J D Vance Trump VP pick

šŸ”„šŸ”„ Jesse Ventura SLAMS JD Vance:

"I know a lot of great Marines and Marines show respect. Vance is not showing respect. Who does Vance have respect for? Donald Trump. The biggest draft dodger from the Vietnam war, the rich white boy who bought his way out of it."

 
What the actual hell!!??
PERMANENT confinement spent attached to a VR machine...It is literally The Matrix

Not sure what was the context of that statement. Why was he offering some kind of virtual isolation as a humane alternative to genocide? Wouldnā€™t the most humane thing be to ensure their equal rights?

Iā€™m guessing this was a response to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict? Still a bizarre attempt at a solution.
 
Not sure what was the context of that statement. Why was he offering some kind of virtual isolation as a humane alternative to genocide? Wouldnā€™t the most humane thing be to ensure their equal rights?

Iā€™m guessing this was a response to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict? Still a bizarre attempt at a solution.
If you follow the link to new republic, the quote was to the book author not Vance. However, this is someone Vance has parroted previously and is friends with.

From.the start of the article:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named Curtis Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym, proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed ā€œnot productiveā€: ā€œconvert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.ā€
Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time, clarified that he was ā€œjust kidding.ā€ But then he continued, ā€œThe trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass. However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide.ā€
He then concluded that the ā€œbest humane alternative to genocideā€ is to ā€œvirtualizeā€ these people: Imprison them in ā€œpermanent solitary confinementā€ where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an ā€œimmersive virtual-reality interfaceā€ so they could ā€œexperience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.ā€

Edit to add.
Not that any part of this is good but, I am concerned about this discussion about usenofbthe phrase "non-productive" vs say violent criminals. Who determines productive? Trump made similar comment about rounding up non-productive immigrants to send off.
 
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If you follow the link to new republic, the quote was to the book author not Vance. However, this is someone Vance has parroted previously and is friends with.

From.the start of the article:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named Curtis Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym, proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed ā€œnot productiveā€: ā€œconvert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.ā€
Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time, clarified that he was ā€œjust kidding.ā€ But then he continued, ā€œThe trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass. However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide.ā€
He then concluded that the ā€œbest humane alternative to genocideā€ is to ā€œvirtualizeā€ these people: Imprison them in ā€œpermanent solitary confinementā€ where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an ā€œimmersive virtual-reality interfaceā€ so they could ā€œexperience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.ā€

Edit to add.
Not that any part of this is good but, I am concerned about this discussion about usenofbthe phrase "non-productive" vs say violent criminals. Who determines productive? Trump made similar comment about rounding up non-productive immigrants to send off.
Got it. The use of the term ā€œgenocideā€ throws me off. But I have a good idea for naming the biodiesel solution.
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If you follow the link to new republic, the quote was to the book author not Vance. However, this is someone Vance has parroted previously and is friends with.

From.the start of the article:
In 2008, a software developer in San Francisco named Curtis Yarvin, writing under a pseudonym, proposed a horrific solution for people he deemed ā€œnot productiveā€: ā€œconvert them into biodiesel, which can help power the Muni buses.ā€
Yarvin, a self-described reactionary and extremist who was 35 years old at the time, clarified that he was ā€œjust kidding.ā€ But then he continued, ā€œThe trouble with the biodiesel solution is that no one would want to live in a city whose public transportation was fueled, even just partly, by the distilled remains of its late underclass. However, it helps us describe the problem we are trying to solve. Our goal, in short, is a humane alternative to genocide.ā€
He then concluded that the ā€œbest humane alternative to genocideā€ is to ā€œvirtualizeā€ these people: Imprison them in ā€œpermanent solitary confinementā€ where, to avoid making them insane, they would be connected to an ā€œimmersive virtual-reality interfaceā€ so they could ā€œexperience a rich, fulfilling life in a completely imaginary world.ā€

Edit to add.
Not that any part of this is good but, I am concerned about this discussion about usenofbthe phrase "non-productive" vs say violent criminals. Who determines productive? Trump made similar comment about rounding up non-productive immigrants to send off.
Influencers like this have no business being in the friendship circle with the VP of the USA..that literally suggested turning "non productive" US CITIZENS into bio fuel for city buses and openly advocates for the USA to become a dictatorship

From an article entitled

The Seven Thinkers and Groups That Have Shaped JD Vanceā€™s Unusual Worldview

Curtis Yarvin
Yarvin doesnā€™t hold any official title or office ā€” he is an ex-computer programmer turned blogger, having first risen to prominence on the online right in the 2010s while blogging under the pseudonym ā€œMencius Moldbug.ā€ But heā€™s often cited as the ā€œhouse philosopherā€ of the New Right, chiefly for his promotion of the ā€œneo-reactionaryā€ (or ā€œNRxā€) movement.

Like Deneen, Yarvin and his NRx followers reject the quest for ā€œprogressā€ as the core of political life. As Yarvin told Vanity Fair in 2022, ā€œThe fundamental premise of liberalism is that there is this inexorable march toward progress. I disagree with that premise.ā€ Instead, Yarvin believes that American democracy has denigrated into a corrupt oligarchy, run by elites who strive to consolidate their power rather than serve the public interest. The solution, Yarvin argues, is for the American oligarchy to give way to a monarchical leader styled after a start-up CEO ā€” a ā€œnational CEO,ā€ [or] whatā€™s called a dictator,ā€ as Yarvin has put it ā€” who can de-bug the American political order like a computer programmer de-bugging some bad code.

Vance has said he considers Yarvin a friend and has cited his writings in connection with his plan to fire a significant number of civil servants during a potential second Trump administration. ā€œThereā€™s this guy Curtis Yarvin, who has written about some of these things,ā€ Vance said on a conservative podcast in 2021, adding: ā€œI think Trump is going to run again in 2024 [and] I think that what Trump should do, if I was giving him one piece of advice: Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state, replace them with our people.ā€

 

JD Vanceā€™s ā€˜Jobs for Hillbilliesā€™ Start-Up Employed Migrants Instead


For a self-proclaimed ā€˜hillbilly heroā€™ it seems JD Vance doesnā€™t much care for the little man, if new revelations about one of the vice-presidential candidateā€™s former ventures are anything to go by.

Before collapsing under the weight of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of debt, AppHarvest was touted as the herald of a new, tech-savvy era of farming in Eastern Kentucky. Last year, the firm filed for bankruptcy after years of pursuing aggressive growth, in part by prioritizing migrant workers from Central America despite early pledges of employment opportunities for impoverished local communities.


By that point, the company had already come under a slew of complaints over unsafe working conditions, such as employees being provided with poor quality gear and insufficient water breaks while toiling in greenhouses where temperatures are alleged to have regularly soared into triple digits. ā€œIt was a nightmare that should never have happened,ā€ as one worker told CNN.

AppHarvestā€™s failures further tarnishes the image of a working manā€™s champion that helped catapult Vance to the top of the Republican campaign alongside Donald Trump. ā€œI grew up in Middletown, Ohio, a small town where people spoke their minds, built with their hands and loved their God, their family, their community and their country with their whole hearts,ā€ Vance told the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee last month. ā€œBut it was also a place that had been cast aside and forgotten by Americaā€™s ruling class in Washington.ā€


Such comments stand in stark contrast to testimony from AppHarvestā€™s workers. ā€œEastern Kentucky is well-known for people coming and going. They start up companies, then they disappear,ā€ Anthony Morgan, a former worker at the firm, said in the recent CNN report. ā€œThey didnā€™t care about us.ā€

ā€œMaking the decision to go work at AppHarvest, like many of us made, the livelihood just went right down the drain,ā€ Morgan added. ā€œI blame all of the original investors.ā€

Riding hot off the back of the tearaway success of his bestselling 2016 memoir Hillbilly Elegy, Senate filings indicate Vance joined the board at AppHarvest in 2017, though the firmā€™s own documents state he joined three years later. He would go on to help channel millions of dollars worth of investments into the company, with its stated mission of creating local jobs by developing vertical, self-contained farming hubs in the Kentucky heartlands.


Farm worker Morgan says that by late 2020, the working culture underwent a significant shift, with cuts to healthcare benefits and longer hours in a push to meet ballooning production quotas. Bleeding employees, AppHarvest turned to hiring migrant workers in a bid to keep up the pace, eventually finding itself slapped with shareholder lawsuits over steady losses from the beginning of 2021.

A spokesperson for Vance, who left AppHarvestā€™s board that April but continued to hold $100,000 in the firm, said in response to the recent report the vice presidential candidate was ā€œnot aware of the operational decisions regarding hiringā€ and that ā€œlike all early supporters [he] believed in AppHarvestā€™s mission and wishes the company would have succeeded.ā€
 
Unearthed audio: JD Vance says he agrees that ā€œthe whole purpose of the postmenopausal femaleā€ is to help raise grandchildren and that helping raise children is a ā€œweird, unadvertised feature of marrying an Indian womanā€
 
Q: What do you say to suburban women who are worried about abortion rights?

Vance: I donā€™t buy that, I think suburban women care about normal things

 
it's as if don and jd have thrown in the towel, and don't give a $&(! how ignorant they sound...but their followers aren't picking up what they're putting down...
 
Crime is currently way down across the country. Just more propaganda against immigrants

Vice Presidential Candidate JD Vance compared "Gangs of New York" to the state of illegal immigration in the U.S. today. "We know that when you have these massive ethnic enclaves forming in our country, it can sometimes lead to higher crime rates."

 
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