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  1. EU leaders are calling for "pauses" in fighting between Israel and Hamas to allow aid into Gaza
  2. They say "rapid, safe, and unhindered" access is needed, as 27 EU nations express "gravest concern for the humanitarian situation" on the ground
  3. The UN's top humanitarian official says aid is "barely trickling" into Gaza, after days of warnings over rapidly depleting fuel supplies
  4. Martin Griffiths says civilians must have the essentials to survive. Israel disputes the extent of the fuel crisis - and accuses Hamas of stockpiling vital reserves
  5. UN aid agencies say they have begun to significantly reduce their operations in Gaza because they have almost exhausted their fuel reserves
  6. Meanwhile, Hamas says about 50 hostages being held in Gaza have been killed as a result of Israel bombarding the Strip in retaliation to Hamas's 7 October attack
  7. More than 1,400 were killed in the initial attacks on Israel by Hamas, and Israel says more than 220 people are still being held hostage in Gaza
  8. The Hamas-run health ministry says 7,000 people have been killed since Israeli air strikes on Gaza began - an increase of 500 since Wednesday
 

World Health Organization says more than 40% of those killed in Gaza are children​


UN aid agencies today offered an ever more desperate picture of life inside Gaza, with the World Health Organization reporting 7,028 deaths, more than 40% of whom are children. The WHO cited data from the Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza and said it had received significant detail about those killed.
There have been 18,482 injuries, the WHO said, again a significant proportion of them are children. The agency said 23 of 35 hospitals were still partially functioning - others, as well as community clinics, have had to close.
The WHO says 1,000 people in Gaza need dialysis, 30 premature babies are in incubators and 2,000 cancer patients need urgent treatment. All of this becomes impossible without fuel to run hospital generators.
A WHO official spoke of desperate conditions inside the hospitals which are still functioning, with seriously injured patients being operated on in corridors with no anaesthetic, and "the smell of death" and "bodies of children" everywhere.
 

Closer look: How do we know how many people have died in Gaza​

The World Health Organization (WHO) says more than 7,028 people have now been killed in Gaza and, as reported in my previous post, that 41% of them are children.
There have been questions about how the WHO gets these figures since its own ability to work inside Gaza is highly restricted - plus there are suggestions that Hamas, who run the health ministry in Gaza, may be exaggerating the numbers.
Today the WHO’s representative in its office for the West Bank and Gaza, Richard Peeperkorn, explained that the WHO, in any conflict, emergency, or disease outbreak, relies on the local health authorities to provide statistics.
He said the WHO had received a list of 6,747 names and registration numbers of those who had died, and an additional figure - 281 - of bodies which had yet to be identified. He also said there were indications that many more people had died, but could not be counted because they remained under the rubble.
In a sign of impatience with the frequent questioning about the reliability of figures that come from Hamas, Dr Peeperkorn said he found the discussion somewhat "cynical" and asked if views would change if the deaths were 1,000 less or 1,000 more.
He also explained that the WHO has, over the years, worked regularly with the authorities in Gaza to record births, deaths, and immunisations - and these figures had proved reliable.
 
Think you are not looking at correct Abbas quote.
His direct quote was “I would not call it apartheid” when asked about the label from Amnesty International. Unless you are claiming the AP misquoted him.

I see what you are referencing and my apologies, it appears my assertion was incorrect. I don't think one guy (Abbas) speaks for the Palestinian people.
 
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  1. The top UN official providing aid to Palestinian refugees in Gaza says people there "feel shunned, alienated and abandoned"
  2. Large explosions have been seen in Gaza, with rocket fire also seen coming out of the Strip
  3. There were also problems with internet connectivity in the territory, monitors reported on Friday evening
  4. Earlier Israel said it had conducted targeted raids in the central area of the Gaza Strip and struck dozens of Hamas targets
  5. The Israel Defense Forces said Shadi Barud, the deputy head of Hamas's intelligence arm, was killed in an operation
  6. The number of hostages kidnapped from Israel and held by Hamas in Gaza has also been updated to 229
  7. More than 1,400 people were killed in the initial attacks on Israel by Hamas on 7 October
  8. The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says 7,000 people have been killed there - 40% of whom are children - and the WHO says it believes the figures are reliable
 
I sincerely hoped and prayed that Israel would have heeded this message...
Israel did NOT inflict the first casualty of war.
I assume you know the first civilians, women, and children slaughtered were by Hamas. Why is Hamas still keeping civilian hostages?
 
I see what you are referencing and my apologies, it appears my assertion was incorrect. I don't think one guy (Abbas) speaks for the Palestinian people.
First, appreciate you addressing that. Very few reply admitting they were incorrect. Kudos.

Second, I didn’t and would never claim that Abbas speaks for ALL Palestinians. And sadly that is not good. As public support for Hamas is over 50% in Palestine.
But Abbas is the Palestinian President. His words and perspective of far-left comparisons of the “apartheid” hold weight. There is a huge gulf of difference between separation due to being 2nd class due to skin color (ie South Africa) than separation due to national security. Hamas is kinda proving that point right now.
 
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First, appreciate you addressing that. Very few reply admitting they were incorrect. Kudos.

Second, I didn’t and would never claim that Abbas speaks for ALL Palestinians. And sadly that is not good. As public support for Hamas is over 50% in Palestine.
But Abbas is the Palestinian President. His words and perspective of far-left comparisons of the “apartheid” hold weight. There is a huge gulf of difference between separation due to being 2nd class due to skin color (ie South Africa) than separation due to national security. Hamas is kinda proving that point right now.
No problem.

Strongly disagree with your second paragraph. What do you think is happening with Jewish settlers in the west bank? They are displacing people based on religion and ethnicity from land that is supposed to be part of palestine. There is almost daily violence committed to force Palestinians from their land there. Palestinians can only emigrate one direction: out of Jerusalem, out of the west bank to gaza. A palestinian from gaza cannot emigrate to the west bank and a palestinian from the west bank cannot emigrate to east jerusalem. What system does that sound like to you?
 
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Israel did NOT inflict the first casualty of war.
I assume you know the first civilians, women, and children slaughtered were by Hamas. Why is Hamas still keeping civilian hostages?
Israel has inflicted casualties for decades...I assume you know this and are just ignoring it...I don't know why they are keeping hostages, why have others done it for years? bargaining chips, trade, ??
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  1. Israel is continuously pounding Gaza with airstrikes following a night of intensified bombing
  2. The BBC's Rushdi Abualouf says the north of the Strip was hit overnight "on a scale we’ve never seen before" and that there was "total chaos" in the territory
  3. We do not yet have any specific casualty figures from the overnight bombardment. Communication networks went down last night and getting information out of Gaza is difficult
  4. Israel's military said its ground forces entered Gaza overnight as part of an expanded ground operation and were "still in the field"
  5. The UN General Assembly called for an immediate humanitarian truce, with 120 states voting for a resolution put forward by Jordan
  6. Israel has been bombing Gaza since the 7 October Hamas attacks that killed 1,400 people and saw 229 people kidnapped as hostages
  7. The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says more than 7,500 people have been killed since Israel's retaliatory bombing began
 
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