Harris 2024 election thread

It's a classic deflection. Someone has a good idea but because of the letter in front of their name people who oppose them can't give credit without a "but."
Even worse, the thought is basic and concrete. "Appeal to those who want taxes to be low."
No, there are some people that can think beyond just low/high for appropriate tax rates.

We have a huge problem in this country that big business can basically have its way. They got tax breaks. They have lobbying power so they can write the regs (especially with republican admins who tend to put leaders of industry groups in power at government agencies). This has given them overwhelming power.

You can even see it in the stock market. Small cap stocks in the past had the most risk, but also greatest reward. But, that trend has not held in recent decades and small caps have risk, but less reward. Our politicians chasing money have given the country to large interests.

So, a politician comes out and says that she is going to target tax cuts at small businesses and start-ups. A move that not only lowers taxes, but could help shift that power balance back where it should be. But, that logic is lost on the "all taxes should always be lower" people.
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Even worse, the thought is basic and concrete. "Appeal to those who want taxes to be low."
No, there are some people that can think beyond just low/high for appropriate tax rates.

We have a huge problem in this country that big business can basically have its way. They got tax breaks. They have lobbying power so they can write the regs (especially with republican admins who tend to put leaders of industry groups in power at government agencies). This has given them overwhelming power.

You can even see it in the stock market. Small cap stocks in the past had the most risk, but also greatest reward. But, that trend has not held in recent decades and small caps have risk, but less reward. Our politicians chasing money have given the country to large interests.

So, a politician comes out and says that she is going to target tax cuts at small businesses and start-ups. A move that not only lowers taxes, but could help shift that power balance back where it should be. But, that logic is lost on the "all taxes should always be lower" people.
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I sincerely hope you typed this tongue firmly in cheek. The tax breaks Harris may be announcing are targeted for very small new companies. They are not targeted to companies the size of Small Cap stocks (+$250M to a couple of billion dollars). Those are big companies - just defined as Small Caps for investing.

Tax breaks/incentives of $5K-$50K would not change much decision-making of a $2B company.
 
I sincerely hope you typed this tongue firmly in cheek. The tax breaks Harris may be announcing are targeted for very small new companies. They are not targeted to companies the size of Small Cap stocks (+$250M to a couple of billion dollars). Those are big companies - just defined as Small Caps for investing.

Tax breaks/incentives of $5K-$50K would not change much decision-making of a $2B company.
LOL, you were so desperate to say something condescending and contrary that you didn't think that one through very well.
Tell me, what percentage of small cap stocks just created themselves at that marekt cap level and what percentage were smaller companies that moved up?
Now tell me, if Jamie Dimon calls a senator or the CEO of Mister Car Wash Inc John Dai calls up, who gets called back first?



BTW,
Mister Car Wash is a $2B MC company. The history is that it started in Houston with a single car wash location. Gee, can't imagine a small business tax cut helping that out, right?
 
LOL, you were so desperate to say something condescending and contrary that you didn't think that one through very well.
Tell me, what percentage of small cap stocks just created themselves at that marekt cap level and what percentage were smaller companies that moved up?
Now tell me, if Jamie Dimon calls a senator or the CEO of Mister Car Wash Inc John Dai calls up, who gets called back first?



BTW,
Mister Car Wash is a $2B MC company. The history is that it started in Houston with a single car wash location. Gee, can't imagine a small business tax cut helping that out, right?
lol. All businesses start small. Walmart was one store in Rogers, AR. Hopefully even some of these new companies become wildly profitable Large Caps.
 
Exactly. Which is the point that you completely missed with your stupid complaint.
All of this is relevant to his prior challenge for coming up with reasons to vote FOR Harris rather than AGAINST Trump.

This is a policy proposal that could lead independents and moderate Republicans to vote FOR Harris......but no answers to his challenge will suffice because he can just proclaim that she's not going to follow through.
 
Exactly. Which is the point that you completely missed with your stupid complaint.
Exactly??
What was my complaint — that I doubt Harris will move forward with the proposal if elected? That has nothing to do with the above.
As I stated, I applaud Harris for proposing this. This is a great move and proposal. I would hope as a country we incentivize new business. I am glad some of you are seeing the benefits of tax cuts and reducing onerous government regulation.
 
Exactly??
What was my complaint — that I doubt Harris will move forward with the proposal if elected? That has nothing to do with the above.
As I stated, I applaud Harris for proposing this. This is a great move and proposal. I would hope as a country we incentivize new business. I am glad some of you are seeing the benefits of tax cuts and reducing onerous government regulation.
Applaud?

I’m glad to see that you are finally understanding the basic concept that good ideas can come from politicians that did not try to end our republic and stay in office unelected.
 
I said it pages ago, and I'll say it again. We're debating an actual policy that Harris has put forward. That's great.

Trump when asked about NH: "It's a dump! It's the worst place in America! I'm going to fix it, make it beautiful again. You can buy bacon, and wind energy is bad, oil good! Socialist communist freaks! MAGA!".
 
Even the RNC chair likes it

Fox host: Kamala Harris’ new plan for a $50,000 tax credit for small businesses coupled with less red tape, I've got to say that is a good idea

RNC Chair: Well, that may be a good idea.
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Applaud?

I’m glad to see that you are finally understanding the basic concept that good ideas can come from politicians that did not try to end our republic and stay in office unelected.
 
I said it pages ago, and I'll say it again. We're debating an actual policy that Harris has put forward. That's great.

Trump when asked about NH: "It's a dump! It's the worst place in America! I'm going to fix it, make it beautiful again. You can buy bacon, and wind energy is bad, oil good! Socialist communist freaks! MAGA!".
Heck, the fact that she is making ANY actual, concrete policy proposals.....whether you think they are perfect or great or whatever....is itself a reason to vote FOR her when what you've highlighted passes a "policy" for the other candidate.

And even that changes from day to day.
 
Even the RNC chair likes it

Fox host: Kamala Harris’ new plan for a $50,000 tax credit for small businesses coupled with less red tape, I've got to say that is a good idea

RNC Chair: Well, that may be a good idea.
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He's taking the JT position though....it may be a good idea, but.....since it came from her I can't see her actually going forward with it.
 
Even the RNC chair likes it

Fox host: Kamala Harris’ new plan for a $50,000 tax credit for small businesses coupled with less red tape, I've got to say that is a good idea

RNC Chair: Well, that may be a good idea.
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He should like it. He would be a very disingenuous partisan not to acknowledge that the proposal is a pro-business (tax incentives, lower regulation) solution.
 
But it's not partisan to acknowledge the proposal as pro-business and in the same breath declare she'll never go through with her own proposal so it's not a reason to vote FOR her.

Got it.....
 
Whoever said it is not a reason to vote FOR her? This is exactly the type of proposal that she needs (hence my post about her need to show reasons a week ago).

It’s commons sense to realize this type of proposal flies in the face of many things she has said previously. Skepticism is normal. Similar to Trump saying he is against FL’s abortion ban,
 
Whoever said it is not a reason to vote FOR her? This is exactly the type of proposal that she needs (hence my post about her need to show reasons a week ago).

It’s commons sense to realize this type of proposal flies in the face of many things she has said previously. Skepticism is normal. Similar to Trump saying he is against FL’s abortion ban,
She's made many comments about supporting working class, cutting taxes for lower and middle class and supporting business. This is another example of that. Small business would fall under the category of working class.
 
: Last year, we invited every member of Congress to walk through the Parkland school where my daughter was shot. It is still an untouched crime scene. The blood is there, the DNA is there. The coursework was still on the desks as if the kids had just walked away from them. JD Vance never showed up. But you know who did? Kamala Harris. Because rather than thinking this as a fact of life that we need to accept, she wanted to see everything that could have been done to stop it

 
New statement from former Vice President Cheney:

“In our nation’s 248-year history, there has never been an individual who is a greater threat to our republic than Donald Trump. He tried to steal the last election using lies and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected him. He can never be trusted with power again.

As citizens, we each have a duty to put country above partisanship to defend our Constitution. That is why I will be casting my vote for VP Kamala Harris”
 
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