US continues to go backward...

HacklemanPoke said:
I apologize as I’ve been away traveling for the day but nowhere in the article can you read where HJ says Donald said… about Jim Crow.

I read the article but then when you started being … well you I wanted to go back and reread bc of your insistence.

I’ll hold out that I’m wrong and didn’t read and comprehend the Hill article so please point me to where I can read that in the article.
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The link showing the quote from Jeffries was good because it was not just quoting Jeffries, but provided a video of him saying it.

Directly from the article Polds posted:
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) also blasted Donalds for the comments on Wednesday.


Jeffries: “It has come to my attention that a so-called leader has made the factually inaccurate statement that black folks were better off during Jim Crow. How dare you make such an an ignorant observation. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself”
 
JTOSU said:
The link showing the quote from Jeffries was good because it was not just quoting Jeffries, but provided a video of him saying it.

Directly from the article Polds posted:
House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) also blasted Donalds for the comments on Wednesday.


Jeffries: “It has come to my attention that a so-called leader has made the factually inaccurate statement that black folks were better off during Jim Crow. How dare you make such an an ignorant observation. You better check yourself before you wreck yourself”
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Whoa! You said I could read and comprehend. You didn’t say anything about watching the video.

I realize it’s in the video. I just thought this was the part of the thread were we mischaracterize what people type in message board threads.
 
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HacklemanPoke said:
I do. But I figured after dealing w Nashville downtown rush hour traffic I hadn’t suffered enough today.
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Fair enough, but you were warned.

You have no one but yourself to blame. ;)

Hunger Games Odds GIF
 
JTOSU said:
Another extreme that can’t admit they are wrong.

Ugh Frustrated GIF by Equipe de France de Football
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I realize this will not end well for me but I literally said I could be wrong in a previous post. Turns out I wasn’t. You cannot read anywhere in the Hill article where HJ misquoted Donalds. You can watch it in the video but that’s not what you told me to do. You said “read and comprehend.”

At the beginning of this point in the thread you called out posters for saying they made a claim about something Donald’s said.

It was obvious the poster was referring to himself and the originator and they were not referencing anything anyone else in the known universe including HJ said about Donald’s statement. After calling them out they even said they were referring to themselves and the OP but you doubled down.

That’s what you do. It’s what JD called you out for here. I’ve called you out for in other threads. And other posters have done the same in yet other threads.

You then incorrectly claimed that one could read and comprehend your rebutted proof in the article and you were flat out wrong. I know I’m being difficult and nitpicking here. So I lead you back through by trying to get you to see that in the article you reference you CANNOT read what you claimed bc the article never says that HJ “said” that Donald’s said … about Jim Crow. The article attributes in written form that HJ “OBSERVED” what Donald’s said. The video shows HJ using the word “statement” when attributing the quote by Donald’s.

So again my fault for trying to be cute like you do and parse people’s words.

But I beg of you. I beseech you. Please stop mischarachterizing and twisting what people say and just have a solid discussion on facts. We can all disagree but it is insufferable when you … well … do you.
 
HacklemanPoke said:
It was obvious the poster was referring to himself and the originator and they were not referencing anything anyone else

You then incorrectly claimed that one could read and comprehend your rebutted proof in the article and you were flat out wrong. I know I’m being difficult and nitpicking here. So I lead you back through by trying to get you to see that in the article you reference you CANNOT read what you claimed bc the article never says that HJ “said” that Donald’s said … about Jim Crow. The article attributes in written form that HJ “OBSERVED” what Donald’s said. The video shows HJ using the word “statement” when attributing the quote by Donald’s.

So again my fault for trying to be cute like you do and parse people’s words.
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If you want to continue to be willfully ignorant and/or intentionally disingenuous that’s your decision.

1) The poster was not referring to himself or the originator. The poster was replying to a comment I made to the originator’s post. The originators post was a link to the story and a couple of sentences from it.

2) I’ve quoted Jeffries exact words several times. Yes the link in the article has the video but also has the exact PRINTED quote (which I cut and pasted below). Extreme odd argument that you seem bothered that their is video to go along with the printed quote.

3) You are not being cute with words. I quoted his use of the word “statement”. He was not at all quoting Donalds as Donalds did not say that at all

4) For some reason you appear to argue facts that are easily read in a couple of pages of threads. And easily consumed in articles listed. I twice told you to use the links in the articles, but even then you argue what is included.

I enjoy debating ideology and politics. But having to multiple times debate and point out easy facts is silly.
 

Louisiana bans transgender people from bathrooms that align with gender identity​


To me, it protects women from nothing. Why would a straight man who wants to rape a woman first want to put on a dress and wig before going into a women's room to rape? Since he is already such a disgusting and despicable character, he would just go in and rape her. Forget the dress and wig.

It's going to cause more trouble for women and trans than it's worth. Women who identify as male and have taken hormones and had breast reduction tend to look male everywhere except between the legs.

trans.webp
 
JTOSU said:
If you want to continue to be willfully ignorant and/or intentionally disingenuous that’s your decision.

1) The poster was not referring to himself or the originator. The poster was replying to a comment I made to the originator’s post. The originators post was a link to the story and a couple of sentences from it.

2) I’ve quoted Jeffries exact words several times. Yes the link in the article has the video but also has the exact PRINTED quote (which I cut and pasted below). Extreme odd argument that you seem bothered that their is video to go along with the printed quote.

3) You are not being cute with words. I quoted his use of the word “statement”. He was not at all quoting Donalds as Donalds did not say that at all

4) For some reason you appear to argue facts that are easily read in a couple of pages of threads. And easily consumed in articles listed. I twice told you to use the links in the articles, but even then you argue what is included.

I enjoy debating ideology and politics. But having to multiple times debate and point out easy facts is silly.
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Finally. Yes I am being as you put it intentionally disingenuous. Thank you. I was not arguing what HJ said in the video. You were exactly right all along about what was said in the video. I was being a smartazz but as typical your self righteous never can be wrong self was too busy trying to prove you were right you never got it. You never do.

I was duly warned and my past experiences w you should have proved to me the same. And once again you did you.

I apologize to the serious posters on here for wasting 2 pages trying to prove a point to you by being a smartazzm

Congrats. You won. Please take your message board debate trophy and put it beside your other accomplishments. Be sure and tell everyone at work Monday that you set hacklemanpoke straight over the weekend.
 
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HacklemanPoke said:
I realize this will not end well for me but I literally said I could be wrong in a previous post. Turns out I wasn’t. You cannot read anywhere in the Hill article where HJ misquoted Donalds. You can watch it in the video but that’s not what you told me to do. You said “read and comprehend.”

At the beginning of this point in the thread you called out posters for saying they made a claim about something Donald’s said.

It was obvious the poster was referring to himself and the originator and they were not referencing anything anyone else in the known universe including HJ said about Donald’s statement. After calling them out they even said they were referring to themselves and the OP but you doubled down.

That’s what you do. It’s what JD called you out for here. I’ve called you out for in other threads. And other posters have done the same in yet other threads.

You then incorrectly claimed that one could read and comprehend your rebutted proof in the article and you were flat out wrong. I know I’m being difficult and nitpicking here. So I lead you back through by trying to get you to see that in the article you reference you CANNOT read what you claimed bc the article never says that HJ “said” that Donald’s said … about Jim Crow. The article attributes in written form that HJ “OBSERVED” what Donald’s said. The video shows HJ using the word “statement” when attributing the quote by Donald’s.

So again my fault for trying to be cute like you do and parse people’s words.

But I beg of you. I beseech you. Please stop mischarachterizing and twisting what people say and just have a solid discussion on facts. We can all disagree but it is insufferable when you … well … do you.
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But it a very real sense, it works.

After all we’re no longer discussing the insinuation of Donalds’s words any more. We’re focused on rebutting the trivial, meaningless, misleading behavior of a troll.

We went from a substantive discussion to dealing with his non-substantive nonsense. Mission accomplished for him.
 
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Visualized another way: Clarence Thomas took in ~$4 million in gifts over the last 20 years (and only disclosed $2.4M worth).

That's a total haul 5.6x larger than the other 16 justices combined.
 
friend is a High School coach; their district will not allow coaches to accept gifts, tickets to games, giftcards, etc. from people...but Supreme Court Justices can accept cruises, vacations, fine dining, $$ in bulky envelopes, etc....smh
 
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friend is a High School coach; their district will not allow coaches to accept gifts, tickets to games, giftcards, etc. from people...but Supreme Court Justices can accept cruises, vacations, fine dining, $$ in bulky envelopes, etc....smh
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At work we have training every year that says we can't give anything to government employees beyond lunch or certificates/plaques. Back in my previous career, we couldn't accept anything over like $50 from contractors for the same reason... appearance of conflict of interest or impropriaty.

Why doesn't that apply to a justice in the highest court when it applies to a no one like me that doesn't have decision making roles? More importantly, how can we get this country back to expecting/requiring proper behavior of our high level government? As long as people put party over country it'll never happen.
 
GratefulPoke said:
Visualized another way: Clarence Thomas took in ~$4 million in gifts over the last 20 years (and only disclosed $2.4M worth).

That's a total haul 5.6x larger than the other 16 justices combined.
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He was going to retire years and years ago if Justices didn't get a raise... instead of getting a legit raise he gets gifts now. Works out better for the people wanting to influence him.
 
This is from Maureen Dowd who is far too liberal for me but she makes some good points (along with some hyperbolic ones.)
The idea that Alito can rule impartially on something as important to our nation as the Jan 6th incident when he is flying Jan 6th rally flags (oh, his wife is flying MAGA flags and he can't stop her) is absurd. It is also absurd, IMHO, that it is up to him to recuse himself. A system that recuses only the honorable and ethical.

Back to my point about our government forcing the troops to avoid even the appearance of impropriety while allowing clear impropriety to flourish amongst the politicians. And, yeah, the SCOTUS is now just a bunch of politicians.

www.nytimes.com

Opinion | The Verdict Is In on the Supreme Court

It’s corrupt, rotten and hurting America.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

By Maureen Dowd
Opinion Columnist, reporting from Washington

After Donald Trump was found guilty of 34 felony counts in a Manhattan court, conservatives — from Marjorie Taylor Greene to George Santos to the Heritage Foundation — began posting upside-down American flags on X in solidarity with the “political prisoner,” as Trump absurdly styles himself.
It was the same upside-down symbol that insurrectionists carried to the Capitol on Jan. 6 to proclaim that they thought the election was stolen and that was seen flying over Justice Samuel Alito’s house in suburban Virginia even as the Supreme Court was considering whether to hear a case about the 2020 presidential election.
Now that it’s being used to show support for a felonious ex-president, Alito will have an even harder time trying to pretend he’s oblivious about its meaning.
I don’t need a black robe to hand down a judgment on the Supreme Court.
It’s corrupt, rotten and hurting America.

The once august court, which the public held in highest esteem, is now hopelessly corroded: It is in the hands of a cabal of religious and far-right zealots, including a couple of ethical scofflaws with MAGA wives.
Chief Justice John Roberts, who dreamed of being remembered as a great unifier of the court, is refusing to rein in Justices Alito and Clarence Thomas, who are thumbing their noses at the public and their own oaths to dispense fair and impartial justice.
 
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