JD Vance admitted Monday that some of the posts reportedly made by Trump-aligned North Carolina gubernatorial candidate Mark Robinson on a porn site were “pretty gross.”
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Well, you should grab him and say, "How, would you like it if somebody did that to you?" After he starts screaming and crying, let hm go and hope he got the message.
Republican vice presidential nominee JD Vance has falsely accused Vice President Kamala Harris of taking illegal action to allow Haitians to stay in the U.S. Here's why that claim is incorrect. https://www.wxyz.com/politics/truth...-claim-about-the-status-of-haitians-in-the-us
Rep. James Comer (R-KY), chair of the powerful House Oversight Committee, vowed Wednesday to open an investigation into Ukrainian President Zelenskyy's recent trip to Pennsylvania after he called Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance "radical."
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'Possible Streisand effect here': James Comer opens 'investigation' into Zelenskyy
Rep. James Comer (R-KY), chair of the powerful House Oversight Committee, vowed Wednesday to open an investigation into Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's recent trip to Pennsylvania after he called Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance "radical."On the same day Zelenskyy toured...
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Whiny, thin skinned twerps that can dish it out but can’t tolerate even a modicum of criticism.Rep. James Comer (R-KY), chair of the powerful House Oversight Committee, vowed Wednesday to open an investigation into Ukrainian President Zelenskyy's recent trip to Pennsylvania after he called Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance "radical."
'Possible Streisand effect here': James Comer opens 'investigation' into Zelenskyy
Rep. James Comer (R-KY), chair of the powerful House Oversight Committee, vowed Wednesday to open an investigation into Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy's recent trip to Pennsylvania after he called Republican vice presidential nominee J.D. Vance "radical."On the same day Zelenskyy toured...
Springfield Mayor Rejected a Call with J.D. Vance, Emails Show
In the wake of Donald Trump and his running mate J.D. Vance's sustained attacks on immigrants living in Springfield, Ohio, and a series of violent threats on the community, the city's Republican mayor rejected a call with Vance, the state's junior senator, according to emails obtained by Rolling Stone.
For weeks, Vance and Trump have pushed baseless lies about the city's Haitian immigrants, most of whom are in the United States legally. Trump claimed during his Sept. 10 presidential debate that immigrants are "eating the pets of the people that live there." Vance posted on X claiming there are reports of locals having "their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country" - even after the city manager told his office the claims were completely false.
Pressed to admit there's no evidence for his claims, Vance recently said, "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do." At a rally on Sept. 17, when Vance was asked whether he should fact check claims made by his constituents before broadcasting them to the world, the senator suggested that's only the media's responsibility. (According to The Wall Street Journal, one Springfield resident who blamed her missing cat on her Haitian neighbors soon found her cat was alive and well, living in her basement.)
The same night, Springfield's mayor, Rob Rue, emailed Vance's office to decline a meeting with the senator and Republican vice presidential nominee, citing "the serious nature of the threats we are facing."
"It is disheartening to see our vibrant community drawn into the national immigration debate, leading to disruptions in daily life and increased security concerns. Over the past week, schools and public offices have been closed due to threats," Rue wrote to Vance's state director, James Coyne, adding: "On a personal note, it is disappointing that, as an Ohio native and elected official, you would speak about our community without first reaching out to me or my team to better understand the situation."
Rue's email noted that Vance's office wanted to include "third parties in the conversation." Karen Graves, a spokesperson for the mayor, tells Rolling Stone that Vance's camp originally reached out to arrange a "private call" between the senator, mayor, and city manager.
"We initially considered accepting the invitation to have the opportunity to honestly discuss the spotlight that has been directed on our community, after having been drawn into the national immigration debate and to discuss the residual security impacts we have faced in light of the spread of misinformation," says Graves. "We later learned that they wanted to bring some constituents (without providing their names or how they selected them) into what was initially portrayed as a private call. We decided that it was in our best interest to decline."
Vance's office disputes that his team requested the meeting with Springfield officials. A Vance spokesperson tells Rolling Stone, "Senator Vance's office was confused by the last-minute cancellation of a meeting requested by Springfield officials. However, the door is always open for future discussion."
The emails show that Coyne, Vance's state director, wrote back to Rue the following morning, on Sept. 18, and expressed disappointment that "you are no longer interested in having the call your team had requested."
He added, "Our intention in inviting some of these constituents to join the call was to help facilitate a dialogue between residents we have heard from with first-hand experiences and city officials to help him contextualize their perspective with yours."
Rue responded that, given the threats that have rained down on Springfield, "it is important that any conversations on this matter involve only those directly responsible for the city's leadership."
He continued: "Any dialogue about our community should be grounded in facts and a comprehensive understanding of the situation. Unfortunately, recent communications have not consistently reflected this approach. The safety of our residents is a responsibility we take seriously, and it should not be politicized."
Trump and Vance's ongoing demagoguing of the small Midwestern city's Haitian population this month has exacerbated a climate of anger, resentment, and growing terror - among both the Haitian residents and broader community.
When Rolling Stone visited Springfield last week, we spoke at length with Casey Rollins, executive director of the Springfield District Council of St. Vincent de Paul, a Catholic social-services nonprofit that works with the community, including the area's Haitian immigrants and local poor. Rollins said if Vance were sitting in front of her right then, she would tell him: "You admittedly continue to encourage untruths and to provoke hatred among us all; politically posturing, and pawning Springfield for political gain. It is hurting all of Ohio, the nation, and our world; not just Springfield and the Haitians who are here with us. I wonder how that makes anyone in Springfield safer or more stable than we were yesterday?"
A number of Haitian workers and families in Springfield who Rolling Stone approached to interview said they did not want to be included or quoted for an article, even if completely anonymously. Most explicitly cited fear for themselves or their loved ones, given the current political rage directed at Haitians in the area. They also said they didn't know who to trust. Some even conceded that they didn't enjoy venturing outside their homes anymore, believing the city to now be especially dangerous for them and their children.
On Tuesday, a Haitian nonprofit filed criminal charges against Trump and Vance with a municipal court in Clark County, Ohio, for disrupting public services, telecommunications harassment, and aggravated menacing.
Team Trump plans to keep up attacks on immigrant populations moving into American cities and towns, with one Trump adviser telling Rolling Stone that "most voters do not want that to happen where they live and send their kids to school."
The former president has pledged to visit Springfield, even as the mayor, Rue, has attempted to publicly discourage him from doing so. Speaking at a rally on Sept. 18, Trump joked about his potential visit. "You may never see me again, but that's OK. Got to do what I got to do," he said. "‘Whatever happened to Trump?' ‘Well, he never got out of Springfield.'"
Trump has repeatedly promised to lead a historic mass-deportation of immigrants out of the U.S. if he is elected to another term. Despite the fact that most of the Haitian migrants in Springfield are in the country legally, Trump has pledged to start a new administration by rounding them up.
"We will do large deportations from Springfield, Ohio," he said. "Large deportations."
Vance to talk at tour hosted by ‘prophet’ who thinks Harris practices witchcraft
JD Vance will speak at an event on Saturday hosted by the self-styled prophet and political extremist Lance Wallnau, who has claimed Kamala Harris practices witchcraft and has written that the US is headed toward bloody internal conflict.
The campaign announced earlier this week that the Republican vice-presidential candidate will participate in a “town hall” as part of the Courage tour, a traveling pro-Trump tent revival, during a stop in Monroeville, Pennsylvania.
Wallnau, who hosts the tour and broadcasts its speakers on his online show – drawing hundreds in-person and sometimes tens of thousands virtually – is a proponent of the “seven mountains” mandate, which commands Christians to seek leadership in seven key areas of society – the church, the education system, the family, the media, the arts, business and government.
He is also a leader in the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), a movement that features modern-day apostles and has taken hold in particular in non-denominational charismatic churches that embrace faith healing and believe that the Holy Spirit can speak directly through believers in the form of speaking in tongues and prophesy. These religious spaces often also practice “deliverance ministry” and “spiritual warfare” to cleanse people of demonic entities.
Karrie Gaspard-Hogewood, a scholar whose research focuses on such groups, noted that NAR-aligned practitioners engage in a unique form of “spiritual warfare” – fighting malign forces in not only individuals who are believed to be inhabited by a malign entity, but also entire geographic areas.
“Spiritual warfare is the belief that a demon has taken up residence and is controlling anything from a large geographic space to a culture, to the White House or the supreme court,” said Gaspard-Hogewood.
Extremism researchers worry that spiritual warfare, which is by definition waged in the supernatural realm, could become dangerous if interpreted excessively literally. On January 6, spiritual warriors affiliated with the Jericho March rallied at the Capitol to protest the election results, engaging in a form of spiritual warfare on the National Mall. Wallnau, who himself prophesied that Trump would win the 2016 election and rejected the outcome when he didn’t win again in 2020, doubled down on his position at a stop of the Courage tour in Wisconsin.
“January 6 was not an insurrection – it was an election fraud intervention!” Wallnau exclaimed to the roaring crowd.
Wallnau has also written in his book, God’s Chaos Candidate: Donald J Trump and the American Unraveling, that he believes the United States is headed toward a potentially bloody clash – a “fiery trial” that will come “both to believers and nations”. In his book, in which he also claims to have met with Trump on multiple occasions, Wallnau writes that the US is entering a “crucible”, which will involve “a ‘conflict’ of ideologies, often arms, to determine a victor in the power clash”.
The Courage tour has made stops in Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin and Georgia.
The inclusion of Vance, who converted to Catholicism in 2019, in the tour highlights the Trump campaign’s increasing alignment with a movement on the religious right that seeks to subordinate US government and society to Christian doctrine.
A typical day at the Courage tour involves faith healing and music in the morning, followed by a series of speakers preaching about the scourge of secular society and espousing their opposition to LGBTQ+ inclusion. Trump-aligned organizations including TPUSA Faith and America First Policy Institute have had a presence on the tour handing out pamphlets and posting up at stands outside the tent.
Vance’s speech marks the first time the Trump campaign has officially linked with the tour. In response to a request for comment about Vance’s participation in the Courage tour, a Trump campaign spokesperson, Karoline Leavitt, did not directly comment on Wallnau or Vance’s participation in the event, but wrote that neither “President Trump, nor any of his supporters, ever engaged in an alleged ‘insurrection’.”
Wallnau did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Republicans have long enjoyed the support of conservative, and in particular, evangelical Christians. In 2016, Trump, whose profile as a twice-divorced billionaire who has faced multiple accusations of sexual assault, managed to maintain that alliance by assuring his presidency would represent the Christian right through conservative judicial appointments. Trump made good on his promise, ushering in an ultraconservative supreme court, which in 2022 overturned Roe v Wade – delivering opponents of abortion a stunning win.
Since 2020, a burgeoning movement of evangelical leaders who seek to separate the church from Maga politics could threaten that alliance. If Trump is able to hold on to those voters and turn out enough conservative Christians at the polls, he could win back the White House.
With its 19 electoral votes, Pennsylvania could be a make-or-break state for Harris and Trump. Some polling shows Kamala Harris holding a narrow lead over Trump in the state; others suggest the candidates are virtually tied there.
Vance’s participation in the Courage tour could alienate some. The campaign is probably betting the support he could shore up from rightwing Christians there will outweigh the risk of appearing at an event with extremist overtones.
I had called this below. So, they want to set up a system where people who have severe medical issues will pay even more astronomical prices for coverage than we all pay right now. Of course, those same people have a hard time even keeping employment due to their conditions so why not give them one more sucker punch? And, what will happen is that many of them will not be able to make it and will be forced onto a government program. Exactly what the big insurance companies want. They want to take money from the healthy for profits not provide medical coverage for the sick. That can be done by the taxpayer.Republican vice presidential nominee Sen. JD Vance (R-Ohio) said he wants to roll back ObamaCare’s protections for people with preexisting conditions, reopening a fight that’s repeatedly burned Republicans in the past — and one Democrats are eager to have.
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Stillwater Townie
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That is also my viewpoint but then I think about TX Gov. Abbot. He is in a wheelchair. Maybe I missed it, but I can't think of anything he has done to help make health care more affordable.
mugatu
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Abbot pressed for legislation to limit the accident suits that he made his millions with. He doesn't care about healthcare for anyone.
Just remember, an accident, a trip to the doc about that unexpected weight loss, or that funny pressure in the chest can change someone from "more affordable for many" to "I'm bankrupted by medical bills and have to go on Soonercare" faster than you can say "the insurance companies will steal nearly all the money from any changes.'
But, those that have either enough money that they don't think they could ever get there or just figure that it is worth the risk and like to gamble with their life and have no concern for their fellow humans are all for this.
There are PLENTY of alternatives that politicians could propose that would make our health care system more affordable. Heck, just look around the world. EVERY SINGLE country does it cheaper than us many with better outcomes. But, those systems would require caring about other people and not just selfishly fearing that you as an individual might lose some benefit that you have. And for many, that just isn't part of their citizenship outlook.
mugatu
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This is the problem. People only care about themselves. They don't want their taxes to go to anyone else, no matter how much it helps the country as a whole.
Or they ACTUALLY care about others and realize there are alternatives that can lower the cost of health care for millions of Americans.
Do you have a concept of a plan?
mugatu
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Yes. And they refuse to endorse many of those options. All advanced countries have a healthcare system that works and costs fractions what our does. People in this country refuse to entertain even conversations about shifting to match it. They claim government needs to be out of Healthcare because they would just mess it up. Why's it work everywhere else then? I'm not even asking for that, just fix sh!t. Find an option that isn't make people pay for everything with no support and let them suffer if they are poor.