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Fair. I certainly lump Gaetz and Jordan with MTG/Gobert. Those four gone along with AOC/Bush/Schiff/Omar would be a great bargain for our country.
THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY apparatus excused the events of Jan 6th as “legitimate political discourse” in a party resolution.

This continued attempted false equivalency is silly

I do agree that all 8 of the legislators you mention being out would be great for the nation. Trump gone along with Biden gone would the grealest deal of the century for America though.
 
Calling those actions stupid is still downplaying these themes. They are antidemocratic, authoritarian at best and treasonous at worst. Those words have a different meaning than "abosultely stupid", right?

Newsome didn't, but a fund linked to Kamala Harris did. Bailing out violent protesters did not become any sort of litmus test for democrats though.

So after this deliberation, would you agree that not all things are equal at this point in time in the parties?

THE ENTIRE REPUBLICAN PARTY apparatus excused the events of Jan 6th as “legitimate political discourse” in a party resolution.

This continued attempted false equivalency is silly

I do agree that all 8 of the legislators you mention being out would be great for the nation. Trump gone along with Biden gone would the grealest deal of the century for America though.

You juveniles are making this area nearly unbearable. Some are trying to engage with you in basic, normal discourse... but it's difficult or impossible due to your immature, militant nature.
 
I have not and was not making that claim…..now let me actually make it. :LOL:
Your previous posts on this thread make me realize you don’t attempt comprehension and you just continually echo one sided talking points, but to lay it out for you….his question was what Democrat leaders have excused rioting and deaths.
I specifically stated Harris was pushing for more protest and encouraging money for bail - which she inarguably did on multiple occasions in June 2020 and months leading up to the election. I added nothing about excusing rioting or deaths

Your follow up post about “legitimate public discourse” makes my point. Some people deeply entrenched in one side of the aisle will stretch to interpret actions/words. We live in a world of misinformation and some people fall for it. In the above case, some might interpret Harris as pushing protests to turn to riots and criminal behavior. Far-right extremists also might say she was pushing death.

And conversely, some far-left extremists believe that the entire Republican Party was excusing the Jan 6th riots.

I think it best not to be in either camp.
 
You juveniles are making this area nearly unbearable. Some are trying to engage with you in basic, normal discourse... but it's difficult or impossible due to your immature, militant nature.

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How many Dems voted to overturn a United States Democratic Election based on BLM?????


147 GOP reps went in an voted to overturn a Legal and Fair US election because they were bought into some wild ass conspiracy Theory. You can't even get 147 Dems to agree to how many genders there are let alone try to over turn a Democratic election in the largest and most successful Democracy in History.


The Republicans who voted to overturn the election​

Reuters asked the 147 lawmakers who voted to overturn the U.S. election if they believed Donald Trump lost the presidency because of election fraud.

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Your previous posts on this thread make me realize you don’t attempt comprehension and you just continually echo one sided talking points, but to lay it out for you….his question was what Democrat leaders have excused rioting and deaths.
I specifically stated Harris was pushing for more protest and encouraging money for bail - which she inarguably did on multiple occasions in June 2020 and months leading up to the election. I added nothing about excusing rioting or deaths

Your follow up post about “legitimate public discourse” makes my point. Some people deeply entrenched in one side of the aisle will stretch to interpret actions/words. We live in a world of misinformation and some people fall for it. In the above case, some might interpret Harris as pushing protests to turn to riots and criminal behavior. Far-right extremists also might say she was pushing death.

And conversely, some far-left extremists believe that the entire Republican Party was excusing the Jan 6th riots.

I think it best not to be in either camp.

Your previous posts in this thread make me realize you will continue to attempt to make a false equivalency between the ENTIRE NATIONAL REPUBLICAN PARTY ORGANIZATION officially excusing Jan 6th as “reasonable discourse” in a party resolution with Harris raising funds for bail for accused, not yet convicted, rioters….which is a constitutional right, btw.

They are not equivalent. They are not the same. They both happened, that is an undeniable fact. That is NOT misinformation. You are as deeply entrenched in your false equivalency as anyone on the far left or far right are entrenched in their position.

Me? Rioters during this past summer’s protests should be arrested, charged, and convicted if the evidence supports a conviction. Anybody left or right that said or says otherwise, I rebuke.

I don’t think the entirety of the membership of the Republican Party excused January 6th riots. I never said that. There is certainly one notable exception that took it very seriously. She was rebuked by her own party for it. There are other Republicans that have not excused it. You can’t, however, deny that the fact that party apparatus for Republicans officially excused it by resolution AND officially rebuked one of it’s own members that very publicly refused to excuse it for that refusal.

You also cannot deny that the leading Republican Presidential candidate has raised the likelihood of pardoning January 6th rioters that have been convicted of crimes. I don’t recall any Democrat, including Biden, calling for pardons for those convicted of crimes during last summer’s riots.

Yet you continue to equivocate the behavior of the parties as equally egregious.
 
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Your previous posts in this thread make me realize you will continue to attempt to make a false equivalency between the ENTIRE NATIONAL REPUBLICAN PARTY officially excusing Jan 6th as “reasonable discourse” in a party resolution with Harris raising funds for bail for accused, not yet convicted, rioters….which is a constitutional right, btw.

They are not equivalent. They are not the same. They both happened, that is an undeniable fact. That is NOT misinformation. You are as deeply entrenched in your false equivalency as anyone on the far left or far right are entrenched in their position.

Me? Rioters during this past summer’s protest to be arrested, charged, and convicted. Anybody left or right that said or says otherwise I rebuke.

I don’t think the entirety of the membership of the Republican Party excused January 6th riots. I never said that. There is certainly one notable exception that took it very seriously. She was rebuked by her own party for it. There are other Republicans that have not excused it. You can’t, however, deny that the fact that party apparatus for Republicans officially excused it by resolution AND officially rebuked one of it’s own members that very public refused to excuse it for that refusal.
Adam Kinzinger was also on the commission. But he retired from congress. Below are his reasons why.

From October 2021...
After announcing on Friday that he would not seek reelection to Congress in 2022, Rep. Adam Kinzinger, R-Ill., said Sunday he, Rep. Liz Cheney and "a few others" are the only House Republicans "telling the truth" about the 2020 election and its aftermath.

"You can fight to try to tell the truth, you can fight against the cancer in the Republican Party of lies of conspiracy of dishonesty," Kinzinger told ABC "This Week" anchor George Stephanopoulos exclusively in his first interview since the announcement. "There are about 190 people in the Republican Party that aren't going to say a word, and there's a leader of the Republican caucus that is embracing Donald Trump with all he can."
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"It's a couple of things -- it's sitting back and saying, 'OK, what happens if I win again?' I go back, and Republicans will probably be in the majority," Kinzinger responded. "I’m going to be fighting even harder on some of these things, and it's been obvious over the last 10 months that nobody ... I haven't seen any momentum in the party move away from lies and toward truth."
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"The Republican establishment now -- whether it's the [National Republican Congressional Committee], whether it's Kevin McCarthy -- have held onto Donald Trump," he said. "They have continued to breathe life into him, and so actually, it's not handing a win as much to Donald Trump as it is to the cancerous kind of lies and conspiracy" that are now the "mainstream argument of the Republican Party."

"It's not on Liz Cheney and I to save the Republican Party," Kinzinger added. "It's on the 190 Republicans who haven't said a dang word about it, and they put their head in the sand and hope somebody else comes along and does something."

 
Your previous posts in this thread make me realize you will continue to attempt to make a false equivalency between the ENTIRE NATIONAL REPUBLICAN PARTY ORGANIZATION officially excusing Jan 6th as “reasonable discourse” in a party resolution with Harris raising funds for bail for accused, not yet convicted, rioters….which is a constitutional right, btw.

They are not equivalent. They are not the same. They both happened, that is an undeniable fact. That is NOT misinformation. You are as deeply entrenched in your false equivalency as anyone on the far left or far right are entrenched in their position.

Me? Rioters during this past summer’s protests should be arrested, charged, and convicted if the evidence supports a conviction. Anybody left or right that said or says otherwise, I rebuke.

I don’t think the entirety of the membership of the Republican Party excused January 6th riots. I never said that. There is certainly one notable exception that took it very seriously. She was rebuked by her own party for it. There are other Republicans that have not excused it. You can’t, however, deny that the fact that party apparatus for Republicans officially excused it by resolution AND officially rebuked one of it’s own members that very publicly refused to excuse it for that refusal.

You also cannot deny that the leading Republican Presidential candidate has raised the likelihood of pardoning January 6th rioters that have been convicted of crimes. I don’t recall any Democrat, including Biden, calling for pardons for those convicted of crimes during last summer’s riots.

Yet you continue to equivocate the behavior of the parties as equally egregious.
I will ask one simple question to understand where you are: Do you truly believe the resolution was excusing rioting?

If you do, you deserve a major league ….!”
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I will ask one simple question to understand where you are: Do you truly believe the resolution was excusing rioting?

If you do, you deserve a major league ….!”
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There are literally GOP candidates running in 2024 and part of their Platform is that they will Pardon every rioter who participated in Jan 6th.

That is literally happening today
 
I will ask one simple question to understand where you are: Do you truly believe the resolution was excusing rioting?

If you do, you deserve a major league ….!”
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“Whereas, Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger are participating in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse, and they are both utilizing their past political affiliation to wash Democrat abuse of prosecutorial power for partisan purpose.”

I can only take them to mean what they put in the resolution.

Yeah, characterizing the Jan 6th investigations as “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse” absolutely is “excusing“ what happened on Jan 6th at the Capitol.

I think your attempt to argue that it wasn’t is laughable and deserves a simple….

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This whole thing is like giving the same sentence to one person who committed armed robbery while the other committed cold blooded murder. Would you say that isn't accurately assessing the situation, or would you both sides that one too? @JTOSU
 
This whole thing is like giving the same sentence to one person who committed armed robbery while the other committed cold blooded murder. Would you say that isn't accurately assessing the situation, or would you both sides that one too? @JTOSU
One is infinitely worse than the other.

Horrible analogy when used as this comparison IMO.

Based on your previous posts, I assume you are placing the 25 deaths, 17K arrests, and over $2B in damage as “armed robbery”. Yet, one death, 1K arrests, and $1.5M are ”cold blooded murder“. Hmmmmmm

Yes, both are very bad. I don’t see any need to make one worse than the other.

If I am misunderstanding how you attempting to place your comparison, my apology.
 
One is infinitely worse than the other.

Horrible analogy when used as this comparison IMO.

Based on your previous posts, I assume you are placing the 25 deaths, 17K arrests, and over $2B in damage as “armed robbery”. Yet, one death, 1K arrests, and $1.5M are ”cold blooded murder“. Hmmmmmm

Yes, both are very bad. I don’t see any need to make one worse than the other.

If I am misunderstanding how you attempting to place your comparison, my apology.
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“Whereas, Representatives Cheney and Kinzinger are participating in a Democrat-led persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse, and they are both utilizing their past political affiliation to wash Democrat abuse of prosecutorial power for partisan purpose.”

I can only take them to mean what they put in the resolution.

Yeah, characterizing the Jan 6th investigations as “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse” absolutely is “excusing“ what happened on Jan 6th at the Capitol.

I think your attempt to argue that it wasn’t is laughable and deserves a simple….

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So you changing your statement about the entire Republican Party excusing Jan 6th events to Republican against the investigations??

And claiming being against the political investigation is excusing rioting? Again, c’mon man.
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