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Then why not just say that instead of covertly throwing names out?

Could it possibly be that you wanted to sling mud?

Or were you just trying to gather the cult? šŸ¤£

P.S. maybe the most hypocritical statement I've seen all day.
"actually address what I said then instead of taking the argument into the mud and making us all wrestle around with the pigs"
I did just say that. I've clarified it like four times now. And you're still not answering just trolling at this point.
 
Stellantis says will lay off 900 U.S. workers following tariff announcement
DETROIT (Reuters) - Stellantis NV, maker of Ram trucks and Jeeps, said on Thursday it was temporarily laying off 900 workers at five U.S. facilities after President Donald Trump's tariffs were announced, and temporarily pausing production at an assembly plant in Mexico and in Canada.

The U.S. plants affected are powertrain and stamping facilities. Stellantis' Windsor Assembly, where the Chrysler Pacifica minivan and Dodge Charger Daytona are made, will be down for two weeks while Toluca Assembly, where the Jeep Compass and Jeep Wagoneer S are made, will be down the month of April, the company said.

Stellantis took a Muscle Car company and decided to go Electric. They cooked their own bacon.
 
Politicians have always spoken half truths and presented biased information.

What is new is that now they will state and repeat 100% false, easily refutable lies ad nauseum, and the reptition plus in some cases, 35 years of indoctrination from talk radio and fox news causes people to just fall in line. Tariffs are not a tax, Ukraine started the war, DOGE is rooting out corruption, Canada is flooding the streets with Fentanyl, etc

If we do not combat this it will destroy our country. Are we winning yet?
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Trump saying crazy SH8T.
 
I just watched this thinking there was some sort of context where it made sense. Not at all, he's straight up quoting Goebbels as if he's a normal politician we should be looking to for leadership. No mention he was the lead Nazi propagandist.
One of this own GOP party members called him out on it.
 
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Trump saying crazy SH8T.
Yeah the argument the last few pages

Well politicians always lie so you can't blame Trump......Um Politicians never have lied like this before

Well Govt Surveillance has always been an issue......But the GOP has NEVER sunk to levels where they are quoting actual Nazi's as a source of why the Govt should be entitled to do it

Trump announces INSANE Tariffs based on Fictional Numbers they Made Up and the Stock market crashes .......Well Those companies started making products only Leftist Want so of course they are going to crash.

The amount of Mental Gymnastics and lack of Situational Awareness to Justify Trump using the logic listed above in just the last 3 pages of this thread is frankly.........awe inspiring....and not in a good way.
 

come on the GOP just voted to give this power up....what happened ? started giving away your checks and balances and now want them back when the person you gave the power too went off the rails with it...

SHOCKED.

US senators introduce bi-partisan bill to reassert Congressional Approval and Authority of US Issuing of Tariffs

 
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You didn't ask a question, you threw out a broad assumption about 3 or 4 people. Period.

And I'm the one trolling.
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Okay, I made an original post. I've made about 5 since then expounding upon my original post and asking you guys what you think since that's how conversations work. You refuse to move beyond my original post but I'll repeat what I've been saying one more time.

I'm not saying other politicians don't lie. That was part of the original point I made. I'm saying other politicians don't make up absolutely insane things out of thin air. Like the stolen election which resulted in Jan 6 and Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election and stay in power. Or saying Haitians in Ohio are eating pets which resulted in that city living under bomb threats for a week. Or basing your trade policy off completely fabricated tariff numbers, which is causing US markets to get decimated as we speak.

Thoughts?
 
Yeah the argument the last few pages

Well politicians always lie so you can't blame Trump......Um Politicians never have lied like this before

Well Govt Surveillance has always been an issue......But the GOP has NEVER sunk to levels where they are quoting actual Nazi's as a source of why the Govt should be entitled to do it

Trump announces INSANE Tariffs based on Fictional Numbers they Made Up and the Stock market crashes .......Well Those companies started making products only Leftist Want so of course they are going to crash.

The amount of Mental Gymnastics and lack of Situational Awareness to Justify Trump using the logic listed above in just the last 3 pages of this thread is frankly.........awe inspiring....and not in a good way.
There you go with your imagination.

Nobody said anything remotely close to this.

"Well politicians always lie so you can't blame Trump......"

Doesn't stop you from going to fake extremes though.
 
Okay, I made an original post. I've made about 5 since then expounding upon my original post and asking you guys what you think since that's how conversations work. You refuse to move beyond my original post but I'll repeat what I've been saying one more time.

I'm not saying other politicians don't lie. That was part of the original point I made. I'm saying other politicians don't make up absolutely insane things out of thin air. Like the stolen election which resulted in Jan 6 and Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election and stay in power. Or saying Haitians in Ohio are eating pets which resulted in that city living under bomb threats for a week. Or basing your trade policy off completely fabricated tariff numbers, which is causing US markets to get decimated as we speak.

Thoughts?
And I never disputed what you were saying. Except that whole using me as an example of someone who "refuses to see".

You made a false comment about me and it had nothing to do with a question. So now you want a conversation to whitewash your B.S. statement. No thanks bro. You already self-interpret my thoughts.
 
Yeah the argument the last few pages

Well politicians always lie so you can't blame Trump......Um Politicians never have lied like this before

Well Govt Surveillance has always been an issue......But the GOP has NEVER sunk to levels where they are quoting actual Nazi's as a source of why the Govt should be entitled to do it

Trump announces INSANE Tariffs based on Fictional Numbers they Made Up and the Stock market crashes .......Well Those companies started making products only Leftist Want so of course they are going to crash.

The amount of Mental Gymnastics and lack of Situational Awareness to Justify Trump using the logic listed above in just the last 3 pages of this thread is frankly.........awe inspiring....and not in a good way.
There you go with your imagination.

Nobody said anything remotely close to this.

"Well politicians always lie so you can't blame Trump......"

Doesn't stop you from going to fake extremes though.

There is jumping down the Rabbit hole. Then there is this
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Trumpā€™s Deportations Hit Major Snag as Judge Orders Man Released​

A judge has ordered the Trump administration to release a man that it wrongly detained and planned to deport to El Salvador.

In a brief one-page filing overnight Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Rolando Olvera ordered that the government not only release Adrian Gil Rojas, but that they buy him a ticket from Brownsville, Texas, back to New York.


ā€œThe Court holds that the Petitioner is a Venezuelan national with a valid Temporary Protected Status and was wrongfully detained,ā€ Olvera wrote.

ā€œThe Court further holds that Respondents produced no evidence that Petitioner is a danger to the public,ā€ he added.

The government had argued that it should be allowed to detain and deport Gil Rojas because his TPS was set to expire on April 2, but his lawyer insisted that he was in the process of reopening his immigration case, and that there was reason to believe that the Trump administrationā€™s efforts to repeal TPS would fail.

The lawyer was right: on Monday, a San Francisco judge blocked the government from revoking the protected status of about 350,000 Venezuelans. Judge Edward Chen slammed Homeland Secretary Kristi Noem for making ā€œsweeping negative generalizations about Venezuelan TPS beneficiaries.ā€
 
How to Tariffs Impact Oklahoma you may ask

Oil tanks 7% amid 'panic selling' as Trump tariffs, OPEC+ supply increases send prices reeling​

Near 11 a.m. ET on Thursday, the price of West Texas Intermediate (CL=F) crude oil, the US benchmark, fell over 7.5% to trade near $66.10 per barrel. Brent (BZ=F) crude oil, the international benchmark, was down over 7% to trade below $70 a barrel.

"The panic selling that's occurring is very likely an over-exaggeration of the true fundamentals. Near term however there's a lot of unknowns so you're seeing a lot of funds unwind positions," Dennis Kissler, senior vice president for trading at BOK Financial Securities, told Yahoo Finance on Thursday morning.
 
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