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Netanyahu said prisoner swap idea has been discussed in cabinet (BBC)​

We reported just now that Hamas has offered exchanging the more than 220 hostages they kidnapped on 7 October in exchange for the release of all the Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.
Israel's PM Benjamin Netanyahu commented on this earlier at a news conference.
He said the idea of a swap deal involving hostages for prisoners had been discussed within the Israeli war cabinet but declined to give details about specifics, saying this would be counterproductive.
More from our correspondent Paul Adams in Jerusalem in a moment on the hostages and how Israel's leadership is coming under fresh pressure to secure their release as ground operations intensify.
 
I’ve noticed that Israel, the Palestinians, Saudi, Iran and the rest of the regional players are ALL non secular groups.

Each group has allowed or were coerced into having not just political leadership but also mixed with religious leadership. Listening not to the political message but listening to their religious leaders and their subordinates, a person like me exists solely for one sides discretion by God, to serve their interests. The other, hates me unless I submit. I’m less than “nothing” according to the more vocal ones.

Why should I care?

I do. But why?

I feel sorry for the kids.

As a parent, my job is to protect my children. If a group of people believe I don’t have the right to life, I’m not building and occupying on land that they perceive to be their own.

If I was born in a slum and had children, I’d do whatever I could to get out. Particularly if there’s a group in that slum trying to provoke a war. Even more particularly, if they were making tv and school programs about sacrificing my children in that war.

Then the problem itself. Why are the upper echelons of Palestinian militia so rich in a slum? They’re not keeping the aid money are they? Why won’t Jordan stop tear gassing them? Why won’t Egypt open the door. Why not should Qatar, UAE, and Saudi used the oil funds to absorb these people?

Turkey is beside itself chomping at the bit. Because all of their domestic populations at this moment are all on the same point. UNITED. Suddenly, Erodagan enjoys high support for a guy that fought tooth and nail to keep his position after all the corruption.

If it weren’t for the kids being used as pawns by all sides, I’d wish them all to hell.
 
Lots of discussions about the last attack on Israel.

It’s so savage.

Well, that’s how downtrodden the Palestinians are, you’d celebrate too.

What’s amazing are the reactions around the country and world. So many willing instigate violence against strangers. So many hating on strangers. And they’ve never even been to the Middle East. The videos out of NYC show people that act like they couldn’t find the ME on a map, let alone name any facts about their respective side.


The pandemic really opened my eyes to just how ignorant our top government and educational leadership really are. I knew it was bad, I just didn’t realize how deep the willful ignorance can go.

Now, my eyes are open to just how much hate, a seemingly normal person carry’s with them everyday. Yikes!
 

Summary (BBC)​

  1. Doctors and the Palestinian Red Crescent in Gaza say Israel has told them to evacuate a key hospital in Gaza City
  2. There are 400 patients being treated inside Al-Quds hospital and moving them is impossible, the Palestinian Red Cross says
  3. Around 14,000 civilians are also understood to be sheltering in the hospital and its grounds
  4. Overnight, thousands in Gaza broke into aid depots taking flour and other basic supplies, the UN relief agency for Palestinian refugees says
  5. Phone lines and internet connections are slowly returning after more than a day of almost total communications blackout in Gaza
  6. The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) say more troops entered the territory overnight, while warplanes attacked more than 450 Hamas targets
  7. Israel has been bombing Gaza since the 7 October Hamas attacks that killed 1,400 people and saw 230 people kidnapped as hostages
  8. The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says more than 8,000 people have been killed since Israel's retaliatory bombing began
 

Moving patients means killing them, says Palestinian Red Crescent​


In a video statement shared on social media, the Palestinian Red Crescent says it doesn’t have the means to evacuate Al-Quds hospital in northern Gaza, as apparently directed by the Israeli authorities.
“We have over 400 patients who are inside the hospital, many of them are in the intensive care unit. Evacuating them means killing them. That’s why we refuse the evacuation order,” a representative of the group says.
“We call on the international community to intervene immediately to stop a humanitarian catastrophe that is unfolding.”
She says there are also more than 14,000 civilians seeking shelter at the hospital.
The Israeli military has not commented on the apparent evacuation order.

WHO deeply concerned by Gaza hospital evacuation reports​

Doctors and the Palestinian Red Crescent working at the Al-Quds hospital in northern Gaza said earlier today that they had been told by the Israeli military to evacuate immediately.
A message, translated by BBC staff, is addressed to "Al-Quds Hospital staff, ambulance drivers and displaced people in schools".
It tells them to leave the area immediately, and relocate to the "humanitarian zone in the south".
The director-general of the World Health Organization, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, says the reports are deeply concerning.
"We reiterate - it's impossible to evacuate hospitals full of patients without endangering their lives," he said in a post on X.
"Under International Humanitarian Law, healthcare must always be protected."
Israel's military has not commented.
 
There is a guy with a knife and there is a guy that lost his head. I side with the one who lost his head
 
There is a guy with a knife and there is a guy that lost his head. I side with the one who lost his head
The pendulum would say there’s a guy with a bomber and there’s a guy that lost his family and home. I side with the one that lost his family.
 
I don't understand why people can be consumed by so much religious hatred. I don't care if Jews think Jesus was a fairy tale. If they go to Hell for believing that, then it's not my personal problem. I also don't care if Muslims believe that Muhammed, rather than Jesus was their saving hero. I guess how I think has to with my parents, who weren't church going religious, not caring much either. Maybe they were kind of innocent as to why to hate and passed it on to me. It helps explain why I don't care much about organized religion. Why must there be so many thousands of religions under one God? I just care that there really must be a God of creation to explain the origin of mysteries from the tiny particles that revolve around the atom to the vastness of the universe. But don't add to the mystery and complexity by asking where God came from. We may always be too human, too ignorant and too hateful to ever know.
 
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What do you do when you can’t govern…. Get us in another trillion dollar war we can’t win!!!!
 
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Here’s a look in numbers at the toll of the war as of Oct. 29, sourced from the Gaza Health Ministry and Israeli officials as well as international observers and aid groups:

1,400 - Number of people killed in Israel


8,005 - Number of Palestinians killed in Gaza


116 - Number of Palestinians killed in West Bank


5,431 - Number of Israelis injured


20,242 - Number of Palestinians injured in Gaza


2,000 - Number of Palestinians injured in the West Bank


250,000 - Number of Israelis displaced


1.4 million - Number of Palestinians displaced in Gaza


239 - Soldiers and civilians being held hostage in Gaza


4 - Hostages released


117 - Aid trucks let into Gaza


27,781 - Residential units destroyed in Gaza

 
apnews

Here’s a look in numbers at the toll of the war as of Oct. 29, sourced from the Gaza Health Ministry and Israeli officials as well as international observers and aid groups:


1,400 - Number of people killed in Israel


8,005 - Number of Palestinians killed in Gaza


116 - Number of Palestinians killed in West Bank


5,431 - Number of Israelis injured


20,242 - Number of Palestinians injured in Gaza


2,000 - Number of Palestinians injured in the West Bank


250,000 - Number of Israelis displaced


1.4 million - Number of Palestinians displaced in Gaza


239 - Soldiers and civilians being held hostage in Gaza


4 - Hostages released


117 - Aid trucks let into Gaza


27,781 - Residential units destroyed in Gaza

This is the result of terrorism...terrorist attack democratic powerhouses and they respond with a devastating counter offensive. See the US response to 9/11 as example.... Israel response is miniscule in scale



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This is the result of terrorism...terrorist attack democratic powerhouses and they respond with a devastating counter offensive. See the US response to 9/11 as example.... Israel response is miniscule in scale



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So your justification of this offensive is that the US killed more people? Christ man, you have lost all perspective on this.
 
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