Head Coach Steve Lutz

Hopefully he'll concentrate on this part of the country, esp Texass and Oklahoma and surrounding states, which is likely to be his focus. No more string of recruiting trips to New York and S. Carolina and Florida, unless he has an assistant who has good ties there. There are enough good players in this region of the country to win and win big.
It is encouraging that he spent two multi-year stints at two different places as the recruiting coordinator, that was his title, not assistant coach, those came in later jobs. So he should be well grounded on how to conduct a targeted, efficient recruiting campaign each year.
 
PickleRick said:
For those who know the portal better than I - who would you say is on our wish list for Lutz that would fit his style?

Might be an impossible to answer question. If so, hopefully Stargazer is lurking with his sources.
Click to expand...
Off the top of my head, there are a couple of decent players from Stanford in the portal and definitely some talented guys available, but you have to strike quick. Feels like we need a couple of SGs (BT and Quion gone) a SF (Dailey?), a PF and a C or two (depending on Garrison’s status)… so a whole team 😬
 
PJ-OSU said:
Off the top of my head, there are a couple of decent players from Stanford in the portal and definitely some talented guys available, but you have to strike quick. Feels like we need a couple of SGs (BT and Quion gone) a SF (Dailey?), a PF and a C or two (depending on Garrison’s status)… so a whole team 😬
Click to expand...
BT still has one more year, but could leave at anytime as a grad transfer
 
Can a basketball nerd explain why the zone defense is so hated in some circles? I get that you can’t run it exclusively because once an opponent breaks it, the defense breaks down. But it surely is effective in situations which is how Boynton seemed to insert it from time to time after timeouts. I’m pretty sure I recall Eddie throwing it out there sometimes, although very rarely, I have memories of the announcers mentioning how rare it was and why it was strategic to use in a particular situation. Is the hostility specifically to using zone as the predominant form of defense? I seem to recall that Boeheim at Syracuse used it a ton.
 
Boeheim used the 3-2 almost exclusively.

I think the love of the man-to-man defense is partially due to pride for purist, when it comes to defense. "Don't need a gimmick to win" approach. If you have the better players, you should win.

At least that is my opinion.
 
PickleRick said:
For those who know the portal better than I - who would you say is on our wish list for Lutz that would fit his style?

Might be an impossible to answer question. If so, hopefully Stargazer is lurking with his sources.
Click to expand...
www.espn.com

2024-25 transfer rankings: State of the portal after the entry deadline

NBA draft prospects entered the portal before the May 1 deadline -- where do Cam Christie, Coleman Hawkins, Jamir Watkins and others rank?
www.espn.com www.espn.com

Here is a decent ($paywall$) link with available guys in the portal.
 
SlurrrPup said:
Boeheim used the 3-2 almost exclusively.

I think the love of the man-to-man defense is partially due to pride for purist, when it comes to defense. "Don't need a gimmick to win" approach. If you have the better players, you should win.

At least that is my opinion.
Click to expand...
Pride and history specifically relating to Oklahoma A&M/OSU. Coach Iba was hardline man-to-man defense only, and a master of teaching and running it with his teams. That imprinted itself on Coach Sutton who stuck overtly to it as well. I very rarely if ever recall seeing a Sutton coached team run a zone defense. As we've get more distanced from the Iba/Sutton generation and/or their tree to coaches that haven't played under that strict old-school style, the willingness to implement zone has increased.

Nothing inherently wrong with zone defense. Switching back and forth can be very effective, as evidenced by our teams looking utterly lost against a zone defense the last decade plus. Purely a matter of coaching preference and pride.
 
Pistol Pete's Mustache said:
Can a basketball nerd explain why the zone defense is so hated in some circles? I get that you can’t run it exclusively because once an opponent breaks it, the defense breaks down. But it surely is effective in situations which is how Boynton seemed to insert it from time to time after timeouts. I’m pretty sure I recall Eddie throwing it out there sometimes, although very rarely, I have memories of the announcers mentioning how rare it was and why it was strategic to use in a particular situation. Is the hostility specifically to using zone as the predominant form of defense? I seem to recall that Boeheim at Syracuse used it a ton.
Click to expand...
Syracuse was very good at the zone, but it can be broken if teams have worked on it, usually by getting the ball to a big man near the free throw line to distribute. Also, the zone cuts down on the drives but tends to allow less contested perimeter shooting. If a team can shoot, they will have a lot of success against a zone.

I agree that throwing a zone from time to time is a good strategy. It throws the offense off their game for a bit. But good man-to-man defense is still the way to go, in my view, with timely doubles, smart switches, and lots of communication.
 
zone2poke said:
Syracuse was very good at the zone, but it can be broken if teams have worked on it, usually by getting the ball to a big man near the free throw line to distribute. Also, the zone cuts down on the drives but tends to allow less contested perimeter shooting. If a team can shoot, they will have a lot of success against a zone.

I agree that throwing a zone from time to time is a good strategy. It throws the offense off their game for a bit. But good man-to-man defense is still the way to go, in my view, with timely doubles, smart switches, and lots of communication.
Click to expand...
It also makes it hard to defensive rebound and allows way too many putbacks.
 
MT Cowboy said:
Pride and history specifically relating to Oklahoma A&M/OSU. Coach Iba was hardline man-to-man defense only, and a master of teaching and running it with his teams. That imprinted itself on Coach Sutton who stuck overtly to it as well. I very rarely if ever recall seeing a Sutton coached team run a zone defense. As we've get more distanced from the Iba/Sutton generation and/or their tree to coaches that haven't played under that strict old-school style, the willingness to implement zone has increased.

Nothing inherently wrong with zone defense. Switching back and forth can be very effective, as evidenced by our teams looking utterly lost against a zone defense the last decade plus. Purely a matter of coaching preference and pride.
Click to expand...
zone2poke said:
Syracuse was very good at the zone, but it can be broken if teams have worked on it, usually by getting the ball to a big man near the free throw line to distribute. Also, the zone cuts down on the drives but tends to allow less contested perimeter shooting. If a team can shoot, they will have a lot of success against a zone.

I agree that throwing a zone from time to time is a good strategy. It throws the offense off their game for a bit. But good man-to-man defense is still the way to go, in my view, with timely doubles, smart switches, and lots of communication.
Click to expand...

Duke Silver said:
It also makes it hard to defensive rebound and allows way too many putbacks.
Click to expand...
Regardless of style, you must be disciplined at all 5 spots on the floor. We haven't been for some time. That may be the one thing I want to see most out of Lutz right away.
 
Cowboyshoopspride said:
Coaching
Click to expand...
I understand that it is coaching, but it is still mind blowing. He did well at UAB, but kind of stunk at Stanford, which is weird because he is from that region.

3 players ranked higher than Garrison and all 4 players ranked higher than Dailey. Those were 2 of our top 5-6 players.

All 4 Stanford players were in the top 6 for minutes, so the injury bug didn't hurt Stanford. Probably had a lot of effort similar to some of our games after the Boynton interview.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

GratefulPoke
Mike Boynton Out as Oklahoma State Head Coach
2 3
Replies
40
Views
2K
PokeJ
PokeJ
CptnQuirk
  • Locked
Who Should OSU Hire as Next Basketball Head Coach?
56 57 58
Replies
1K
Views
48K
GratefulPoke
GratefulPoke
O
Kasey Dunn not going to UA
2
Replies
24
Views
2K
OrangeFan69
OrangeFan69
S
Kingfisher Public Schools Settles Federal Civil Abuse Lawsuit for $5 million
Replies
3
Views
186
andylicious
andylicious
jobob85
  • Locked
Coach Gundy's House
2 3
Replies
46
Views
2K
Cowboyshoopspride
Cowboyshoopspride
Back
Top