Wrong again. It was already political fodder because Biden pardoned this monster. I just simply shed light on it. So you're good with the other prisoners murdering this guy but you just don't want the gov't to execute him?
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mugatu
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We just had a big discussion on terminology. Commuted sentence not pardoned. Very different in this case as one involves release to society and the other in this case involves sitting behind bars for the rest of his life.
Nice attempt at deflection. A simple "You know what man, you're right. My bad." would have sufficed.
Agreed 100%
You know what man, you're right. My bad.
mugatu
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Sorry. Yeah. You're right. I remembered you participating and there being a lot of discussion there. Forgot for a bit that the one thing you were against was the use of the word lynch.
I stand by the rest of that post though.
Biden pardoned alot of people, as did Trump, Obama, and every president before them.
Trump pardoned Blackwater guards who murdered Iraqi civilians. Are their crimes any more morally just than what the person we are discussing did?
As to the question you asked, the simple answer is yes. I know it's a morally grey area for me but we are talking about someone who r*ped and murdered children. I don't believe it's the responsibility of the state to extract capital vengeance but it's hard to imagine a more deserving crime if I felt differently. I wouldn't say I'm a fan of prisoners extracting justice as they see fit, but violent criminals do violent things even in prison. I think it's understandable that someone who has nothing to lose would take matters into their own hands here.
You're right. It was silly of me to get caught up in how the press frames their headlines.
In other news evidently people are now internally combusting on subways!
And cars are driving themselves into large groups of people.
Well yes because they were brown.
After seeing his response, well you might be right there.
What response?
Right. Because when there is absolutely no other defense racism is always the default right?
While obviously what happened to the girls is worse, can you imagine the pain of your 9-year-old daughter getting raped and murdered then you get sent to prison for it, and you didn't even do it?
I thought it was a nice touch to do it two days before Christmas. Well done!!
What happened to the dad is horrific. Even the large sum of money he received as compensation for false imprisonment doesn’t come close to taking away his freedom and being thought of the animal that murdered his own daughter.
At least the dad received some minor bit of justice when Torres was convicted for his daughter’s case and already had a federal death sentence. It makes Biden’s actions even more of a head-scratcher. Other than appease the far-left faction of his base…why did Biden do this.
Torres was a serial killer. For that there is no question. He murdered Snell…the case for which he received the death penalty. Attempted to kill and left for dead another woman….and then confessed to raping and murdering the two 8 and 9-year olds.
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mugatu
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While we are talking pardons.
There's the autistic guy in Texas that is on death row for murdering his daughter via shaken baby, that now has a lot of questions about the validity of expert testimony. The Texas gov and Supreme Court has refused to commute or even look at it... but the gov was willing to quickly pardon someone that killed someone at a demonstration after texting friends about planning to do just that.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/...ert Roberson,evidence of shaken baby syndrome.
www.texastribune.org
There's the autistic guy in Texas that is on death row for murdering his daughter via shaken baby, that now has a lot of questions about the validity of expert testimony. The Texas gov and Supreme Court has refused to commute or even look at it... but the gov was willing to quickly pardon someone that killed someone at a demonstration after texting friends about planning to do just that.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/...ert Roberson,evidence of shaken baby syndrome.
Gov. Greg Abbott pardons Daniel Perry, veteran who killed police brutality protester in 2020
A Travis County jury sentenced Perry to 25 years in prison last year, prompting Abbott to ask the state parole board to review his case.
www.texastribune.org
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