Oklahoma is going backwards

STITT. The politicians announced this. They are the ones acting without analyzing the data.

Reading comprehension. Always your problem.
So your claim is that Stitt is making this decision without doing any analysis.

Since I know you hate Stitt, I am getting more insight to your previous replies. You seem to be making a lot of claims that are more accurately categorized as guesses.
 
So your claim is that Stitt is making this decision without doing any analysis.

Since I know you hate Stitt, I am getting more insight to your previous replies. You seem to be making a lot of claims that are more accurately categorized as guesses.
Let's put it this way, if he has done an analysis, seems that appropriate leadership would be to explain to his constituents that the analysis was done, the findings showed that it is better in whatever way to for everyone to drive to state office buildings and obtaining more office space is worth it.


It is basic change management. He did none of it:
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I don't hate Stitt. I hate how poor of a governor he is. I hate his demagoguery, good ole boy politics, and scandals that get washed away in hie private businesses and state government dealings. And, because I know from your replies that you are a selfish person full of Schadenfreude, it is obvious why you would blindly support a huge policy done by a high level of big government instead of announcing that the state government would see which type of work is best in each department and choose the best use of taxpayer dollars.
 
Yes, I took what you wrote:

There is nothing disingenuous about it. It is literally YOUR EXACT WORDS.
Face it, what you wrote was idiotic. Really dumb. You wanted to argue but had no rational argument, so you made a silly claim about spending money on a study that nobody mentioned.
Mislead, misdirect, mischaracterize.

It’s who HE IS.
 
Since I know you hate Stitt, I am getting more insight to your previous replies. You seem to be making a lot of claims that are more accurately categorized as guesses.
LOL...you basically just described yourself; just change names and emotions on first sentence...you love tRump, Stitt, etc, which gives insight into your posts...the last sentence describes you to a 'T'!
 
LOL...you basically just described yourself; just change names and emotions on first sentence...you love tRump, Stitt, etc, which gives insight into your posts...the last sentence describes you to a 'T'!
I love Trump? Where do you get that? Believe I’ve been on this board for nearly two years. Doubt I have ever had a post even remotely saying, implying, or suggesting I love Trump.

You extremists are humorous. Can’t stand or understand perspectives of people not beholden to either of our main parties.
This thread is a great example of that. You don’t like a return to work directive simply because it comes from Stitt. You are so against Stitt, you push back against utilizing taxpayer funds efficiently and work effectiveness.
 
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Let's put it this way, if he has done an analysis, seems that appropriate leadership would be to explain to his constituents that the analysis was done, the findings showed that it is better in whatever way to for everyone to drive to state office buildings and obtaining more office space is worth it.


It is basic change management. He did none of it:
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I don't hate Stitt. I hate how poor of a governor he is. I hate his demagoguery, good ole boy politics, and scandals that get washed away in hie private businesses and state government dealings. And, because I know from your replies that you are a selfish person full of Schadenfreude, it is obvious why you would blindly support a huge policy done by a high level of big government instead of announcing that the state government would see which type of work is best in each department and choose the best use of taxpayer dollars.
Selfish person? lol.
 
Is it not? I'm not aware of any research on how it impacts productivity one way or the other but I know alot of people who work from home with no issue.

My experience is minimal (just a couple of months during Covid) but I thought it was fine. It was nice to be able to just get up, get dressed and be at work. I'm guessing one of the biggest drawbacks for employers is a concern over productivity but I found the opposite. No commute so no getting stuck in traffic (not that it's a concern where I live), and if something comes up over the weekend your workstation is right there so it doesn't get put off until Monday. Lessons learned from my wfh experience are why I take my laptop home on the weekends. The biggest downside for me was the lack of social interaction. I about cried in May when I went back to the office and actually had face to face conversations with people.

The lack of social interaction, employee integration, and production is all understated. It's not just government; many/most are going back to in office work if they haven't already. Teams meetings are gutless and, in my opinion, a massive waste of time. You can't have a good company culture if your employees don't know each other. Even individually, how good is it for our society to roll out of bed and get on a computer. Get up, get out, do things, socialize.... The remote thing was a temp fix for a pandemic, it was never going to be the new normal.
 
The lack of social interaction, employee integration, and production is all understated. It's not just government; many/most are going back to in office work if they haven't already. Teams meetings are gutless and, in my opinion, a massive waste of time. You can't have a good company culture if your employees don't know each other. Even individually, how good is it for our society to roll out of bed and get on a computer. Get up, get out, do things, socialize.... The remote thing was a temp fix for a pandemic, it was never going to be the new normal.

I will add that I can't speak for Government work. I can tell you that every Architecture/Engineer firm in Tulsa went totally remote and it didn't work. They have slowly reeled back their employees. As a Construction Manager I can tell you that our company would be unfunctional if our office staff worked from home. We have one tenured employee who has moved out of state and has become semi functional ..., but even then, it takes a little more out of everyone else to make that scenario work.

If your job is data entry than I guess you would be just fine sitting home all-day pushing buttons.
 
The lack of social interaction, employee integration, and production is all understated. It's not just government; many/most are going back to in office work if they haven't already. Teams meetings are gutless and, in my opinion, a massive waste of time. You can't have a good company culture if your employees don't know each other. Even individually, how good is it for our society to roll out of bed and get on a computer. Get up, get out, do things, socialize.... The remote thing was a temp fix for a pandemic, it was never going to be the new normal.

I'm very on the fence about it all. I agree that as a social species it is better that we leave the house each day and interact with other people. Hell, just to get some sun. So yeah, company culture may suffer especially in the more people-facing or some other industries. (You posted while I was typing this. A construction company of course can't have people working from home. That's an example.) But I'd disagree that productivity slows in the sectors of the economy where it's viable for people to work from home. I work for the state and I could absolutely do most of my work from home. And I think people may actually have more time to interact with others (friends, family, etc) if they worked from home.

Anyway, I don't know. What I do know is that Stitt is a mortgage banker and Gateway's commercial real estate portfolio may need a boost. He's grandstanding, but this is about his pocketbook.
 
I also think most of the people who are against work-from-home are just going to be old fashioned and afraid of change anyway. The same people who say "this young generation just doesn't want to work!"

You know, like their parents said about them....and their parents said about them....and on and on for the entire history of human civilization.
 
I'm very on the fence about it all. I agree that as a social species it is better that we leave the house each day and interact with other people. Hell, just to get some sun. So yeah, company culture may suffer especially in the more people-facing or some other industries. (You posted while I was typing this. A construction company of course can't have people working from home. That's an example.) But I'd disagree that productivity slows in the sectors of the economy where it's viable for people to work from home. I work for the state and I could absolutely do most of my work from home. And I think people may actually have more time to interact with others (friends, family, etc) if they worked from home.

Anyway, I don't know. What I do know is that Stitt is a mortgage banker and Gateway's commercial real estate portfolio may need a boost. He's grandstanding, but this is about his pocketbook.


Our office has 20+ at any giving time and we are expanding. Believe me when I say we would be non-functional from the house. We have 60+ in the field, obviously that group has to do field stuff.

When I get a point where I can work from home....that's the point I will fear a box located somewhere in Pryor replacing me.

Also, did I mention we build offices? :p
 
Our office has 20+ at any giving time and we are expanding. Believe me when I say we would be non-functional from the house. We have 60+ in the field, obviously that group has to do field stuff.

When I get a point where I can work from home....that's the point I will fear a box located somewhere in Pryor replacing me.

Also, did I mention we build offices? :p
Don't knock Pryor. It's the crown jewel of Mayes County. Haha
 
Perhaps we should realize that there's not a 1 size solution that fits every industry, and every person. Some people work WAY better from home, and some from the office. Some prefer a hybrid. I started working from home full time 11 years ago for 1 job (before I started my restaurants). I love the freedom but also miss the people.
 
Our office has 20+ at any giving time and we are expanding. Believe me when I say we would be non-functional from the house. We have 60+ in the field, obviously that group has to do field stuff.

When I get a point where I can work from home....that's the point I will fear a box located somewhere in Pryor replacing me.

Also, did I mention we build offices? :p
no disrespect, but .... no $h!t some businesses function better in person...while others are just as productive working from home...two of my grown children work(ed) from home, one has to occasionally go into the building for meetings and such. His employer has realized that business did not suffer AT ALL from people working from home (not to mention my kid saves a ton of $$$ on gas and daycare)...the other kid worked from home during COVID, and when the company finally called everyone back to work, after a few months let a bunch of them go because during COVID they had hired more people, business was booming, and then realized they would have to add offices when they required workers to 'come in to work'... anyways, a LOT of jobs can be done from home, with occasional 'building time'...
 
I'm very on the fence about it all. I agree that as a social species it is better that we leave the house each day and interact with other people. Hell, just to get some sun. So yeah, company culture may suffer especially in the more people-facing or some other industries. (You posted while I was typing this. A construction company of course can't have people working from home. That's an example.) But I'd disagree that productivity slows in the sectors of the economy where it's viable for people to work from home. I work for the state and I could absolutely do most of my work from home. And I think people may actually have more time to interact with others (friends, family, etc) if they worked from home.

Anyway, I don't know. What I do know is that Stitt is a mortgage banker and Gateway's commercial real estate portfolio may need a boost. He's grandstanding, but this is about his pocketbook.

Perhaps we should realize that there's not a 1 size solution that fits every industry, and every person. Some people work WAY better from home, and some from the office. Some prefer a hybrid. I started working from home full time 11 years ago for 1 job (before I started my restaurants). I love the freedom but also miss the people.

Whereas I also work for the State and there is absolutely zero way I could do my job remotely. It just wouldn’t work…couldn’t…ever.

There is no 1 size solution for every industry. That is blindingly obvious.

That’s why Stitt’s one size “everybody back to an office” pronouncement exhibits poor leadership and management.
 
no disrespect, but .... no $h!t some businesses function better in person...while others are just as productive working from home...two of my grown children work(ed) from home, one has to occasionally go into the building for meetings and such. His employer has realized that business did not suffer AT ALL from people working from home (not to mention my kid saves a ton of $$$ on gas and daycare)...the other kid worked from home during COVID, and when the company finally called everyone back to work, after a few months let a bunch of them go because during COVID they had hired more people, business was booming, and then realized they would have to add offices when they required workers to 'come in to work'... anyways, a LOT of jobs can be done from home, with occasional 'building time'...

I got no desire to do it. It would drive me freaking nuts to sit at home and stare at a screen and host teams meetings all day long. Talking about living in the freaking matrix. Barf.
 
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