You are correct and I stand corrected. Should have read comprehensively rather than scanning through.
Oklahoma is going backwards
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Schools would NOT have Special Education teachers I’m guessing, just like private schools, but they’ll screen and test children or look at IEP students to prevent them entry and send them back to public schools now without the benefits of Special Ed teachers, or special transportation, or speech therapist, or etc. then grade each school on some A to F scale for comparison to private, just to “prove” that money needs to be taken from public education and (against our state constitution) to religious private schools.
That’s my run on sentence guess.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the DoE is the only reason trump has any "control" on what teams / sports transgender athletes can play? Without the DoE, there couldn't really be a Title IX, right?
I’m not sure that Title IX really has much effect beyond college. The states are responsible for teaching the students of each state. The federal government only supports those things mainly coming through the courts. In our district the federal funds only made up 10-15% of the total budget. Numerous schools have threatened to just give the federal monies back to keep legitimate local control of their schools, rather than giving more power to a federal minority. I’m not sure that tRump has any huge power over public schools, but what he does have IMO he’ll go beyond the laws to cut funding in the biggest a- holeish manner possible. Cut pre-K, school lunches, special education for public schools, etc.
mugatu
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Per Pupil Spending by State 2024
Map shows states that get most federal funding for education
See which states rely most on federal education funding as Trump proposes eliminating the Department of Education.
www.newsweek.com
Oklahoma is publicly funded at $10,479 per student. Oklahoma received $2,330 per student from the federal government.
My understanding is public schools in OK have been underfunded for years. Does the state really want to have to offset the >20% of the average funding schools receive when DOE goes away?
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I'm surprised there is no intention to turn the Dept. of Education into a far Christian right way to fund schools at the national level.Per Pupil Spending by State 2024
worldpopulationreview.com
Map shows states that get most federal funding for education
See which states rely most on federal education funding as Trump proposes eliminating the Department of Education.
Oklahoma is publicly funded at $10,479 per student. Oklahoma received $2,330 per student from the federal government.
My understanding is public schools in OK have been underfunded for years. Does the state really want to have to offset the >20% of the average funding schools receive when DOE goes away?
mugatu
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Don't give them ideas. If I hear about this in a week, I'm blaming you. Haha
They already are. Its called "School Choice".
Stillwater Townie
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What school choice, especially outside of metros? Then there isn't much choice, if any at all. I doubt Baptist parents want to send their kids to a Catholic school.
My wife is a Title 1 teacher (one of the largest districts in the state) and she's already had this discussion with her principal. What he said is that everything is safe through the end of the school year bc those funds are already budgeted and effectively paid for. Next school year though, he's unofficially been told that if federal funds are eliminated the district will do a "staff reduction" and let go all of the lesser experienced Title 1 employees, offer the older ones early retirement packages and then the rest (where my wife falls) will be offered priority on any open classroom teaching positions in the district.
We're REALLY hoping it doesn't come to that because of it does then my wife will probably be leaving education after 15yrs. We're still trying to figure out what she would do because unfortunately we can't afford to live on just my salary.
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If that happens, the state should simply make a withdraw from its $4 billion rainy day fund. If it cuts taxes, it will have to anyway if a recession happens later this year.
The private school lobby ought to step up getting legislators to increase school funding and lift the cap by many millions to make sure more of them can get some, recession or not. I can't think of any other way to motivate Republican legislators to increase funding for education.
As I understand it, the voucher program is just a slush fund for rich people. To take advantage of it, you first have to get your kids enrolled in private school. Who is best able to do that? Rich people.
Ignore the R vs D part of this graphic because I don’t think that has anything to do with it. If we had good, intelligent Republicans in the governor’s office it would not have been so bad, but we’ve had these two….
I just did not realize. Our underperformance in education is quite recent. Wow.
I just did not realize. Our underperformance in education is quite recent. Wow.
I don't think you can completely write off politics in this. 2011 is when Republicans took full control (Gov, House and Senate) and they've held it ever since... Hard to argue that doesn't at least play SOME role.
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Some Republicans just hate public education. Apparently the wealthier crowd deserve tax breaks, and to not spend their hard earned money supporting the ignorant children of less successful financially parents. It’s truly a “ Let them eat cake” type moment and now an official Trump’s Project 2025 movement to destroy public education as we know it.
mugatu
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The question is if they are successful in crushing public education and everything they are trying to do, how does 2026 election go? Do they keep in control or is there a political shake-up because of it?
Sure. And most of it may be Fallin. She was just....awful. I'm just saying I wasn't really paying attention in 2011 (still in college) and didn't realize how much ground has been lost in so short a time. I for some reason assumed Oklahoma was always awful in education.
With a bought and paid for Supreme Court, lie ignoring Congress, and tradition, rules, and laws being violated daily, what makes you believe there will be a future election?
Someone on Twitter earlier called that graphic "false misinformation" because OK was actually ranked in the 30's not in the teens. Since that somehow makes being next to dead last not as bad... I guess...
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