JTOSU
Ranger
This “unelected foreign bureaucrat”someone has some power to force the bill not to pass? Okayyyyyy.
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GOGETUMPOKE
Ranger
So he doesn't have to deal with it again in the first few months of his next term...duh. He'll be way too busy setting up the camps.
JTOSU
Ranger
What you mean it may not be smart to just blindly pass a 1547 page bill that will further burden every American citizen?
GOGETUMPOKE
Ranger
Yeah, the last CR was like 20 pages I think. This one was over 1500 pages and put forth at 6:35pm the night before it was to be voted on...during the Christmas holidays
. Absolute straight up BS.
You know exactly who I'm talking about and what he has said.
The fact that Elon Musk has any say, or influence at all, in how our govt. is being run should scare everybody. But some people think it's just peachy.
Stillwater Townie
Ranger
No, it was what just Trump wanted.
Stillwater Townie
Ranger
Is this what you and Trump are talking about?
Tom Renz, an attorney who’s represented plaintiffs battling the Covid PCR tests and Covid vaccine mandates has analyzed and commented on the 1,547-page Continuing Resolution (CR) funding package. According to the lawyer’s analysis, the bill is packed with provisions that allow a pandemic power-grab.
“Congressional spending bill is a big pharma gift extending and expanding COVID emergency powers to other pandemics and even reiterating mRNA vaccine immunity!” Renz said in a social media post Wednesday. “We are evaluating the details of this 1500+ page monstrosity but it dramatically expands federal power for plandemic response and funds it all further. This bill WILL set up for the next plandemic and potentially make the next response even worse than the response to COVID. More soon…”
Renz also concurred with the editor-in-chief of Vigilant News regarding their analysis of the bill.
“Congress’s new spending bill TURBOCHARGES Covid-like powers for future pandemics,” Vigilant News’ editor-in-chief said in a social media post Wednesday. “This includes mask mandates, vaccine passports, expanded emergency health powers, gain-of-function research, and even liability shields for mRNA vaccine makers.”
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www.infowars.com
GOGETUMPOKE
Ranger
Nope. I didn't know any of that was in there. Still don't know if it actually is in there but if it's good for us it should be ok as a stand alone bill...right?
If the goal is to raise the debt celing when it isn't necessary, it isn't a standalone bill.
PF5
Sheriff
Like old times: Trump sends Congress scrambling to avoid a shutdown NPR
President-elect Donald Trump hasn't been sworn in yet but he's already running Washington again in his familiar style of upheaval and intraparty drama, starting with the decision to kill a bipartisan spending bill without a strategy to avoid a government shutdown.
Trump and his newest top lieutenant, Elon Musk, upended the bipartisan agreement on Wednesday designed to keep the government running into next year largely by mounting an opposition campaign on X, Musk's social media platform.
Musk's posts provoked a number of rank-and-file Republicans to announce their opposition to the deal even before Trump made it clear he also opposed it–a maneuver that spoke to how much power Musk — the richest man in the world — now yields in the GOP broadly and with Trump specifically. Musk's X bio now reads: "The people voted for major government reform."
The clash also provoked a sense of deja vu from Trump's first term, where the president would frequently change the policy parameters around legislation in real time and often by surprise announcement on social media. Republicans are, once again, scrambling to figure out what exactly Trump wants the party to try to pass–and if its even possible.
The meltdown also exposed how politically vulnerable Speaker Mike Johnson remains as he approaches a consequential Jan. 3 House floor vote to become the chamber's leader again....
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., went so far as to suggest Thursday on X that House Republicans should elect Musk as speaker next year — a politically possible but largely preposterous notion even if the Constitution technically allows for a speaker to not be a member of Congress.
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In a joint statement with Vice President-elect J.D. Vance, Trump said he wanted a deal to now include an increase to the debt ceiling, the nation's borrowing limit, so it would happen "on Biden's watch."
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The government will begin shutdown operations at midnight Friday, but it would take weeks for the full effect of a shutdown to be felt by everyday Americans. One thing is certain: shutdowns are a bad deal for taxpayers. They don't save any money and the shutdowns of recent years have cost billions in lost productivity.
President-elect Donald Trump hasn't been sworn in yet but he's already running Washington again in his familiar style of upheaval and intraparty drama, starting with the decision to kill a bipartisan spending bill without a strategy to avoid a government shutdown.
Trump and his newest top lieutenant, Elon Musk, upended the bipartisan agreement on Wednesday designed to keep the government running into next year largely by mounting an opposition campaign on X, Musk's social media platform.
Musk's posts provoked a number of rank-and-file Republicans to announce their opposition to the deal even before Trump made it clear he also opposed it–a maneuver that spoke to how much power Musk — the richest man in the world — now yields in the GOP broadly and with Trump specifically. Musk's X bio now reads: "The people voted for major government reform."
The clash also provoked a sense of deja vu from Trump's first term, where the president would frequently change the policy parameters around legislation in real time and often by surprise announcement on social media. Republicans are, once again, scrambling to figure out what exactly Trump wants the party to try to pass–and if its even possible.
The meltdown also exposed how politically vulnerable Speaker Mike Johnson remains as he approaches a consequential Jan. 3 House floor vote to become the chamber's leader again....
Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., went so far as to suggest Thursday on X that House Republicans should elect Musk as speaker next year — a politically possible but largely preposterous notion even if the Constitution technically allows for a speaker to not be a member of Congress.
...
In a joint statement with Vice President-elect J.D. Vance, Trump said he wanted a deal to now include an increase to the debt ceiling, the nation's borrowing limit, so it would happen "on Biden's watch."
...
The government will begin shutdown operations at midnight Friday, but it would take weeks for the full effect of a shutdown to be felt by everyday Americans. One thing is certain: shutdowns are a bad deal for taxpayers. They don't save any money and the shutdowns of recent years have cost billions in lost productivity.
mugatu
Ranger
So you don't know what in there but it's all pork...? Interesting
Obviously there are a lot that agree with that.
GOGETUMPOKE
Ranger
Yeah, my point is that if it is important and has merit it should have no problem passing on it's own without being shoved down our throats as part of a 1500+ page bill hoisted on us at the eleventh hour that nobody will have time to read. It's everything that's wrong with DC wrapped up with a nice big fat bow on it.
GOGETUMPOKE
Ranger
Nobody knows what's in there. That's my point. But yeah, of course it's full of pork. It always is. Are you seriously trying to assert otherwise?
What's in there has been discussed quite a bit. If aid for hurricane victims and a continuation of the farm bill is your definition of pork, Im not sure what to think.
Also if you don't like this, get ready to be really upset in about a month. Any idea of streamlining government spending with the new administration is a fantasy-just going to be putting more money in different pockets and calling it efficiency.
mugatu
Ranger
Trump calls for abolishing the debt ceiling
In a phone interview with NBC News, Trump said getting rid of the debt ceiling entirely would be the “smartest thing it [Congress] could do. I would support that entirely.”
www.nbcnews.com
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