I mean there was other stuff too. It happens every time. People and organizations do in fact fund these things for all sorts of reasons. Some good. Some bad. No conspiracy theories here.
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I mean there was other stuff too. It happens every time. People and organizations do in fact fund these things for all sorts of reasons. Some good. Some bad. No conspiracy theories here.
Stillwater Townie
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What a welcoming gesture just for Zionist lobbyists while committing crass hypocrisy! I wonder how much money he takes from them?
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Stillwater Townie
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Citydata crime index for Little Rock, AR: 775.6. For the California capitol city of Sacramento, it's: 375.2.
Citydata crime index for San Diego, CA: 208.6.
In addition, the ratio of all residents to sex offenders in Little Rock is 436 to 1. In San Diego, it's 1,058 to 1.
So the belief by Republicans that illegal immigrants have been terrorizing California with terrible crime since Biden was president isn't showing up in these 2023 crime statistics. Ironically, the national murder rate has been going down, which started under Biden not Trump:
White House celebrates plummeting murder rates as levels dip below pre-COVID numbers
According to the FBI, 2014 saw the lowest murder rate dating back to 1960 — with 4.46 killings per 100,000 Americans.
nypost.com
White House celebrates plummeting murder rates as levels dip below pre-COVID numbers
According to the FBI, 2014 saw the lowest murder rate dating back to 1960 — with 4.46 killings per 100,000 Americans.
nypost.com
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its more fun when you can just blame the illuminati and Rothschilds though
Listen I wish I wouldn't have brought up the money thing.
Honestly though the better conspiracy would be that the violence is funded by Trump's people. That's who gains from it.
Red flags everywhere.
Those are false flags!
Polds4OSU
Marshall
I'm not sure who said anything like "you don't know their story."
There is a huge difference between "I can understand how that happened" and "I am condoning/defending that happening."
You are pretty passionate about college football. When I would explain it to Australians, they would be like "You pay all that money to watch students play football? I don't get it." It makes sense that you wouldn't get this protest given you and your family are at no risk from the thing they are protesting. And, I agree with you that some on both sides look bad. But, I don't agree they have no message.
L.A. protesters say they are speaking up for immigrant ‘family.’
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Protesters in Los Angeles on Sunday.Credit...Gabriela Bhaskar/The New York Times
Some donned bandannas and goggles, and others simply wore their purple union T-shirts. Many scribbled messages on pieces of cardboard or grabbed their phones and cued up a livestream. Then they rolled out — on foot or on skateboards or scooters — to the streets of Los Angeles.
While there were those who set out to cause mayhem, light fires and confront officers, many more of the protesters who have rallied across the region in recent days have been peaceful.
“I’m trying to show my son what it looks like when community comes together,” said Nicole Garcia, 35, an Uber driver who wore a veil and painted her face to look like a skull to honor the Mexican Day of the Dead. She said she brought her 15-year-old son to his first protest in downtown Los Angeles on Sunday to support their immigrant friends and neighbors “because they’re family.”
The protests in Los Angeles have attracted a vast universe of demonstrators.
Some have been seasoned immigrant rights activists who marched in 1994 against Proposition 187, the state measure that would have severely curbed immigrants’ rights in California. Others have been union members who show up at rallies to boost the minimum wage or to celebrate workers on May Day. Some have been young people who learned on social media about the immigration raids, and who gravitated toward them to help detainees in whom they saw reflections of themselves or their parents.
In the past, the city’s mass protests have been inspired by solidarity with communities across the country, or even around the world. The death of George Floyd, a Black man, while in police custody resonated with hundreds of thousands of Angelenos who protested for racial justice in 2020, even though he was murdered in Minnesota. When protests at the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of Southern California erupted in chaos last year, it was because students had felt compelled to sound an alarm for Palestinians under Israeli bombardment in Gaza, more than 7,000 miles away.
But for many of the thousands of demonstrators who have joined rallies, marches and spontaneous protests since the cluster of immigration raids began on Friday, their cause is intensely personal.
That was true for Lillian Washington, 29, an Angeleno who works for the nonprofit Community Coalition and whose in-laws are immigrants from Guanajuato, Mexico. She attended a rally in downtown Los Angeles to free David Huerta, the local labor leader who was violently arrested while protesting a raid on Friday. (He has since been released on bond.)
Victor M. Gordo, the Mexico-born mayor of Pasadena, joined an impromptu rally on Sunday outside a hotel in his city where immigration agents had stayed the night before, because he remembered the fear that his own parents would be deported following an immigration raid.
Hector Galeano, 25, carried a large flag — half Guatemalan and half American — to the rally for Mr. Huerta on Monday, expressing strong ties to both countries.
“Some of my family and a lot of people out here aren’t able to be a voice themselves. They don’t have a voice at the moment — they are literally scared,” Mr. Galeano said. “Thankfully, I’m a citizen. I’m here being the voice they can’t have right now.”
Other protesters said they wanted to speak up after hearing their family members back the president’s immigration enforcement policies — even if their own loved ones could be targeted.
Noel Becerra, 26, quickly wrote a sign referring to the 2019 massacre of 23 people at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, before heading to a protest in the small city of Paramount on Saturday.
The gunman, who in 2023 pleaded guilty to hate crimes, had sought out his victims, Mr. Becerra’s sign said in all caps, “specifically because they looked like you!”
It continued: “He killed citizens and migrants and you stand here defending his ideology!”
Mr. Becerra, an artist and art handler, said the message was directed at Latino law enforcement officers, including some of his own relatives.
“It’s as if they forgot their own past,” he said. “Because I can tell you with confidence, at least some of the brown men in that line over there — their parents, their grandparents, someone in their family — did not come here the right way.”
He gestured toward the officers who had been clashing with protesters. At least one of them had shot a projectile through his sign.
Jesus Jiménez contributed reporting.
I think there is a better chance of you going to LA with Molotov cocktails and a Mexican flag than that you actually believe that we are arguing for violence and you are arguing against it.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
This is ILLEGAL
The military can’t actually arrest people unless Trump invokes the Insurrection Act…
National Guard troops have temporarily detained civilians in LA protests, commander says
BREAKING: National Guardsmen temporarily detain American civilians. They cannot legally do this. https://apnews.com/article/national...n=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
The military can’t actually arrest people unless Trump invokes the Insurrection Act…
National Guard troops have temporarily detained civilians in LA protests, commander says
BREAKING: National Guardsmen temporarily detain American civilians. They cannot legally do this. https://apnews.com/article/national...n=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter
Polds4OSU
Marshall
The commander overseeing military operations in Los Angeles said Wednesday that troops deployed to the city can temporarily detain individuals but cannot make arrests, clarifying their authority amid ongoing protests. https://abcnews.go.com/US/us-milita...ters-los-angeles-commander/story?id=122736204
Detaining is not arresting.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
"The troops do not participate in the actual arrests or law enforcement activities, and instead immediately let go of the person once police get them under control or put them in handcuffs."
That sure sounds like they are participating to me.
You said it was "ILLEGAL". It's not.
That's why I formed the question to him, so he didn't think I was accusing HIM of defending them.
I said there are many defending them and there are. Both from the sidelines and joining the fray.
Polds4OSU
Marshall
That's why the Sec of Def couldn't Cite ONE SINGLE legal provision under the US Constitution giving Trump the authority to deploy the national guard without a State Governor approval when he testified under oath to The Senate today huh
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