So let’s take this back to a policy discussion.You would probably lose. I was a democrat until Reagan. Still voted for Clinton twice. And no, Biden and Harris aren’t morally superior to even Trump.
You are showing your ignorance of things military. It isn't about survivability of the individual. It is about readiness. If 10% of a unit needed airlift out for oxygen support for a disease that is preventable and 99% of them are going to survive, that survival could be under the control of the adversary. You are thinking about yourself as an individual. That selfish thought is not how the military works and getting rid of it is why we are the best military.Sure there is. For example, If he were to say, “I think it’s a good idea to implement price controls “ or “Let’s just run 8000 patriots out of the military for refusing an experimental shot for a virus with around a 99% survival rate but completely ignore the millions crossing our southern border.” You won’t vote for Trump because he insulted your fellow servicemen. I won’t vote for Harris because she ruins their career and gets them killed. We are not the same.
probably the meme you posted that was removed for :checks notes: racism.What “clever catch phrases or blatantly racist memes” are you referring to Karen?
How the hell are we still arguing about this? Pigheaded ignorance is the only answer I can come up with.You are showing your ignorance of things military. It isn't about survivability of the individual. It is about readiness. If 10% of a unit needed airlift out for oxygen support for a disease that is preventable and 99% of them are going to survive, that survival could be under the control of the adversary. You are thinking about yourself as an individual. That selfish thought is not how the military works and getting rid of it is why we are the best military.
And it isn't just a matter of "insulting." He is showing how he feels about the military. He sees the military as idiots not smart enough to scam their way out of service like he did. He sees wounded millitary as people not good enough to avoid being shot or injured. It isn't just an insult. It is what the insult means.
Look at these core values. It says nothing about what you want. It is the opposite of Trump. Service before self. Not, "But, but, I don't want to take a shot to prevent a disease that will make me ineffective as a fighter!"
And, you will note, that the vaccine mandate was rescinded when the vaccine no longer prevented a severe illness as the virus became less virulent. Using real science, not misinformation. Like a military should do.
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He did it again this morning. Guy is straight up racist. I can disagree w someone on policy but he has nothing.probably the meme you posted that was removed for :checks notes: racism.
Sure there is. For example, If he were to say, “I think it’s a good idea to implement price controls “ or “Let’s just run 8000 patriots out of the military for refusing an experimental shot for a virus with around a 99% survival rate but completely ignore the millions crossing our southern border.” You won’t vote for Trump because he insulted your fellow servicemen. I won’t vote for Harris because she ruins their career and gets them killed. We are not the same.
This. It's not about survival. It's about continuing to be able to fight. We lost a carrier for an extended period of time because it pulled into port early in COVID and they had an outbreak. They were not fully mission capable and sat quarantined in port waiting for the outbreak to run through everyone.You are showing your ignorance of things military. It isn't about survivability of the individual. It is about readiness. If 10% of a unit needed airlift out for oxygen support for a disease that is preventable and 99% of them are going to survive, that survival could be under the control of the adversary. You are thinking about yourself as an individual. That selfish thought is not how the military works and getting rid of it is why we are the best military.
And it isn't just a matter of "insulting." He is showing how he feels about the military. He sees the military as idiots not smart enough to scam their way out of service like he did. He sees wounded millitary as people not good enough to avoid being shot or injured. It isn't just an insult. It is what the insult means.
Look at these core values. It says nothing about what you want. It is the opposite of Trump. Service before self. Not, "But, but, I don't want to take a shot to prevent a disease that will make me ineffective as a fighter!"
And, you will note, that the vaccine mandate was rescinded when the vaccine no longer prevented a severe illness as the virus became less virulent. Using real science, not misinformation. Like a military should do.
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He was told by the orange felon to be angry about it and that they were persecuted. So that's all he's allowed to think.How the hell are we still arguing about this? Pigheaded ignorance is the only answer I can come up with.
You want my honest truths:How the hell are we still arguing about this? Pigheaded ignorance is the only answer I can come up with.
During Covid? No they didn’t.With regards to "millions crossing our southern border" Congress had bipartisan legislation in place that would have helped with the situation but Trump had Republicans kill it because it was more politically advantageous to him. I don't see how you can claim a moral high ground for that.
There is nothing Trump could say that would finally change his mind….because he agrees with him in that front.Is there anything he could say that would finally change your mind?
I mean, if Harris said "GGP is right, I am a communist and I will work as hard as I can to make the US a communist nation with government controlled industrial output and no free speech" the I would fight strongly against her.
At this point Trump tried to overturn an election against the will of the people and has insulted our military. Could he say anything that would change your vote or are you at the point of accepting all of his words no matter what as seems to be the case?
That’s a little harsh don’t you think? I mean Steross is obviously misguided and inflicted with a severe case of TDS but I wouldn’t call him pigheaded and ignorant.How the hell are we still arguing about this? Pigheaded ignorance is the only answer I can come up with.
And being banned for a week for :checks notes: being racist.probably the meme you posted that was removed for :checks notes: racism.
probably the meme you posted that was removed for :checks notes: racism.
And being banned for a week for :checks notes: being racist.
You would probably lose. I was a democrat until Reagan. Still voted for Clinton twice. And no, Biden and Harris aren’t morally superior to even Trump.
I actually agree. It’s been pretty much a waste of time for both of us. I have some surgery scheduled for tomorrow and was forced to take it easy for a couple of days. Why I chose to spend that time in here will forever remain a mystery.You want my honest truths:
1. I've got a lot going on right now and this is a mental release. Outcome not important. Takes my mind off of the real stuff for a few minutes.
2. This method of arguement that I am using does not work very well. While it feels good to beat someone over the head with logic, it typically just makes them hunker down in their position and fight. This is something I have done all my life. I've learned how flawed it is, but typically am only good enough to do it right when it really counts. There are far better ways to get positions to change. Unfortunately for me those go against my instincts so have taken a lot of learning and I'm still not a pro. Beating on someone for irrelevant disagreements and seeing the outcome as happens every time on this board is a great reminder that it doesn't work. Doing it here is harmless but reminds me to avoid it when it really matters.
* if interested, the two books that have fundamentally changed my methods when I really want to convince someone are:
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I asked before and got no answer so I’ll ask again. What was funny about saying Harris has no black dna?
What the heck are you talking about?I asked before and got no answer so I’ll ask again. What was funny about saying Harris has no black dna?