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Appeals court denies Trump’s bid to reinstate Trump EO trying to end the 14th Amendment Constitutionally protected birthright citizenship (Decision delivered by Trump appointed Judge)​


A federal appeals court panel denied a Justice Department bid to reinstate President Donald Trump’s executive order aimed at curbing birthright citizenship, edging the battle over the order’s constitutionality closer to a potential Supreme Court showdown.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit declined on Wednesday the administration’s emergency request to immediately lift a nationwide block on Trump’s executive order, rejecting its claim that the preliminary injunction was overly broad. It is the first time an appellate panel has weighed in on one of the several lawsuits challenging Trump’s birthright citizenship order.


Justice Department lawyers had argued that the court’s injunction which blocked Trump’s order nationwide after a lawsuit from four Democratic-led states was harmful because it stymied Trump’s effort to “address the ongoing crisis at the southern border” and implement an immigration policy designed to combat “significant threats to national security and public safety.”

The three-judge panel unanimously rejected the request, with Judges William C. Canby Jr. and Milan D. Smith Jr. writing in their order that the administration had not made a “strong showing” that it would succeed on the merits of its appeal.

In a six-page concurring opinion, Judge Danielle Forrest wrote that setting aside a court order on an emergency basis should be the exception rather than the rule, and that the injunction did not meet the bar. “A controversy, yes. Even an important controversy, yes. An emergency, not necessarily,” wrote Forrest, who was nominated to her seat by Trump in 2019.
 

Trump Again Claims He Put Musk ‘In Charge’ Of DOGE, Contradicting His Own DOJ​


President Donald Trump Wednesday evening again asserted that he put billionaire Elon Musk “in charge” of his “Department of Government Efficiency,” contradicting his own Department of Justice, which is claiming that Musk is merely a White House adviser with no authority.

“I signed an order creating the Department of Government Efficiency and put a man named Elon Musk in charge,” Trump said at a Saudi Arabian financial conference in Miami Beach, with Musk sitting in the audience. “Thank you, Elon, for doing it. And he’s doing a great job.”


Musk has repeatedly claimed that he and his band of assistants who are currently rampaging through various federal agency computer systems have found “fraud” and “corruption,” and that as a result he has canceled contracts, laid off staff and even eliminated agencies.

Trump’s remarks will likely provide yet more evidence for the Trump critics who have been filing legal challenges against DOGE’s layoffs and cancellations of contracts and grants, on the grounds that Musk’s efforts to cut the government are illegal because Musk has no actual authority to make those decisions. To counter that argument, DOJ lawyers filed an affidavit from a White House official on Monday stating that, to the contrary, Musk is just a White House adviser among many and that he is not in charge of DOGE. DOGE’s actual administrator, who to this point has not been identified, is the person actually making the cuts, the DOJ has argued.
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Wow this made National News​

Hundreds of Univ of Oklahoma, Oklahoma State Univ, Univ of Tulsa employees at risk over research funds cuts


WASHINGTON – Colleges and universities nationwide are outraged over a new policy from the National Institute of Health that would decrease overall grant research funding nationwide.

Last Friday, the NIH shocked research universities including the University of Oklahoma, Oklahoma State University, and The University of Tulsa with a new policy requiring all current and future grants to reduce their indirect costs to 15%. This cut of funds has left 2,500 universities scrambling to re-evaluate the fiscal costs of their research.


Hundreds of OU and OSU employees could be at risk because of the decision by the Trump administration.

Indirect costs can be anything from the maintenance of space to the administrative costs needed to apply for more grants. The long-standing philosophy in the research world has been that indirect costs should sit around 30% of the total cost of research.

Last year, the University of Oklahoma Health Sciences Center received over $50 million in NIH grants, 43% of which went to indirect costs.

The university expected these grants to continue into the next fiscal year, however, with these cuts, it is unlikely that the University will receive the same amount. The HSC relies on NIH grants as the primary source of funding for all of its research.

Federal cuts in funding impacts Oklahoma’s university research programs​

Universities fear that the NIH move is the first of others that will impact federal research programs ranging from defense, atmospheric and oceanic sciences, and other medicine-related federal grant programs led by the National Science Foundation and the Department of Health and Human Services.


According to Mary Beth Humphrey, Vice President of Research at the University of Oklahoma Health Science Center, the major concern that the University has is retroactive cuts. The Friday memo cutting funding also included allusions to the Universities that have received grants in the past having to pay back some of their indirect costs from previous years and grants.

“That money is going to come from other sources on campus,” Humphrey said. The HSC may have to cut salaries for faculty, decrease the expansion of their research, and halt the replacement of some equipment and technology, she said. She said it was too early to tell what impact the cuts could have.

University leaders respond to federal funding changes​

This memo is unprecedented in NIH history. Budget cuts have occurred for grants previously but never to indirect costs. “This is a totally new experience…it didn’t cut everything across the board to 15%,” Humphrey said.

In 1986, the NIH cut direct cost grants by a total of $236 million, this proposed grant cut could exceed $8 billion.


Overall, the University of Oklahoma saw a 50% increase in federal grants in 2023 across the board with the Norman campus also receiving nine individual NIH grants.

OU President Joe Harroz said in a statement Monday, “The OU enterprise across our campuses is assessing budget implications and continues to be engaged and thoughtful about best ways forward.”

In the same statement, Harroz offered support to the OU health system’s patients who will be directly affected by these cuts. The clinical trials the university conducts have regulatory requirements that these funding cuts would limit.

Humphrey said, “if you don’t have money to pay for the people who are doing the regulatory piece, you’re going to have to limit the number of studies you can do which will impact the health of Oklahomans by limiting their access to clinical trials.”

USAID cuts result in Oklahoma layoffs​

Across the country, university agriculture research programs funded by the USAID, which the Trump administration targeted because of its association with foreign aid, are being shuttered effective April 15 and employees being laid off.

Oklahoma State University had a longstanding connection to USAID going back to the 1940s under the Truman administration. Since then, OSU has helped to introduce agricultural innovations to foreign nations through this partnership.


Representative Tom Cole (R-Moore), a graduate of OU with a PhD in history, said that there is a great misunderstanding over how the NIH grants work and how the funding cuts will actually be implemented.

“I don’t see colleges as having scammed the system,” Cole said.

Cole also referenced legislation from 2017 that he had written and passed that included protections for NIH grants. Cole was the chairman of the appropriations subcommittee that handled federal education grants.

At the time Cole said, “Sadly, if we’re going to actually do what needs to be done at NIH and continue on this path of reinvigorating biomedical research and having a sustainable growth pattern, we’re going to have make some difficult decisions elsewhere in the budget.”

The White House also pushed back against the backlash saying that other private sources of funding for Universities have a much lower threshold for indirect costs built into their grants. “Many foundations do not fund indirect costs whatsoever,” the administration claimed in a statement on Monday.


However, according to Humphrey, this policy will drastically affect research institutions with smaller endowments that do not have the finances to fall back on.

The University of Oklahoma is a top 100 research university with a total endowment of $1.6 billion. But compared to Harvard University, which has the largest endowment of $50.87 billion, OU has a fraction of the funds to fall back on without NIH grants.

In 2022, OU spent a total of $416 million on research expenditures with an increase of 11% on federal expenditures. This, as a part of the “Lead on University” plan, helped the university student population to grow by 11%.

But, according to Humprey, the decrease in federal research funds will impact the HSC’s enrollment. She said, “This is really going to affect our recruiting.”

Last week, a federal judge in Massachusetts blocked the NIH funding cuts after 22 state attorneys general sued.


They argued in the suit that, “NIH’s extraordinary attempt to disrupt all existing and future grants not only poses an immediate threat to the nation’s research infrastructure, but will also have a long-lasting impact on its research capabilities and its ability to provide life-saving breakthroughs in scientific research.”
 
@Polds4OSU, seriously who pays you?

There is no way you are a real poster on this message board. 2nd highest poster on this entire site yet not a peep in any Sports Boards.

These threads had some flow when you disappeared after the elections. Did your employer decide that it was still worth mustering up $0.10 a post to keep the fight going after the election?
 
@Polds4OSU, seriously who pays you?

There is no way you are a real poster on this message board. 2nd highest poster on this entire site yet not a peep in any Sports Boards.

These threads had some flow when you disappeared after the elections. Did your employer decide that it was still worth mustering up $0.10 a post to keep the fight going after the election?
I suggest you use the Ignore Feature on this board.

Yes I'm real, I have a degree from OSU and OU both. I have multiple kids in multiple different colleges in Oklahoma right now, I work with some people on this very board on a daily basis in my job.

I don't talk sports on this board because I am a GIANT basketball Nut...and well ever since Travis Ford killed the OSU program, haven't had much to talk about.

I lived in Bennett Hall (before Air Conditioning, WiFi, Internet and Cell Phones), I attended the first ever Orange Peel, I met my wife at Tumbleweeds.

I don't care what you think of my posting habits. Again, I suggest the Ignore Feature. If you don't know Gen X thrives and survives in Chaos. If you understand ALL the Chaos that is occurring at once, you will see the path through it or around it. OR EVEN JUST MAYBE.......see THROUGH the BS of the Chaos and realize what is really happening.
 

DOGE released data about federal contract savings. It doesn't add up​

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A new online tracker on the Department of Government Efficiency's website puts a dollar amount on the estimated savings from the DOGE effort to slash federal government spending at $55 billion.

But an NPR analysis finds the numbers don't add up.

The DOGE site's posts, reminiscent of a feed on the Musk-owned social media site X, say some savings come from sources like "fraud detection/deletion" and "workforce reductions, programmatic changes, and regulatory savings," and state that the full disclosure of the unit's actions will take time.

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Tesla and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk speaks as President Trump signed an executive order about limiting the size of the federal workforce. Musk is leading the Department of Government Efficiency team that claims to have uncovered billions of dollars of savings, though the data underlying those claims is murky.

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Musk claims DOGE is saving taxpayers billions, but the data is unclear

"We are working to upload all of this data in a digestible and fully transparent manner with clear assumptions, consistent with applicable rules and regulations," the website reads. "To get started, listed below are a subset of contract and lease cancellations."

The doge.gov/savings page then lists a "wall of receipts," DOGE's first major data release that initially claimed to show more than $16 billion in savings from ending contracts. After correcting an apparent clerical error, it now shows $8.5 billion.

An NPR review of the more than 1,100 contracts in that initial release finds that DOGE's "maximally transparent" calculations still overstate its estimated savings totals by billions of dollars.


Discrepancies paint an incomplete picture​

Of the DOGE list's initial claim of $16 billion in savings, half came from an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) listing that was entered into the Federal Procurement Data System (FPDS) in 2022 with a whopping $8 billion maximum possible value.

According to a DOGE post on X, that number was a typo that was corrected in the contract database to $8 million on Jan. 22 of this year before being terminated a week later, and DOGE "has always used the correct $8M in its calculations."

But for much of this week, DOGE listed the outdated $8 billion for its savings claims while linking to the termination notice with the smaller ceiling amount.

Some time Tuesday evening, the DOGE link was changed to point at the original $8 billion entry, and on Wednesday morning, the site was revised once again to show $8 million in savings — but still linked to the larger, outdated claim. The site also continues to list $55 billion in total estimated savings — the $8.5 billion in alleged contract savings and another $46.5 billion with no specifically documented source.

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Spokespeople for the White House and DOGE did not respond to multiple requests for clarification about the DOGE data and savings claims shared online.


Others discrepancies in DOGE's representation of data are more technical: The ICE example is also one of many DOGE entries that is not actually a contract, but rather a different procurement method known as a blanket purchase agreement where the high maximum value acts as a sort of large line of credit for orders to be "called" against.

Since the agreement began in late 2022, ICE used it three times for work that totaled $3.5 million, for possible savings of $4.5 million – just over half of what the corrected DOGE data claimed.

Government contracting and budget experts say including those terminations in their estimates is one of many ways DOGE isn't sharing the complete picture of government spending and saving.

What the DOGE data shows​

Just over half of the contracts touted by DOGE, accounting for $6.5 billion in alleged savings, haven't actually been terminated or closed out as of Wednesday, according to an NPR analysis of a federal government procurement database, even though the site's "wall of receipts" listed these items.

That includes a billion dollar IT support contract with the Social Security Administration that actually added $1.8 million in obligated spending and additional funding for a Forest Service project management contract worth up to nearly $30 million.

More than a third of the listed contracts posted online would not actually save any money if canceled, according to DOGE.

In all, estimated savings from the initial DOGE list of just over 500 contracts that NPR found to be cancelled runs closer to $2 billion, with roughly half coming from the gutting of the Department of Education, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the U.S. Agency for International Development.

The contracts DOGE has targeted at these agencies include ending research studies into early childhood education improvements, canceling access to financial market resources and the proposed halting of billions in international foreign aid work. To check DOGE's claims, NPR compared the unique award ID from each hyperlink DOGE published with a list of more than 130,000 contracts that have been modified since Jan. 20, downloaded from USASpending.gov, another public data source to review government spending.

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Why does this matter?​

"There's no doubt that these young people [Musk] has working for him are very intelligent coders, genius coders, but they're limited," retired senior contracting officer Christopher Byrne said, referring to DOGE team members who have apparently been identifying cuts across government agencies. "They don't understand the processes, they don't understand how things work, they don't understand contracts, they don't understand grants," Byrne said.

Six other current and former federal contracting officers who spoke with NPR on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation say that the DOGE savings page is misleading the public with the data it includes — like overemphasizing the maximum possible value of contracts cancelled — as well as with what it leaves out, they say, like how much has already been budgeted and spent to fulfill the contract.

Jessica Riedl, a senior fellow at the center-right Manhattan Institute who studies ways to cut extraneous government spending, says DOGE is doing more harm than good to the government in how it has cut costs and shared them with the public.

"A smarter way to reform contracting would actually cost money in the short term," Riedl said. "Because it requires audits, it requires analysis, building new systems, building new controls rather than just going through with a chainsaw and trying to cut contracts almost randomly."

Politics

A federal judge has denied states' bid to halt DOGE and Musk's work

Byrne, whose contracting career spanned more than 20 years and included work with the General Services Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Navy, says DOGE's website is also missing basic information needed to track and understand federal spending, like the ID number, what type of agreement or contract method was used and whether the cancellation was for some or all of the spending. Several publicly available data sources already track and confirm changes to federal contracts, including the Federal Procurement Data System, USASpending.gov and the System for Award Management (SAM). Unlike DOGE, those sources list other relevant data like the current value of the contract, historical changes to the amount budgeted and spent for the contract and when the contracts begin and end.

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DOGE's savings page also does not include any evidence of fraud, waste or abuse in contracts, but does highlight ideological differences between the Trump administration and the previous priorities of former President Joe Biden.

As for contracts, Byrne said the discrepancy in DOGE data shows why information being entered into those systems by the government needs better validation and standardization to be more transparent.

He added that shortcomings with the current training, staffing levels and processes among contracting officers could be exacerbated by potential retirements and firings in coming months under the Trump administration's plan to downsize the federal workforce.

"There are not the people available to do the job, to do it well," he said, "which is going to lead to more wasteful spending."

How much will actually be saved?​

Even government contracts that have been terminated before reaching their full value could end up costing taxpayers more to settle up. Jessica Tillipman, associate dean for government procurement law studies at The George Washington University Law School, previously told NPR that the termination for convenience clause used for many of these cancellations is expensive.

"When the government terminates a contract for convenience, it's still obligated to pay for the work completed," she said. "This doesn't eliminate the government's responsibility for paying these sorts of costs."

Riedl with the Manhattan Institute also says that the only way for the federal government to cut spending and reduce the deficit is through meaningful — and difficult — changes enacted by Congress, and not DOGE creating a "false perception" that finding "waste, fraud and abuse" is enough to get there.

More than 60% of the $6.8 trillion the federal government spent last fiscal year was mandatory spending on popular programs like Medicare, Social Security and income security programs — spending that would require major legislative reforms to substantially reduce.

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NPR's analysis found that, of its verifiable work completed so far, DOGE has cut just $2 billion in spending — less than three hundredths of a percent of last fiscal year's federal spending.

"Think of Congress and its budget as the debt-ridden dad on the way to buy a $250,000 Ferrari on the credit card, and DOGE is the $2 off gas card he used along the way," Riedl said. "It's great that he saved $2 on gas, but I think his wife may be more concerned about the $250,000 car."


 
I suggest you use the Ignore Feature on this board.

Yes I'm real, I have a degree from OSU and OU both. I have multiple kids in multiple different colleges in Oklahoma right now, I work with some people on this very board on a daily basis in my job.

I don't talk sports on this board because I am a GIANT basketball Nut...and well ever since Travis Ford killed the OSU program, haven't had much to talk about.

I lived in Bennett Hall (before Air Conditioning, WiFi, Internet and Cell Phones), I attended the first ever Orange Peel, I met my wife at Tumbleweeds.

I don't care what you think of my posting habits. Again, I suggest the Ignore Feature. If you don't know Gen X thrives and survives in Chaos. If you understand ALL the Chaos that is occurring at once, you will see the path through it or around it. OR EVEN JUST MAYBE.......see THROUGH the BS of the Chaos and realize what is really happening.

Yeah, the longest I've kept anyone on ignore is a day....and I've been here for 15 years.

But you post a lot of BS on here from BS sources. And you do so at a rate that you are clearly not taking in what you post and are clearly not trying to create a dialect with the board. The admins allow it so you be you. Doesn't mean you shouldn't be called out on it for what it is.
 
So if the COVID pay was partially blamed for inflation, what is a $5k check to everyone gonna do?
I see what you are trying to compare, but from the way it was promoted …this is simply moving already appropriated funds from an exterior group to people that paid the taxes.
Unlike stimulus money, this is not “printing money”.

Although I am always in favor of returning money to taxpayers…I would have hoped that finding waste would help lower annual deficit. A better idea would be to bank the savings during current fiscal year and then not spend that waste in out years.
 
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Yeah, the longest I've kept anyone on ignore is a day....and I've been here for 15 years.

But you post a lot of BS on here from BS sources. And you do so at a rate that you are clearly not taking in what you post and are clearly not trying to create a dialect with the board. The admins allow it so you be you. Doesn't mean you shouldn't be called out on it for what it is.
Certainly 1st world complaint, and yes I can and do just ignore his spamming of questionable sourced material, but it was nice from Nov 7th to a few weeks ago.
 
Yeah, the longest I've kept anyone on ignore is a day....and I've been here for 15 years.

But you post a lot of BS on here from BS sources. And you do so at a rate that you are clearly not taking in what you post and are clearly not trying to create a dialect with the board. The admins allow it so you be you. Doesn't mean you shouldn't be called out on it for what it is.
Ohh I'm always willing to drill down and go into great detail over items I post. I promise you I will NOT post anything I'm not willing to go down the rabbit hole and use your own logic to destroy your own argument against it. Problem is, People USED to take the bait all the time...no one wants to take the bait any more with me.......I wonder why.
 
I suggest you use the Ignore Feature on this board.

Yes I'm real, I have a degree from OSU and OU both. I have multiple kids in multiple different colleges in Oklahoma right now, I work with some people on this very board on a daily basis in my job.

I don't talk sports on this board because I am a GIANT basketball Nut...and well ever since Travis Ford killed the OSU program, haven't had much to talk about.

I lived in Bennett Hall (before Air Conditioning, WiFi, Internet and Cell Phones), I attended the first ever Orange Peel, I met my wife at Tumbleweeds.

I don't care what you think of my posting habits. Again, I suggest the Ignore Feature. If you don't know Gen X thrives and survives in Chaos. If you understand ALL the Chaos that is occurring at once, you will see the path through it or around it. OR EVEN JUST MAYBE.......see THROUGH the BS of the Chaos and realize what is really happening.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A BOT WOULD SAY. 😉
 
I believe it's households and only those who paid net positive in taxes. So if you got a refund, no check for you.

That doesn't make any sense. So if you gave the government a short term intrest free loan you get the shaft, but if you shorted the government here is a wad of cash?

What's my incentive to not pay taxes this year if I know there is a good chance Trump is gonna give me a get out of jail free card next April?

Also, this year (and most) I got a refund from the federal government but paid into the state. Usually it comes out to a small refund but this year I had a $500 deficit. No luck for me even though combined I paid in?

I'm complaining if this is how it goes. As much as I would love $5K I'm not gonna starve without it. It just seems like a random solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
 

‘This Is An Outrage’: Kristi Noem Sparks Panic By Revoking TPS (temp protected status) for Thousands of Venezuelans the Biden admin had extended for 18 months.​


Rep. Maria Elvira Salazar said, “Venezuela’s Dictator Nicolas Maduro jails, beats, rapes, and kills anyone who speaks against him, and that’s why I supported TPS for Venezuelans fleeing political persecution,” adding, “There is a simple solution to this: Maduro has to go! Trump is the only force to get him out. Once Maduro is gone — there will be peace for Venezuelans.”

Rep. Darren Soto wrote, “This is an outrage! Venezuela is currently a violent dictatorship. Thousands have fled to Florida to join family members here through the TPS Program.”

Link...Miami Hearld Newspaper

 
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