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[JTOSU]

Probably quite a few, but a bunch of Bidens early ones were undoing what Trump did last time.

It does raise a concern though-if we are going to see a bunch of executive actions go back and forth every few years it's going to be increasingly difficult to enact policy that sticks. Also it becomes an issue for civil servants as they go through their careers-its going to be hard to make careers choices in the government sector when positions that have been traditionally non partisan are subject to the whims of whichever party happens to be in charge.

It is not just EOs. It has been regulations from agencies like FCC, FTC, etc. The change, or even risk of change, of regulations hampers investment and innovation.
Of course, with last year’s SCOTUS ruling that risk might be lessened.

 

[Donnyboy]

Probably quite a few, but a bunch of Bidens early ones were undoing what Trump did last time.

It does raise a concern though-if we are going to see a bunch of executive actions go back and forth every few years it's going to be increasingly difficult to enact policy that sticks. Also it becomes an issue for civil servants as they go through their careers-its going to be hard to make careers choices in the government sector when positions that have been traditionally non partisan are subject to the whims of whichever party happens to be in charge.

Yep......

They don't govern anymore. They fuss and spend.

 

[PF5]

Yep. It would be interesting to know what number of executive orders were undoing Biden EO’s. And/or replacing ones he did in his first term.

Paris Climate Agreement
end Green New Deal
World Health Organization
Cuba - state sponsors of terrorism
Regulatory Freeze
reinstate 8,000 military service members discharged due to Covid vaccine mandate w/back pay
Pausing Foreign Aid
Remain in Mexico policy
Mount Denali back to Mount McKinley (Obama)

 

[cowboyinexile]

Paris Climate Agreement
end Green New Deal
World Health Organization
Cuba - state sponsors of terrorism
Regulatory Freeze
reinstate 8,000 military service members discharged due to Covid vaccine mandate w/back pay
Pausing Foreign Aid
Remain in Mexico policy
Mount Denali back to Mount McKinley (Obama)

Wonder why he didn't rename Denali the first time around

 

[mugatu]

Paris Climate Agreement
end Green New Deal
World Health Organization
Cuba - state sponsors of terrorism
Regulatory Freeze
reinstate 8,000 military service members discharged due to Covid vaccine mandate w/back pay
Pausing Foreign Aid
Remain in Mexico policy
Mount Denali back to Mount McKinley (Obama)

What do you mean by "end Green New Deal"?
It was never enacted, pretty sure it was just a thought exercise. Do you mean the ending the green portions of the Inflation Reduction Act or was it a completely meaningless EO?

 

[cowboyinexile]

What do you mean by "end Green New Deal"?
It was never enacted, pretty sure it was just a thought exercise. Do you mean the ending the green portions of the Inflation Reduction Act or was it a completely meaningless EO?

I'm guessing he had a few EO's that were meaningless.

 

[milehighpoke]

So we're just gonna gloss over Elon "I'm a Nazi" Musk? Resident MAGA's here, I want to hear your spin on it. I've heard he was just "grabbing his heart and throwing it out to the crowd". What are your mental gymnastics telling you this morning?

It was a Nazi salute, plain and simple. If he's "trolling the libs", it's officially jumped the shark and gone WAY too far. Not idolizing Nazis (or Russia, for that matter) used to be something we could all universally agree on.

 

[mugatu]

So we're just gonna gloss over Elon "I'm a Nazi" Musk? Resident MAGA's here, I want to hear your spin on it. I've heard he was just "grabbing his heart and throwing it out to the crowd". What are your mental gymnastics telling you this morning?

It was a Nazi salute, plain and simple. If he's "trolling the libs", it's officially jumped the shark and gone WAY too far. Not idolizing Nazis (or Russia, for that matter) used to be something we could all universally agree on.

Look at the US going backwards thread.

JT and GoGetum both brushed it off as nothing and went as far as to say calling it out was fake offense by the political extreme.

 

[milehighpoke]

Look at the US going backwards thread.

JT and GoGetum both brushed it off as nothing and went as far as to say calling it out was fake offense by the political extreme.

Just read that, it's insane.

Every single person should be offended by it. It was a Nazi salute. EVERY SINGLE PERSON should be offended.

Not all trump supporters are nazis, but it sure seems all nazis are trump supporters.

This country is doomed.

 

[GratefulPoke]

A German perspective:

Elon Musk: Ein Hitlergruß ist ein Hitlergruß ist ein Hitlergruß

Elon Musk streckt den rechten Arm, und alle springen drüber. Willkommen im neuen Aufmerksamkeitsregime.

www.zeit.de

 

[cowboyinexile]

So we're just gonna gloss over Elon "I'm a Nazi" Musk? Resident MAGA's here, I want to hear your spin on it. I've heard he was just "grabbing his heart and throwing it out to the crowd". What are your mental gymnastics telling you this morning?

It was a Nazi salute, plain and simple. If he's "trolling the libs", it's officially jumped the shark and gone WAY too far. Not idolizing Nazis (or Russia, for that matter) used to be something we could all universally agree on.

I was dismissive at first because I thought no way in the world he meant it that way. But it's not the first time he has done something like this and it was dismissed as Elon being Elon. At some point though, if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, you have to realize that it's a duck.

If someone wants to defend it (or use out of context images to say everyone does it) I suggest they record themselves doing the same thing, post it on social media, and let us know how that turns out.

 

[Big Huck]

Just read that, it's insane.

Every single person should be offended by it. It was a Nazi salute. EVERY SINGLE PERSON should be offended.

Not all trump supporters are nazis, but it sure seems all nazis are trump supporters.

This country is doomed.

But the self-proclaimed defender of billionaires JT has assured us Elon just has a very specific strand of autism that causes him to throw up Nazi salutes in front of crowds of cheering white Republicans. If you're not on the spectrum you wouldn't understand.

 

[JTOSU]

Look at the US going backwards thread.

JT and GoGetum both brushed it off as nothing and went as far as to say calling it out was fake offense by the political extreme.

Seriously you slept on this and still are spewing this disgusting nonsense? You understand he is autistic, but instead of grace you attack in a vile way? And you read what the ADL put out, but believe you somehow know better than them?

Again I realize some of you apparently are having a tough week. But at some point the political extremes need to stop this behavior and realize it is counterproductive. Just stop

 

[PF5]

What do you mean by "end Green New Deal"?
It was never enacted, pretty sure it was just a thought exercise. Do you mean the ending the green portions of the Inflation Reduction Act or was it a completely meaningless EO?

from BBC:

Trump has halted the Green New Deal, a series of Biden measures that were aimed at boosting green jobs, regulating the fossil fuel industry and limiting pollution.

He has ordered agencies to halt funds appropriated through two laws, the Inflation Reduction Act and another law on infrastructure and jobs. He said the US would end leasing to wind farms and revoke what he calls an electric vehicle "mandate".

 

[PF5]

Seriously you slept on this and still are spewing this disgusting nonsense? You understand he is autistic, but instead of grace you attack in a vile way? And you read what the ADL put out, but believe you somehow know better than them?

Again I realize some of you apparently are having a tough week. But at some point the political extremes need to stop this behavior and realize it is counterproductive. Just stop

but he´s autistic...but the ADL says it´s not what he intended...whatever helps you sleep better at night...

 

[cowboyinexile]

Seriously you slept on this and still are spewing this disgusting nonsense? You understand he is autistic, but instead of grace you attack in a vile way? And you read what the ADL put out, but believe you somehow know better than them?

Again I realize some of you apparently are having a tough week. But at some point the political extremes need to stop this behavior and realize it is counterproductive. Just stop

You could say I disagree with Nazi imagery and he shouldn't have done that. It's not that hard to say that is it?

 

[Vakarian74]

So we're just gonna gloss over Elon "I'm a Nazi" Musk? Resident MAGA's here, I want to hear your spin on it. I've heard he was just "grabbing his heart and throwing it out to the crowd". What are your mental gymnastics telling you this morning?

It was a Nazi salute, plain and simple. If he's "trolling the libs", it's officially jumped the shark and gone WAY too far. Not idolizing Nazis (or Russia, for that matter) used to be something we could all universally agree on.

You just have juicey liberal tears. There’s nothing wrong with what musk did. Isn’t that right @swamppoke ?

 

[Big Huck]

A German perspective:

Elon Musk: Ein Hitlergruß ist ein Hitlergruß ist ein Hitlergruß

Elon Musk streckt den rechten Arm, und alle springen drüber. Willkommen im neuen Aufmerksamkeitsregime.

www.zeit.de

Seems it's behind a paywall.

 

[PF5]

Presidential inauguration fact check: Analyzing claims from and about Trump

The USA TODAY Fact Check Team analyzes claims from Donald Trump's presidential inauguration.

www.usatoday.com

 

[cowboyinexile]