that makes people more money. These people also want to get rid of the polio vaccine being free or as cheap as it is.
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Early afternoon of Dec. 3, 2019, KCPD observed a red pick-up truck chasing another vehicle through the streets of Kansas City. Officers attempted to catch up with the pick-up truck, but had to involve the police helicopter in order to track the fleeing vehicle.
At some point, the driver of the pick-up truck drove down the driveway of a home on College Avenue in Kansas City and into the back yard.
Two detectives, Eric DeValkenaere and Troy Schwalm, arrived on College Avenue and walked to the back yard, where the fleeing vehicle had been spotted by the helicopter crew. Det. Schwalm approached from the driver’s side and Det. DeValkenaere approached on the passenger side. They were shouting verbal commands toward the driver, Lamb, in an attempt to have him stop and show his hands.
After the fleeing Det. DeValkenaere saw Lamb (still seated in the driver’s position) reach toward his waistband with his left hand. Lamb then raised a handgun and pointed the gun toward Det. Schwalm.
Fearing that Lamb was going to shoot Det. Schwalm, Det. DeValkenaere discharged his firearm four times into the windshield of the pick-up.
Eric DeValkenaere — Kansas City, Missouri Police Department - LELDF
UPDATE: In November 2021, Eric was convicted of Involuntary Manslaughter […]
www.policedefense.org
mugatu
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Two KCPD detectives, Schwalm and DeValkenaere, entered the backyard of a residence in the 4100 block of College Avenue. Nine seconds after DeValkenaere entered the property by knocking over a makeshift fence, he shot and killed Cameron Lamb.Early afternoon of Dec. 3, 2019, KCPD observed a red pick-up truck chasing another vehicle through the streets of Kansas City. Officers attempted to catch up with the pick-up truck, but had to involve the police helicopter in order to track the fleeing vehicle.
At some point, the driver of the pick-up truck drove down the driveway of a home on College Avenue in Kansas City and into the back yard.
Two detectives, Eric DeValkenaere and Troy Schwalm, arrived on College Avenue and walked to the back yard, where the fleeing vehicle had been spotted by the helicopter crew. Det. Schwalm approached from the driver’s side and Det. DeValkenaere approached on the passenger side. They were shouting verbal commands toward the driver, Lamb, in an attempt to have him stop and show his hands.
After the fleeing Det. DeValkenaere saw Lamb (still seated in the driver’s position) reach toward his waistband with his left hand. Lamb then raised a handgun and pointed the gun toward Det. Schwalm.
Fearing that Lamb was going to shoot Det. Schwalm, Det. DeValkenaere discharged his firearm four times into the windshield of the pick-up.
Eric DeValkenaere — Kansas City, Missouri Police Department - LELDF
UPDATE: In November 2021, Eric was convicted of Involuntary Manslaughter […]
It was later determined that the officers entered the property without a warrant; without seeking permission to enter the property, including from Lamb’s roommate who was on the front porch; and without probable cause of any crime beyond traffic infractions.
Shortly after shooting and killing Cameron Lamb, former KCPD Det. Eric DeValkenaere identified himself then responded to a question about if any suspects remained at-large over the police radio: “Nobody here. When we arrived here, the lady in pink was telling us that the Mustang had been over here and there was a situation involving guns.”
“The lady in pink” refers to Lamb’s roommate. She and DeValkenaere testified at his trial that no such conversation ever took place. In fact, they never spoke to each other before or after the shooting about events earlier that morning.
No bullets were found in Lamb’s pockets during the processing of the scene, but two bullets showed up in Lamb’s pocket during an autopsy the next day at the Jackson County Medical Examiner’s Office.
Detectives Schwalm and DeValkenaere testified that the truck was running when the shooting occurred, but the keys were later found in Lamb’s pocket and not in the ignition.
Detailed timeline | Shooting of Cameron Lamb, conviction of ex-KCPD officer Eric DeValkenaere
A detailed timeline of the shooting of Cameron Lamb on Dec. 3, 2019, in the 4100 block of College Avenue and the case against Eric DeValkenaere, the former KCPD officer convicted in his death.
www.kshb.com
Sorry but I don't believe much from a police defense site on what happened that lead to a conviction of a police officer of lynching. And he lied immediately after the shooting.
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Your choice if you don’t want to believe the article from that site. It is wise to be critical and understand bias from different sources.Two KCPD detectives, Schwalm and DeValkenaere, entered the backyard of a residence in the 4100 block of College Avenue. Nine seconds after DeValkenaere entered the property by knocking over a makeshift fence, he shot and killed Cameron Lamb.
It was later determined that the officers entered the property without a warrant; without seeking permission to enter the property, including from Lamb’s roommate who was on the front porch; and without probable cause of any crime beyond traffic infractions.
Detailed timeline | Shooting of Cameron Lamb, conviction of ex-KCPD officer Eric DeValkenaere
A detailed timeline of the shooting of Cameron Lamb on Dec. 3, 2019, in the 4100 block of College Avenue and the case against Eric DeValkenaere, the former KCPD officer convicted in his death.
Sorry but I don't believe much from a police defense site on what happened that lead to a conviction of a police officer of lynching.
Question: Your site says he was convicted of lynching. Is that correct?
mugatu
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Yes. That's what the pardon was from if you look at the initial post.
Who did he lynch?
1. He was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to six years incarceration in prison.
2. The Missouri Governor didn’t pardon him, he commuted his incarceration and placed him on parole.
Seems both of you could learn a little lesson about being critical and and understanding bias from different sources along with the utility of original sources like court records and official decrees.
2. The Missouri Governor didn’t pardon him, he commuted his incarceration and placed him on parole.
Seems both of you could learn a little lesson about being critical and and understanding bias from different sources along with the utility of original sources like court records and official decrees.
So he didn’t lynch anyone?
Cambridge dictionary:
the punishment of someone who is thought to be guilty of a crime, without a legal trial, by killing them
Merriam-Webster
to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal approval or permission
I’ll let lesser minds argue semantics. I’m interested in facts.
He was convicted of the unlawful killing of a person without due process of law.
the punishment of someone who is thought to be guilty of a crime, without a legal trial, by killing them
Merriam-Webster
to put to death (as by hanging) by mob action without legal approval or permission
I’ll let lesser minds argue semantics. I’m interested in facts.
He was convicted of the unlawful killing of a person without due process of law.
You missed the point and why posted the article from the police defense site. I agree sites have bias. You posted from a site that claimed he was convicted for lynching. Lynching is a much different crime than involuntary manslaughter. And carries a well-deserved negative racially charged tone…which your bias site wanted to inaccurately convey.
There is no evidence that this crime had anything to do with race.
Reading the timeline @mugatu posted this seems really shady.
Their may or may not have been planted evidence. The state AG's office sided with the defense. He didn't have to face a jail cell for almost 4 years after he committed the crime. After being in jail for about a year, the current governor grants him parole because the incoming governor is gonna do the exact same thing day one he is in office. I'm guessing for the incoming governor, part of his campaign is how the former officer got screwed by the system.
And all that happened because of a traffic violation. Traffic violation is probably an oversimplification of it, but Im guessing this plays out a different way and the guy just gets a ticket for reckless driving.
mugatu
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My bias site, the literal local news station..?
Yes, I used the wrong term in pardon vs commuting, but the crime matches the definitionof lynching.
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He hasn’t provided an honest answer on here before (I applaud you for trying to reply to him). I doubt he will change, but he did just post “I’m interested in facts”. So maybe he is trying to change.
PF5
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Detailed timeline | Shooting of Cameron Lamb, conviction of ex-KCPD officer Eric DeValkenaere
A detailed timeline of the shooting of Cameron Lamb on Dec. 3, 2019, in the 4100 block of College Avenue and the case against Eric DeValkenaere, the former KCPD officer convicted in his death.
www.kshb.com
Kansas City Defender. Yes it is a biased site. Just like the police site I posted has an agenda. And no he was absolutely NOT convicted of lynching. And no it does not match the definition of lynching (which is just one reason why he wasn’t tried for that crime).
Certainly you see that.
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mugatu
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Yes. Kansas city defender is probably biased. Not a site/source I follow and I should have probably used the correct legal term used in the charging/conviction. But the conditions match the definition of the term (killing for assumption of guilt outside the legal process) and I'm not sure if lynching is a legal charge used in Missouri right now.
mugatu
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I posted because I came across it and believe there needs to be more oversight of police and ability to punish police for excessive force and unnecessary deaths. This is a step in the wrong direction to me.
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