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Trump, Barr feud reaches fever pitch​



The escalating feud between former President Trump and his one-time Attorney General Bill Barr is reaching a fever pitch, with Trump’s indictment on federal charges last week adding accelerant to what had already been a fiery break between the two men.

Barr has been among the most prominent conservatives or former Trump administration officials to publicly criticize their former boss’s behavior and vouch for the strength of the federal indictment against him, undercutting defenses offered up by Trump and his allies.

Barr has called special counsel Jack Smith’s indictment “damning,” dismissed Trump’s defenses as “absurd,” and compared Trump to a “defiant 9-year-old kid.”

In response, Trump has called Barr a “gutless pig,” a “RINO,” meaning Republican in Name Only, and a “coward,” reserving some of his harshest language for the man he once praised as “one of the most respected jurists in the country.”

“So nice to see that Sloppy, Low Energy RINO Bill Barr, gets loudly booed and shouted at everywhere he goes! He is sooo bad for America,” Trump wrote Tuesday on his Truth Social platform.

Barr served as Trump’s attorney general for two years before resigning in December 2020, when he first broke with Trump as the former president pushed claims that the 2020 election was rigged and fraudulent. Barr had declared that the Justice Department he oversaw at the time found no basis to claims of widespread voter fraud that led to Trump’s election loss.

In the past year in particular, Barr has emerged as an outspoken critic of his former boss, testifying before the House panel investigating the Jan. 6 riots at the Capitol and becoming one of the most outspoken Republicans regarding the seriousness of the FBI search of Mar-a-Lago last August to retrieve classified documents from Trump’s time in the White House.

The indictment details that Trump sought to retain documents containing some of the nation’s most sensitive secrets, including the withholding of national defense information and the concealment of his possession of classified documents. Trump has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

In an op-ed published Monday in The Free Press, Barr laid out the facts of the documents case and pushed back on Trump’s various defenses, including that he had a right to keep the classified material under the Presidential Records Act and that he’s the victim of a double standard.

“For the sake of the country, our party, and a basic respect for the truth, it is time that Republicans come to grips with the hard truths about President Trump’s conduct and its implications,” Barr wrote. “Chief among them: Trump’s indictment is not the result of unfair government persecution. This is a situation entirely of his own making. The effort to present Trump as a victim in the Mar-a-Lago document affair is cynical political propaganda.”

Trump has been particularly irate at Barr in the roughly two weeks since he announced he’d been indicted in the documents case, lashing out on Truth Social, savaging him on a radio show hosted by political operative and Trump ally Roger Stone and again targeting his former attorney general in an interview conducted Monday.

“Bill Barr was a coward. Bill Barr didn’t do what he was supposed to do. I fired him. And he has great hatred,” Trump said in a Fox News interview aired Monday. “And that’s OK, because some people do. And some people love me very much.”

Trump’s ire is consistent with his habit of dumping on officials he previously nominated or appointed who have since criticized him in some way.

In Monday’s interview, Fox anchor Bret Baier noted that Barr, former Defense Secretary Mark Esper, former Vice President Mike Pence, former national security adviser John Bolton and former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo are among those who have questioned Trump’s judgment or character in some way since the end of his administration.

Baier also listed to Trump a litany of insults the former president has issued to each of those former officials in return.

Those who previously worked under Barr in the Justice Department have argued that he is committed to the rule of law and issues of national security. They also noted that he has been far more outspoken in defending probes led by the DOJ, a department he led under two different presidents.

Others have noted that there are political factors at play as well. The former attorney general is a dedicated, longtime Republican who has made it clear he would like to see the GOP move on from Trump.

“I think Barr is trying to cleanse himself of his Trump association, which is not likely to work with anyone who paid attention to what he did for Trump as AG,” said Alan Morrison, a law professor at George Washington University. “I also think that he is trying to get Republicans to move away from Trump as the best means of taking the White House in 2024.”

In an interview Sunday on CBS, Barr again made the case that Trump is unfit to serve another term in the White House.

“He will always put his own interests, and gratifying his own ego, ahead of everything else, including the country’s interest. There’s no question about it,” Barr said.

“Our country can’t be a therapy session for, you know, a troubled man like this,” Barr said.
 
He's like a 13 year old making stupid excuses. What an utterly pathetic person. A complete loser. Its incredible that so many people still think he's worthy of the presidency.
I agree. I'm sure people like pitiful political hack Roger Stone, who Trump pardoned, would disagree with you. Stone thinks Trump was the best president since Abraham Lincoln. But Stone is such an advanced idiot that he has the portrait of a political crook, Nixon, tattooed on his back.

Barr, Pence and Sessions represent the far Christian Right. Trump probably picked them to please the Evangelicals.

It will be interesting to see if Trump will have to resort to seeking interviews with people who will be more sympathetic to his cause such as loony, far right, infamous conspiracy fanatics as in Alex Jones or Mike Adams. But both of them wish Trump would totally denounce the covid vaccines.
 
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He's like a 13 year old making stupid excuses. What an utterly pathetic person. A complete loser. Its incredible that so many people still think he's worthy of the presidency.
Its equally incredible that people thought he was worthy of presidency the first time. He can't even put together coherent sentences. How he ever became a candidate is beyond comprehension. He's a symptom of how bad things are in the populace and in politics right now.
 

Trump Melts Down as DOJ Turns Over Evidence It Plans to Use Against Him​


Donald Trump fired off a series of desperate pleas on Truth Social, including multiple appeals to for Congress to bail him out, hours after news broke that the Justice Department had turned over the first batch of evidence it plans to use against him. The former president was indicted earlier this month on charges related to his handling of classified material after leaving the White House.

“CONGRESS, PLEASE INVESTIGATE THE POLITICAL WITCH HUNTS AGAINST ME CURRENTLY BEING BROUGHT BY THE CORRUPT DOJ AND FBI, WHO ARE TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL,” Trump wrote Thursday morning.

The former president also dusted off the idea that the DOJ framed him by planting the classified at Mar-a-Lago — despite the fact that he’s claimed repeatedly that he somehow declassified the material before bringing it to Florida himself. “Congress will hopefully now look at the ever continuing Witch Hunts and ELECTION INTERFERENCE against me on perfectly legal Boxes, where I have no doubt that information is being secretly “planted” by the scoundrels in charge,” he wrote in another post before griping about his other legal woes.

Trump’s indictment is damning, with the DOJ alleging that the former president knowingly took classified documents to Mar-a-Lago, stored them in unsecure locations, and then conspired to lie to authorities about what he was hoarding while suggesting the material should be destroyed. The indictment also outlines a recording it obtained featuring Trump bragging about having a “secret” plan against Iran.

The evidence the DOJ turned over on Wednesday includes more recordings of the former president, described as “interviews” recorded with his consent. It’s unclear what is on the additional tapes. The evidence also includes grand jury witness testimony — which means Trump now knows who testified against them and what they said — as well as material obtained through subpoenas.

Trump, understandably, seems pretty nervous. “THIS CONTINUING SAGA IS RETRIBUTION AGAINST ME FOR WINNING AND, EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY TO THEM, ELECTION INTERFERENCE REGARDING THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION,” he added on Thursday morning. “IT WILL BE THERE UPDATED FORM OF RIGGING OUR MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION. LOOK AT THE POLLS – THEY CAN’T BEAT ME (MAGA!) AT THE BALLOT BOX, THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN WIN IS TO CHEAT. STOP THEM NOW!”

Trump pleaded not guilt to all of the charges against him. The DOJ has asked for a speedy trial, and Judge Aileen Cannon earlier this week told both sides to file all pre-trial motions by July 24 while slating the trial to begin on Aug. 14. Trump’s team will almost certainly move to delay the start date as long as possible — maybe even until he can retake the White House and appoint an attorney general who will drop the case.

 
In conjunction with post #108 above they must have some real hard core evidence on Trump..based on his behavior and this info.

Dem Senator Says New Filing In Trump Documents Case May Spell 'Real Trouble'​



en. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-R.I.) said Wednesday’s Justice Department court filing in the classified documents case against Donald Trump indicates prosecutors have a strong case against the former president.

“It tells me that the special counsel thinks he’s got a very solid case, and he doesn’t need to be cute. He can be what prosecutors call ‘open kimono’ and turn over all the evidence early,” Whitehouse, a former federal prosecutor, told MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell.

The filing disclosed that special counsel Jack Smith’s team had handed over its first set of discovery materials supporting its case to Trump, who is accused of mishandling classified government documents taken from the White House to his Mar-a-Lago estate.

The first batch of discovery included evidence obtained via search warrants and subpoenas, surveillance footage and grand jury testimony of witnesses who will testify for the government at trial, according to CNN.

Whitehouse said the sizable handover spelled trouble for Trump and his legal team.

“It tells me that it’s gonna be bad Christmas for the Trump lawyers as they open the different files of evidence and find out how awful the evidence is against their client,” he said.

“And it tells me that they want to get Trump’s attention early,” he added, “by getting his lawyers the evidence that they need to be able to go to their client and say, ‘Hey, you are in real trouble here.’”

Trump was indicted earlier this month on 37 criminal counts, including Espionage Act violations, after prosecutors said he refused to return hundreds of sensitive government documents despite repeated efforts to recover them, including a government subpoena.
 

Chris Christie Shouts Down Trump Supporters at Evangelical Conference: ‘You Can Boo All You Want’​



Chris Christie drew boos at an evangelical conference on Friday when he told attendees that Donald Trump had “let us down.”
“I’m running because he’s let us down,” the 2024 Republican presidential hopeful said of the former president, who has been charged with 37 counts relating to the Espionage Act after failing to return several boxes of hundreds of classified documents he had taken from the White House.
“He has let us down because he’s unwilling. He’s unwilling to take responsibility for any of the mistakes that were made and any of the faults that he has, and any of the things that he’s done. And that is not leadership, everybody. That is a failure of leadership.”
Watch a segment of Christie’s speech below.

That’s when the crowd began to boo. “You can boo all you want,” Christie continued, eventually drawing cheers and applause after saying, “But here’s the thing: Our faith teaches us that people have to take responsibility for what they do. People have to stand up and take accountability for what they do.”
Christie is just one of the speakers at the Road to Majority Evangelical Conference in Washington D.C., which began Thursday.
Trump, who is running again for president, is also scheduled to speak, as is his former vice president and now political rival, Mike Pence. Nikki Haley, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Kevin McCarthy are also among the announced speakers.
 

Conservative retired federal judge calls GOP ‘spineless’ in scathing rebuke of Trump​

Conservative retired federal judge J. Michael Luttig has called the Republican Party base “spineless” for its continued support of former President Donald Trump and submitted that the GOP is destroying itself.

“If the indictment of Mr. Trump on Espionage Act charges – not to mention his now almost certain indictment for conspiring to obstruct Congress from certifying Mr. Biden as the president on Jan. 6 – fails to shake the Republican Party from its moribund political senses, then it is beyond saving itself. Nor ought it be saved,” Luttig said in a scathing New York Times op-ed published Sunday.

Luttig called Republican support of Trump, the current front-runner for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, “a colossal political miscalculation.”

“No assemblage of politicians except the Republicans would ever conceive of running for the American presidency by running against the Constitution and the rule of law. But that’s exactly what they’re planning,” Luttig wrote.

The op-ed marks an extraordinary repudiation of the GOP from a lifelong registered Republican.

Luttig, a former judge on the 4th US Circuit Court of Appeals, was a key witness at the January 6 committee hearings last year. He is also known for his conservative credentials and longstanding ties with the Supreme Court. In 1991, he was part of the team that prepared Clarence Thomas for his controversial Supreme Court nomination hearings, and he later became known as one of the top “feeder judges” on the court of appeals level, sending 45 of his 47 clerks to clerk for justices on the high court.

Ahead of the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol, Luttig advised Vice President Mike Pence’s legal team against claims from Trump allies such as attorney John Eastman, who had argued that Pence had the power to block the certification of the 2020 presidential election.

“The stewards of the Republican Party have become so inured to their putative leader, they have managed to convince themselves that an indicted and perhaps even convicted Donald Trump is their party’s best hope for the future,” Luttig wrote in his op-ed.

He also name-checked prominent Republicans who have stopped short of throwing their political support to Trump but have attacked the Justice Department over its investigations into the former president.

“Both Governor DeSantis and Mr. Pence pledged – in a new Republican litmus test – that on their first day in office they would fire the director of the F.B.I., the Trump appointee Christopher Wray, obviously for his turpitude in investigating Mr. Trump,” Luttig wrote.

The retired judge ended the op-ed with a solemn plea, for his party to put the country first and “pull back from the brink – for the good of the party, as well as the nation.”

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Conservative Legal Icon Rips 'Spineless' Republicans For 'Colossal' Trump Mistake​

 

As Legal Fees Mount, Trump Steers Donations Into PAC That Has Covered Them. 10% of 2024 Trump Presidential Campaign Donations to his PAC will be moved into his Legal Expense Fund.​


Facing multiple intensifying investigations, former President Donald Trump has quietly begun diverting more of the money he is raising away from his 2024 presidential campaign and into a political action committee that he has used to pay his personal legal fees.

The change, which went unannounced except in the fine print of his online disclosures, raises fresh questions about how Trump is paying for his mounting legal bills — which could run into millions of dollars — as he prepares for at least two criminal trials, and whether his PAC, Save America, is facing a financial crunch.

When Trump kicked off his 2024 campaign in November, for every dollar raised online, 99 cents went to his campaign, and a penny went to Save America.

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But internet archival records show that sometime in February or March, he adjusted that split. Now his campaign’s share has been reduced to 90% of donations, and 10% goes to Save America.

The effect of that change is potentially substantial: Based on fundraising figures announced by his campaign, the fine-print maneuver may already have diverted at least $1.5 million to Save America.

And the existence of the group has allowed Trump to have his small donors pay for his legal expenses, rather than paying for them himself.

Steven Cheung, a spokesperson for Trump, did not answer detailed questions about why the Trump operation has changed how the funds he is raising are being split. Save America technically owns the list of email addresses and phone numbers of his supporters — one of the former president’s most valuable assets — and the campaign is effectively paying the PAC for access to that list, he explained.

“Because the campaign wants to ensure every dollar donated to President Trump is spent in the most cost-effective manner, a fair-market analysis was conducted to determine email list rentals would be more efficient by amending the fundraising split between the two entities,” Cheung said in a written statement.

The different rules governing what political action committees and candidate campaign committees can pay for are both dizzying and somewhat in dispute. But generally, a PAC cannot spend money directly on the candidate’s campaign, and a campaign committee cannot directly pay for things that benefit the candidate personally.

For more than a year, before Trump was a 2024 candidate, Save America has been paying for bills related to various investigations into the former president and his allies. In February 2022, the PAC announced that it had $122 million in its coffers.

By the beginning of 2023, the PAC’s cash on hand was down to $18 million, filings show. The rest had been spent on staff salaries, on the costs of Trump’s political activities last year — including some spending on other candidates and groups — and in other ways. That included the $60 million that was transferred to MAGA Inc., a super PAC that is supporting Trump. And more than $16 million went to pay legal bills.

Trump’s rivals are not similarly splitting their online proceeds with an affiliated PAC. The websites of former Vice President Mike Pence, former Ambassador Nikki Haley and Sen. Tim Scott of South Carolina direct all the proceeds to their campaign committees. The same goes for Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida, former Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey and Vivek Ramaswamy.

“I think in this particular situation, specifically because of the use of the leadership PAC to pay legal expenses and potentially other expenses that would be illegal personal use of campaign money, there’s an unusual incentive for the leadership PAC to take in more than it normally would,” said Adav Noti, senior vice president and legal director of Campaign Legal Center.

In the run-up to Trump’s latest campaign, his legal bills exploded in size. Save America spent $1.9 million in what it identified as legal expenses in the first half of 2022. That figure ballooned to nearly $14.6 million in the second half of last year, federal records show.

In late 2022, a Trump adviser said that about $20 million had been set aside by Save America PAC to cover legal expenses.

Since then, Trump has been indicted twice, once by a Manhattan grand jury on charges stemming from a hush-money payment to a porn star, and once by a federal grand jury in Florida on charges including violations of the Espionage Act arising from Trump’s possession of classified material and government records long after he left office.

A prominent attorney, Todd Blanche, left his white-collar law firm in April to join the former president’s legal team and is now representing him in both cases, and Trump recently met with about a half-dozen lawyers in Florida.

Trump’s legal troubles are deeply intertwined with his political campaign and fundraising efforts. His campaign store is selling an “I Stand With Trump” T-shirt showing the date of his indictment in Manhattan (“03.30.2023”) for $36; it recently added a second shirt with his Florida indictment date (“06.08.2023”) for $38. Half the featured items on the store’s landing page show a fake mug shot and the words “not guilty.”

And Trump’s usual legal strategy — delay, delay, delay — could prove costly as overlapping teams of white-collar lawyers defend him in the federal case and the Manhattan criminal case, as well as in the investigation in Georgia, where Trump could face yet another indictment this summer for his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election. He is also facing an intensifying investigation by special counsel Jack Smith into his efforts to cling to power after losing the election.

It remains unclear whether Trump will try to use his campaign funds to pay for lawyers, should he run into difficulties with the political action committee — and whether such a move would run afoul of spending rules.

“He can use the campaign to pay for legal bills that arise out of candidate or officeholder activity — and of course, some of the current legal matters fall into that category, and some do not, and some are in a gray area,” Noti said. “It really depends on what matter we’re talking about.”

Jason Torchinsky, a Republican election lawyer, said he believed Trump was barred from using Save America donations to pay his personal legal expenses now that he’s a candidate, arguing that doing so would be “an excessive contribution” under Federal Election Commission precedent. And he said Trump could not use campaign money at all, because it would qualify as personal use.

There have been signs that Trump’s campaign has been carefully monitoring its expenses.

He has mainly attended events organized by other groups, as opposed to staging his own large-scale political rallies, which were the lifeblood of his two past runs for president and are one of his favorite parts of campaigning. Those rallies are expensive, costing at least $150,000 and usually more than $400,000.

Trump has held only one full-scale rally in the seven months he has been running, with a second scheduled on July 1 in South Carolina, his first in an early-nominating state. (A rally in Iowa on May 13 was canceled after a tornado warning, though the weather cleared and DeSantis pointedly held an impromptu event nearby.)

People familiar with the Trump campaign’s plans have said that the dearth of rallies was as much about husbanding resources as it was about getting Trump to engage with voters in a more traditional way. The people also suggested that more large-scale events might come in the fall, as the primary race heats up.

The fundraising surges that Trump experienced after his first indictment at the end of March and again in June are expected to obscure a broader fundraising slowdown. His campaign announced that he had raised $12 million in the first week after his first indictment and $7 million in the week after his second one. He will next disclose the state of his PAC and campaign’s finances in federal filings in July.

Trump is unusually dependent on online fundraising. He has held only one major campaign fundraiser that was billed as such by his team: the event at Bedminster, New Jersey, on the evening of his indictment. It raised $2 million.

 
I'm sure most, if not all trumpsters/cult45ers are happy to help out in any way they can...some probably will boast about helping with don's legal $$$$...
 
I'm sure most, if not all trumpsters/cult45ers are happy to help out in any way they can...some probably will boast about helping with don's legal $$$$...
apparently this may be illegal too

"Illegal": Trump caught diverting campaign donations as legal bills pile up​

Former President Donald Trump has been siphoning money raised for his 2024 presidential campaign into a political action committee (PAC) that covers his personal legal finances.

When Trump launched his campaign in November, 99 cents of every dollar raised went toward his campaign while one cent was diverted to his Save America PAC. But sometime this winter the split quietly changed and the fine print was amended to read that 10% of donations would go toward the PAC, according to The New York Times. Based on fund-raising figures released by his campaign, Trump may have sent at least $1.5 million to Save America as a result of the change, using donors to cover his legal fees rather than pay them himself, according to the report.

Even before the ex-president announced his re-run plans, Save America was paying for fees associated with investigations into Trump and his allies. Save America had about $122 million on hand in February 2022 but filings show that its funds fell to just $18 million by the beginning of this year. The remainder had been allotted to staff salaries, and Trump's political activities in 2022, while $60 million went to another PAC, MAGA Inc., and more than $16 million went to cover Trump's legal fees.


Generally speaking, "a PAC cannot spend money directly on the candidate's campaign, and a campaign committee cannot directly pay for things that benefit the candidate personally," the Times noted.

Democratic election lawyer Marc Elias wrote that Trump's scheme, as described, is "illegal."


"I think in this particular situation, specifically because of the use of the leadership PAC to pay legal expenses and potentially other expenses that would be illegal personal use of campaign money, there's an unusual incentive for the leadership PAC to take in more than it normally would," Adav Noti, senior vice president and director of Campaign Legal Center, told the Times.

"He can use the campaign to pay for legal bills that arise out of candidate or officeholder activity — and of course, some of the current legal matters fall into that category, and some do not, and some are in a gray area," Noti added. "It really depends on what matter we're talking about."

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Trump spokesman Steve Cheung did not answer specific questions about how the funds are divided.

"Because the campaign wants to ensure every dollar donated to President Trump is spent in the most cost-effective manner, a fair-market analysis was conducted to determine email list rentals would be more efficient by amending the fund-raising split between the two entities," he told the Times.

Trump's legal bills have ballooned in size since his last campaign began, owing largely to two recent indictments — one related to hush money payments made to adult film star Stormy Daniels in 2016 and the other over the former president's Mar-a-Lago classified documents case.
 
I remember when R v W was overturned a year ago. We had many threads talking about how this was only going to give the states back their power and no one was going after a National Ban...and the GOP would never try to seek a National Ban.

Now both Trump and Pence are running for 2024 on implementing a National Abortion Ban

Donald Trump endorses the idea of national abortion restrictions​

 
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You've got to wonder if Trump and Biden are in a race to be the first President thrown in prison. These two are both idjits.
 

Exclusive: CNN obtains the tape of Trump’s 2021 conversation about classified documents​


Leaked audio of Trump saying he has a 'secret' document that he knows he can't declassify is 'even more damning than it reads in the indictment,'​


 
Trump Team actively lobbying state GOP parties to get them to change Primary Dates and Rules so Trump can secure 2024 GOP Presidential Nomination.


Are members of the GOP across the US okay with the party changing the rules like this ?
 
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