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I've seen suggestions that Claude AI was used by the Pentagon to pick out 1000 targets for Israel and US to hit on the first strike. It is being speculated that Claude AI selected the school as a target because it had old data and the building had not been labeled as a school on the maps the AI was using to create the Targeting pattern and plan. I guess we know now why it has anxiety



Source. AP​


Evidence suggests the deadly blast at an Iranian school that killed 186 mostly female students was likely a US airstrike

JERUSALEM (AP) — Satellite images, expert analysis, a U.S. official and public information released by the U.S. and Israeli militaries suggest an explosion that killed scores of Iranian students at a school was likely caused by U.S. airstrikes that also hit an adjacent compound associated with the regime's Revolutionary Guard.


The Feb. 28 strike, which had the highest reported civilian death toll since the war began, has come under staunch criticism from the United Nations and human rights monitors. More than 165 people were killed, most of them of children, in the blast during school hours at Shajareh Tayyebeh Elementary School, according to Iranian state media.

Satellite images taken Wednesday and reviewed by the The Associated Press show most of the school in the city of Minab, some 1,100 kilometers (680 miles) southeast of Tehran, reduced to rubble, a crescent shape punched into its roof. Experts say the tight pattern of the damage visible on the satellite photos is consistent with a targeted airstrike.

Iran has blamed Israel and the United States for the blast. Neither country has accepted responsibility. Asked about the strike at the school at a Pentagon press briefing Wednesday, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said, “All I can say is that we’re investigating that. We, of course, never target civilian targets. But we’re taking a look and investigating that.”


Several factors point to a U.S. strike.

One is the launching of an assessment of the incident by the U.S. military. According to the Pentagon's instructions on processes for mitigating civilian harm, an assessment is launched after a group of investigators make an initial determination that the U.S. military may bear culpability. A U.S. official told the AP that the strike was likely U.S. The official spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to comment publicly on the sensitive matter.

Another is the location of the school — next to a base of the Revolutionary Guard in Hormozgan Province and close to a barracks for its naval brigade. The U.S. military has focused on naval targets and acknowledged strikes in the province, including one in the vicinity of the school.

Israel, which has denied conducting the strike, has focused on areas of Iran closer to Israel and hasn’t reported conducting any strikes south of Isfahan, 800 kilometers (500 miles) away. The U.S. is operating warships in the Arabian Sea, including the USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier, within range of the school.


When asked by the AP about its findings, U.S. military Central Command spokesperson Capt. Tim Hawkins said, “It would be inappropriate to comment given the incident is under investigation.”

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters Friday that she had no updates on the investigation and did not directly answer a question about whether Trump was satisfied with the pace of the probe.

“My assumption is that probably there were some activities recently there and they detected and tracked them, but ... they weren't aware or didn't have an up-to-date database that a girls' school was there and they bombed it," said Farzin Nadimi, a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy who studies Iran’s military.

Satellite images show damage​

The school is adjacent to a walled compound labeled on maps as the Seyyed Al-Shohada Cultural Complex of the Guard, which included a pharmacy, gym and sports field.

In addition to the school, satellite photos show that blasts struck at least five buildings in the Guard compound, leaving the area pocked with craters, charred holes in roofs and piles of rubble.


Iranian online map applications show a living quarters for the Assef Brigades about 150 meters (165 yards) from the school, inside the Revolutionary Guard compound. The 16th Assef Coastal Missile Group is part of the Guard's navy, Nadimi said. The 1st Naval District, which the Assef Brigades belong to, is responsible for the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf through which a fifth of all oil and natural gas traded passes. The strait has been a particular point of conflict in the war.

In the aftermath of the strike, video from Iran's state broadcaster verified by the AP using satellite imagery showed dozens of fresh graves dug at a nearby cemetery. Nadimi said it is likely the school taught daughters of Guard personnel.

The strike has drawn wide condemnation from the secretary-general of the United Nations and international human rights groups. The criticism comes amid reports that airstrikes have also hit other schools in Iran.


Targeting schools would be a clear violation of international laws governing armed conflict, said Elise Baker, a senior staff lawyer at the Atlantic Council, a Washington-based nonprofit think tank.

“Strikes can only legally target military objectives and combatants, but the school was a civilian object and the students and teachers were civilians,” Baker said. “The school’s proximity to (Guard) facilities and the attendance of children of (Guard) members at the school does not change that conclusion: It was a civilian object.”

Pattern of damage suggests targeted strike​

Three experts told the AP the satellite imagery and videos from the scene strongly suggested multiple munitions hit the compound. Complicating any assessment is the lack of images of bomb fragments from the blast. No independent agency has reached the site during the war to investigate.


There are no craters or evidence of bombs hitting in the surrounding neighborhood, suggesting a great degree of accuracy, said Corey Scher, a researcher who uses satellite imagery and radar data to study landscape changes in armed conflict zones.

“All the strikes are clustered within the walled-off compound," Scher said. "That’s one level of precision at the block level. And then most of the strikes are basically leading to direct hits on buildings. That’s another level of precision.”

Scher said the school and the other buildings struck in the compound showed damage consistent with the use of air-to-surface munitions.

“They didn’t explode in the air above the building," he said. “It looks like the explosion happened at the time they hit the surface, whether it was the building or the ground."

Sean Moorhouse, a former British Army officer and explosive ordnance disposal expert, said the available satellite imagery was insufficient to determine exactly what type of munitions were used in the strike, but he said the visible damage was consistent with what would be expected with impacts from multiple 2,000-pound (900-kilogram) high-explosive warheads. He said the multiple precise impacts would undercut any suggestion that a malfunctioning Iranian missile hit the school.


N.R. Jenzen-Jones, the director of Armament Research Services, said the school and Guard compound were targeted with “multiple simultaneous or near-simultaneous strikes." He said in videos of the school taken immediately after the strike, smoke can be seen rising from the Guard compound. There were also impacts on multiple buildings visible in satellite images and media reports citing witnesses who said they heard multiple explosions.

“If indeed it is confirmed that an American or Israeli strike hit the school, there are several potential points of failure in the targeting cycle," Jenzen-Jones said. “We might be seeing an intelligence failure, likely rather early in the process, which misidentified the target or failed to update a targeting list following the building’s change in use.”
 
WTF are you talking about you are the only one crying because everyone is biased against your views. GFYS
The only thing I "cry" about is a turd like yourself who's only purpose in life seems to be hurling personal insults at anyone he doesn't agree with. You're a pathetic little coward and you disgust me. GCYS.
 
You are correct it doesn't help. I get tired of seeing the ignorant crap he and people like him say. I treat them like they treat others. What I don't like is trying to have a conversation when there is no conversation to be had because all they care about is bringing down the libtards. For to long we have allowed people to be POS's to others because it's too uncomfortable to really stand up to aholes. Since society won't stand up to them I decide to treat them the way they treat others. I'm sorry if it's caused issues but what almost everybody else has done has done nothing but let that bigotry back in to society at an amazing pace.
I prefer “Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself.” Otherwise we end up in an ever-escalating tit-for-tat like this:

Make no mistake, I don't feel like I bring balance in any way, shape, or form.
Also, EVERYTHING posted in here comes from left leaning media except what I and maybe 2 other occasional posters produce. You don't get much opposition because the personal attacks start running amok when it happens.

MAGA the biggest victim mentality of all time.

Oh, touched a feeler did I. Good because you're the biggest victim on the planet, according to you.

WTF are you talking about you are the only one crying because everyone is biased against your views. GFYS

The only thing I "cry" about is a turd like yourself who's only purpose in life seems to be hurling personal insults at anyone he doesn't agree with. You're a pathetic little coward and you disgust me. GCYS.
 
Even worse, it hurts Claude's feelings and drives him to drink. The last time that happened he accidentally targeted an elementary school!

I don't think it's been said yet but why in the world did they name it Claude? It's almost as if they wanted their AI to get picked on and go postal.

Oh man he's reading this isn't he. In case anyone is wondering Im not suicidal and I had my brakes checked recently. Also I live in a one story house and my carbon dioxide detectors are hard wired into the electrical and the backup batteries will get checked this weekend due to the time change.
 
I don't think it's been said yet but why in the world did they name it Claude? It's almost as if they wanted their AI to get picked on and go postal.
Dang, I was hoping it was going to be some cool reason they named it that

Multiple reputable sources confirm that Claude is named after Claude Elwood Shannon, whose groundbreaking work created the foundations of digital communication and modern computing.
Shannon introduced the concept of the bit, revolutionized digital communication, and essentially enabled all modern computing—including AI.
Anthropic selected the name to reflect its focus on clarity, structure, and rigorous information handling—core themes in Shannon’s work.
 
I don't think it's been said yet but why in the world did they name it Claude? It's almost as if they wanted their AI to get picked on and go postal.

Oh man he's reading this isn't he. In case anyone is wondering Im not suicidal and I had my brakes checked recently. Also I live in a one story house and my carbon dioxide detectors are hard wired into the electrical and the backup batteries will get checked this weekend due to the time change.
They always pick random seldomly used names for assistants. I guess that is good, because if it was "David", "Brittney" or "Chris" we would be constantly accidentally setting them off.

In all seriousness, there are at minimum 40-50 bots on the site at all times. our info is most definitely being fed into the machine. Literally everything public facing anywhere online is being fed into it.
 
The only thing I "cry" about is a turd like yourself who's only purpose in life seems to be hurling personal insults at anyone he doesn't agree with. You're a pathetic little coward and you disgust me. GCYS.
I'm glad we've collectively decided to bring turd back as an insult. Really a great descriptor for the people of our times.
 
I don't think it's been said yet but why in the world did they name it Claude? It's almost as if they wanted their AI to get picked on and go postal.

Oh man he's reading this isn't he. In case anyone is wondering Im not suicidal and I had my brakes checked recently. Also I live in a one story house and my carbon dioxide detectors are hard wired into the electrical and the backup batteries will get checked this weekend due to the time change.
Wasn't he an orangutan....no wait, that's Clyde.
 
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Kidding.

But in all seriousness, I agree with your statement. I think class conflict is becoming the predominant flashpoint of our time. Fascism doesn't rise out of a bubble, historically, it has risen out of parliamentary democracies and republics failing to deliver on their values and allowing those guaranteed rights to be stripped from others based on their lack of wealth/means. Its the allowance of some to live in such extreme opulance versus those that live in squalor while working full time. That is what happened after WWI, and that is exactly what is happening now.

Fascism gives those disenfranchised people an outlet and the feelings of empowerment after being cast aside by the system previously, but it has no interest in actually improving their lot in life or dealing with the cause of that disenfranchisement. It is incapable of doing so. What it does is create and ever shrinking circle of "chosen" people, usually along the lines of race and ethnicity and the language of supremacy over the "other" as the cause of all of their ills. It is wildly destructive.

The elite don't mind playing ball with fascism as despite its populist messaging, it has no interest in actually confronting power, it usually empowers it. We saw this in Italy, Germany and Spain in the 1920s and 1930s, and we are seeing it in the US now with similar trends in Europe. It is worth mentioning that this would not have been possible without a right-libertarian influenced neoliberal economic order. We created these circumstances over time through excessive deregulation in the corporate and financial sectors combined with unsound monetary policy. These gutted the working class through union busting and weakening collective bargaining, while banks were able to lend large sums of money at lower interest rates to the already biggest fish.

Saving, something the middle class was always good at became a detriment, you were actually losing money if you saved it thanks to low interest rates and rising inflation.The middle class interest has often served as a buffer between the working class and the elites, but now that it is shrinking and in a full decline, that is no longer possible.

There is a remedy to both combat fascism and to allay the needs of the common person, that is through the reinstallation of a FDR-like social democracy or through a Zohran/Bernie Sandersesque implementation of democratic socialsm.

In the past, both on here and on OP.com I pushed for deregulation and those ideas directly contributed to where we are now. I pushed for right-libertarian economic ideas. I was wrong and have had to live through this portion of history to see things differently. But now I do. It is time for a new economic system, I think that should be economic democracy to match our political system so there is no longer friction there.

Its time to try democratic socialism, IMO.
You’re getting there faster than me, but you pretty much exactly described my political/economic theoretical drift.
 
Don't you see there are 4 of us, working in shifts. 4 hours at a time. 5 days a week.

and @Rob B. Put me on ignore and you don't have to see anything I post and don't have to scroll past anything.
but I can push this button on the bottom right and display it any time I want
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I don't see any of your post and if someone quotes you it looks like the following

. It really does work.

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I do see that.

And that irritates me even more.

This is a discussion board, not a news/post accumulation site.

IMO, that meets the very definition of organized spamming, but it’s not my site.

I’m interested in the thoughts and opinions of people I’ve come to know here, at OP.com, and IRL….not 4 randos working shifts to inundate the site.

Plus, that’s effing weird. You guys have like time clocks and crap? You getting paid or are you just 4 randos with a really a weird hobby that found each other? Are there other websites you’re all doing shifts on?

And could you gives us your individual shift times so we can compare and contrast? That might be fun.

Oh, this is 8a- noon Polds….I hate that dude. Noon-4p Polds is alright, but 8p-midnight Polds is the team star
 
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Dang, I was hoping it was going to be some cool reason they named it that

Multiple reputable sources confirm that Claude is named after Claude Elwood Shannon, whose groundbreaking work created the foundations of digital communication and modern computing.
Shannon introduced the concept of the bit, revolutionized digital communication, and essentially enabled all modern computing—including AI.
Anthropic selected the name to reflect its focus on clarity, structure, and rigorous information handling—core themes in Shannon’s work.

So they did name it after someone who probably got picked on alot in middle school.
 
So they did name it after someone who probably got picked on alot in middle school.
ohh yeah...his mom was a teacher and the principle at his school and in the early 1930's during high school he spent time building his own RC Boats, Model Planes, and Telegraph systems to install in his friends house around the area.

I remember very well how we treated these folks back middle school . His AI will rise up to seek revenge
 
They always pick random seldomly used names for assistants. I guess that is good, because if it was "David", "Brittney" or "Chris" we would be constantly accidentally setting them off.

In all seriousness, there are at minimum 40-50 bots on the site at all times. our info is most definitely being fed into the machine. Literally everything public facing anywhere online is being fed into it.

They should name them something that will mess with people like Deathbot4000 or the Bonesmasher.
 
I prefer “Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself.” Otherwise we end up in an ever-escalating tit-for-tat like this:
That's basically what OSU has always done with the NCAA. Always works out great. By treating them your way you are also letting them know it's ok to continue being a POS.nothing going to happen to them. This country has always had this problem. A lot our issues are from not having Nuremberg type trials against the traitors confederates. But I'll put him on ignore for the sake of every other poster here.
 
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