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I don't think the Holy Bible should be used to govern our country...what I see in the picture is that some 'Christians' pick and choose which parts of the Bible they want to live by, and each one has their own interpretation as to what the good book says/teaches...
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pick and choose...interpretation...you are talking about affirmative action...what about LGBTQ+ rights? (btw, no need to answer, I know...)
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good lord...the pic that got you excited/bothered was about the gal who doesn't want to deal with couples of the same sex...she is a 'christian' and her Bible tells her that same sex marriages are wrong (I'm paraphrasing), I merely said people pick and choose which parts of the bible to live by and they interpret the bible in whichever way they want to...ok?!...
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YES, it was about the bigoted (some would say religious) Colorado cake gal...below I included the pic with the description (Denver Post)...stop trying to make it about affirmative action...smh...
AP Photo/Andrew Harnik
A person dressed as a bible holds a sign that reads “Use Me Not For Your Bigotry” outside the Supreme Court in Washington, Monday, Dec. 5, 2022. The Supreme Court is hearing the case of a Christian graphic artist who objects to designing wedding websites for gay couples, that’s the latest clash of religion and gay rights to land at the highest court.
Care to share where? I can't seem to remember where same sex marriage is discussed.
PF5
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it's all about interpretations...
Here is a good place to start.
A Christian Perspective on Homosexuality | Reasonable Faith
One of the most volatile and important issues facing the Church today is the question of homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle. The Church cannot duck this question. The...
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In Leviticus 18.22 it says that it is an abomination for a man to lie with another man as with a woman. In Lev. 20.13 the death penalty is prescribed in Israel for such an act, along with adultery, incest, and bestiality. Now sometimes homosexual advocates make light of these prohibitions by comparing them to prohibitions in the Old Testament against having contact with unclean animals like pigs. Just as Christians today don’t obey all of the Old Testament ceremonial laws, so, they say, we don’t have to obey the prohibitions of homosexual actions. But the problem with this argument is that the New Testament reaffirms the validity of the Old Testament prohibitions of homosexual behavior, as we’ll see below. This shows they were not just part of the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament, which were done away with, but were part of God’s everlasting moral law. Homosexual behavior is in God’s sight a serious sin. The third place where homosexual acts are mentioned in the Old Testament is the horrifying story in Genesis 19 of the attempted gang rape of Lot’s visitors by the men of Sodom, from which our word sodomy derives. God destroyed the city of Sodom because of their wickedness.
Now if this weren’t enough, the New Testament also forbids homosexual behavior. In I Cor. 6.9-10 Paul writes, “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God.” The words in the list translated “men who practice homosexuality” refer in Greek literature to the passive and the active partners in male homosexual intercourse. (As I said, the Bible is very realistic!) The second of these two words is also listed in I Tim. 1.10 along with fornicators, slave traders, liars, and murderers as “contrary to the sound teaching of the Gospel.” The most lengthy treatment of homosexual activity comes in Romans 1.24-28. Here Paul talks about how people have turned away from the Creator God and begun to worship instead false gods of their own making. He says,
I can’t believe you are actually using real scripture. Good jobHere is a good place to start.
A Christian Perspective on Homosexuality | Reasonable Faith
One of the most volatile and important issues facing the Church today is the question of homosexuality as an alternative lifestyle. The Church cannot duck this question. The...
In Leviticus 18.22 it says that it is an abomination for a man to lie with another man as with a woman. In Lev. 20.13 the death penalty is prescribed in Israel for such an act, along with adultery, incest, and bestiality. Now sometimes homosexual advocates make light of these prohibitions by comparing them to prohibitions in the Old Testament against having contact with unclean animals like pigs. Just as Christians today don’t obey all of the Old Testament ceremonial laws, so, they say, we don’t have to obey the prohibitions of homosexual actions. But the problem with this argument is that the New Testament reaffirms the validity of the Old Testament prohibitions of homosexual behavior, as we’ll see below. This shows they were not just part of the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament, which were done away with, but were part of God’s everlasting moral law. Homosexual behavior is in God’s sight a serious sin. The third place where homosexual acts are mentioned in the Old Testament is the horrifying story in Genesis 19 of the attempted gang rape of Lot’s visitors by the men of Sodom, from which our word sodomy derives. God destroyed the city of Sodom because of their wickedness.
Now if this weren’t enough, the New Testament also forbids homosexual behavior. In I Cor. 6.9-10 Paul writes, “Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God.” The words in the list translated “men who practice homosexuality” refer in Greek literature to the passive and the active partners in male homosexual intercourse. (As I said, the Bible is very realistic!) The second of these two words is also listed in I Tim. 1.10 along with fornicators, slave traders, liars, and murderers as “contrary to the sound teaching of the Gospel.” The most lengthy treatment of homosexual activity comes in Romans 1.24-28. Here Paul talks about how people have turned away from the Creator God and begun to worship instead false gods of their own making. He says,
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What Does the Bible Say About Homosexuality? Human Rights Campaign
Queer Bible Hermeneutics SMU blog
interpretation!!!
while we're at it:
No tattoos! Leviticus 19:28 — New Living Translation (NLT)
28 “Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the Lord.
Don't eat the wrong food! Leviticus 20:25 -- NLT
25 “You must therefore make a distinction between ceremonially clean and unclean animals, and between clean and unclean birds. You must not defile yourselves by eating any unclean animal or bird or creature that scurries along the ground. I have identified them as being unclean for you.
Be careful of your clothes' material! Leviticus 19:19
“ ‘Keep my decrees. “ ‘Do not mate different kinds of animals. “ ‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. “ ‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.
Don't have a physical disability Leviticus 21:16–21 — The New King James Version (NKJV)
16 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 17 “Speak to Aaron, saying: ‘No man of your descendants in succeeding generations, who has any defect, may approach to offer the bread of his God. 18 For any man who has a defect shall not approach: a man blind or lame, who has a marred face or any limb too long, 19 a man who has a broken foot or broken hand, 20 or is a hunchback or a dwarf, or a man who has a defect in his eye, or eczema or scab, or is a eunuch. 21 No man of the descendants of Aaron the priest, who has a defect, shall come near to offer the offerings made by fire to the Lord. He has a defect; he shall not come near to offer the bread of his God.
Don't be rich! Matthew 19:24 New International Version
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
I could do this all day...
Queer Bible Hermeneutics SMU blog
interpretation!!!
while we're at it:
No tattoos! Leviticus 19:28 — New Living Translation (NLT)
28 “Do not cut your bodies for the dead, and do not mark your skin with tattoos. I am the Lord.
Don't eat the wrong food! Leviticus 20:25 -- NLT
25 “You must therefore make a distinction between ceremonially clean and unclean animals, and between clean and unclean birds. You must not defile yourselves by eating any unclean animal or bird or creature that scurries along the ground. I have identified them as being unclean for you.
Be careful of your clothes' material! Leviticus 19:19
“ ‘Keep my decrees. “ ‘Do not mate different kinds of animals. “ ‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed. “ ‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.
Don't have a physical disability Leviticus 21:16–21 — The New King James Version (NKJV)
16 And the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, 17 “Speak to Aaron, saying: ‘No man of your descendants in succeeding generations, who has any defect, may approach to offer the bread of his God. 18 For any man who has a defect shall not approach: a man blind or lame, who has a marred face or any limb too long, 19 a man who has a broken foot or broken hand, 20 or is a hunchback or a dwarf, or a man who has a defect in his eye, or eczema or scab, or is a eunuch. 21 No man of the descendants of Aaron the priest, who has a defect, shall come near to offer the offerings made by fire to the Lord. He has a defect; he shall not come near to offer the bread of his God.
Don't be rich! Matthew 19:24 New International Version
Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”
I could do this all day...
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Oh, I don’t doubt for a second that you are only going to post pics that you believe support what you are attempting to persuade. Just very interesting, and telling, that some appear to struggle to understand the perspective that the exact same pic could be utilized for another recent SCOTUS case.YES, it was about the bigoted (some would say religious) Colorado cake gal...below I included the pic with the description (Denver Post)...stop trying to make it about affirmative action...smh...
AP Photo/Andrew Harnik
A person dressed as a bible holds a sign that reads “Use Me Not For Your Bigotry” outside the Supreme Court in Washington, Monday, Dec. 5, 2022. The Supreme Court is hearing the case of a Christian graphic artist who objects to designing wedding websites for gay couples, that’s the latest clash of religion and gay rights to land at the highest court.
From my post:
Now sometimes homosexual advocates make light of these prohibitions by comparing them to prohibitions in the Old Testament against having contact with unclean animals like pigs. Just as Christians today don’t obey all of the Old Testament ceremonial laws, so, they say, we don’t have to obey the prohibitions of homosexual actions. But the problem with this argument is that the New Testament reaffirms the validity of the Old Testament prohibitions of homosexual behavior, as we’ll see below. This shows they were not just part of the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament, which were done away with, but were part of God’s everlasting moral law.
By all means, let's do this all day!
PF5
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dude or dudette, you need help...next time I will only post a pic of something I don't support...LOL...keep trying to associate the pic to what you want...move along...
PF5
Ranger
from my post: "I could do this all day"
I could, but I'm not...we will never see eye to eye on this issue...I stand by my "interpretation" stance...you and I can interpret many things in the bible differently, and probably do...good day...
You clearly provided your own interpretation.
"But the problem with this argument is that the New Testament reaffirms the validity of the Old Testament prohibitions of homosexual behavior, as we’ll see below. This shows they were not just part of the ceremonial laws of the Old Testament, which were done away with, but were part of God’s everlasting moral law."
LOL.
