disobedience. An EO to say protesting in certain public places is illegal and next time the story is spun like a dude they arrest has links to antifa. Or use the data Elon is collecting to go after charities that they try and claim are funding illegal activity.

This was an authoritative act by the administration.

 

[CowboyJD]

They'll be coming to arrest us next because we said Trump shouldn't felate Putin.

Remember when you asked me if I’d charge someone just for protesting? I said no because my oath is to the Constitution.

This is looking more and more like Trump will be doing exactly that.

It’s easy to dismiss this situation and blow it off because this guy sounds like a POS (I agree with @JTOSU on that).

But Trump this week issued an EO trying to alter a public service loan forgiveness program approved by Congress where certain public service and non-profit public workers can get loan forgiveness after paying on time for 10 years…..if the recipient works for an immigration or trans-rights or other organizations he says are counter to his wishes.

It’s not a stretch to think he’ll come after lawful, peaceful protestors that he disagrees with at all.

Sounds like the guy is a POS. But being a POS should not be a reason why the government should lock you up.

The protests that he encouraged did have a security guard assaulted, but there doesn’t appear to be any evidence that he was part of that. Seems the easier thing to do is just not renew his Visa.

 

[GratefulPoke]

No, they're not.



The university’s allegations against Khalil focused on his involvement in the Columbia University Apartheid Divest group. He faced sanctions for potentially helping to organize an “unauthorized marching event” in which participants glorified Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023, attack and playing a “substantial role” in the circulation of social media posts criticizing Zionism, among other acts of alleged discrimination.
Further developments in Khalil's case are expected soon. It is unknown if similar arrests will take place across campuses soon.

In certain cases, the DHS can initiate deportation proceedings against green card holders for alleged criminal activity, which includes support of a terror group, according to the AP.

Camille Mackler, founder of Immigrant ARC, a coalition of legal service providers in New York, told the AP that the removal of an individual's permanent resident status would ultimately be decided by an immigration judge overseeing the deportation proceeding.

First of all, an unauthorized marching event is breaking university policy, not breaking the law. Despite those protests being widely recorded, this student was not implicated in doing any sort of discrimination or illegal activity. The university tried to expel him before, and they were unable to do so due to lack of evidence.

It's pretty simple. He organized the protests, which is why he is being targeted. Agree or disagree with him, this is a direct violation of the first amendment. Any "free speech absolutist" should be able to identify what is going on here.

 

[CowboyJD]

First of all, an unauthorized marching event is breaking university policy, not breaking the law. Despite those protests being widely recorded, this student was not implicated in doing any sort of discrimination or illegal activity. The university tried to expel him before, and they were unable to do so due to lack of evidence.

It's pretty simple. He organized the protests, which is why he is being targeted. Agree or disagree with him, this is a direct violation of the first amendment. Any "free speech absolutist" should be able to identify what is going on here.

Are Non-Citizens Protected by the First Amendment?

Are non-citizens protected by the First Amendment? The answer isn't as clear-cut as you may think. Here's everything to know.

www.freedomforum.org

 

[Polds4OSU]

Immigration agents detained Columbia University graduate Mahmoud Khalil at his apartment, claiming his green card had been revoked, his attorney said.

HuffPost (@huffpost) on Threads

Immigration agents detained Columbia University graduate Mahmoud Khalil at his apartment, claiming his green card had been revoked, his attorney said.

www.threads.net

 

[Stillwater Townie]

This elderly French senator knows quite well what has been going on with Trump. Wow, interest rates are 25% in Russia!