Trump 2024 Run Thread

Yea, but as usual he was telling lies. Five of the top six American made cars are EVs. Tradition "American" car companies don't even make the top ten. (Corvette finally in at 19th). The guy is simply a fraud and the average MAGA imbecile just takes the lies he says as gospel. Our incompetent media focuses on the titilating stuff (But, but he said bloodbath!!) instead of being relentless in pointing out that he is telling factual lies.

What was scheduled to be a guest appearance by former President Donald Trump at a campaign rally for Ohio Senate candidate Bernie Moreno, quickly turned into Trump saying there would be a "bloodbath" for the country if he doesn’t win 2024, while railing against the electric vehicle industry manufacturing automobiles outside the U.S. and using disparaging language to describe undocumented immigrants.

"We're gonna put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not gonna be able to sell those guys if I get elected," Trump said while criticizing overseas manufacturing production.

"Now, if I don't get elected, it's gonna be a bloodbath for the whole ... that's gonna be the least of it, it's gonna be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it."

Trump's campaign has pushed back on claims Trump was talking about violence throughout the country should he lose reelection in 2024, arguing he was talking about the destruction of the auto industry.

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Backlash to Trump’s ‘bloodbath’ comment SLAMMED by Elon Musk as 'lies'

Backlash to Donald Trump's comment about the American car manufacturing industry has been slammed as "lies" by Elon Musk.

There was fury from some Democrat politicians as the former President said there would be a "bloodbath" if he loses the presidential election in November.

It comes as Trump has won a series of delays as he seeks to avoid going to trial on any of four criminal indictments before the US election on November 5.

The Republican former president aims to unseat President Joe Biden in a rematch of the 2020 election. Trump has denied any wrongdoing.


Speaking at the rally, Trump said: "China now is building a couple of massive plants where they're going to build the cars in Mexico and they think they're going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the boarder free.

"If you're listening President Xi and you and I are friends but he understands the way I deal. Those big monster car manufacturing plants that you're building in Mexico right now and you think you're going to get that and not hire Americans and you're going to sell the cars to us.


"We’re going to put a 100 per cent tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected.

"Now if I don’t get elected it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole – that’s going to be the least of it, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars."


Elon Musk took to social media to accuse what he called "legacy media" of "lies" about the comment.

Meanwhile, Republican representative from Ohio Mike Turner said Sunday it was clear that former President Donald Trump’s reference to "a bloodbath" should he lose the November election pertained to the auto industry, not to a surge of political violence.

Responding to the backlash to Trump's comments, Novara Media co-founder Aaron Bastani said: "This is categorical, unashamed fake news. It’s active misinformation.

"Trump was talking about Chinese cars manufactured in Mexico! Utterly appalling - people don’t trust the media because of this stuff. It’s unadulterated fake news."

Louisiana senator Bill Cassidy told NBC’s Meet the Press that he was dubious about the uproar over Trump’s language on Saturday, however he was more sceptical about the way Trump speaks, admitting it does leave him open to frequent criticism.

He said: "You could also look at the definition of bloodbath and it could be an economic disaster. And so if he’s speaking about the auto industry, in particular in Ohio, then you can take it a little bit more context.

"The general tone of the speech is why many Americans continue to wonder, 'Should President Trump be president?' That kind of rhetoric, it’s always on the edge, maybe doesn’t cross, maybe does depending upon your perspective."

Meanwhile, former Democrat House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told CNN's State of the Union: "We just have to win this election, because he’s even predicting a bloodbath...What does that mean? He’s going to exact a bloodbath?"
 
Something tells me he will find a way to "surmount".
Former President Donald Trump is facing "insurmountable difficulties" in obtaining a bond to satisfy the $464 million civil fraud judgment, his attorneys said Monday in a new appellate court filing, and the magnitude of which would require him to use real estate as collateral.


Judge Arthur Engoron in February ordered Trump to pay $464 million in disgorgement and interest after holding him liable for doing a decade's worth of business with fraudulent financial statements that overvalued his real estate holdings and hyped his wealth. Trump was also barred from leading any New York company for three years. His sons Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump were also fined $4 million apiece and barred for two years.

"Defendants have faced what have proven to be insurmountable difficulties in obtaining an appeal bond for the full $464 million," according to an affirmation by Trump Organization general counsel Alan Garten.

While Garten said Trump is "financially stable" and maintains "substantial assets," the magnitude of the judgment would require him to use his real estate as collateral for the bond. So far, according to Garten's affirmation, no surety bond provider approached by Trump is willing to accept real estate as collateral, including Chubb, the insurance giant underwriting Trump's $91.6 million bond to cover the $83 million judgment in the E. Jean Carroll defamation case, plus interest.


"For Defendants, this presents a major obstacle," Garten wrote.


Trump's attorneys, who have called the judgment "unconstitutionally excessive," asked an appellate court again on Monday to allow Trump to secure a bond in a lesser amount.

"Obtaining such cash through a 'fire sale' of real estate holdings would inevitably result in massive, irrecoverable losses -- textbook irreparable injury," defense lawyers Alina Habba and Clifford Robert wrote.

According to the filing, Gary Guilietti -- the president of insurance surety Lockton Companies who testified in Trump's defense at trial -- has helped coordinate the Trump Organization's outreach to bond companies. Guilietti said in an affidavit that surety companies have not allowed the Trump Organization to use its properties as collateral, leaving the company with the only option of posting 120% of the bond in the form of cash and cash equivalents, totaling $557,491,716.

"While it is my understanding that the Trump Organization is in a strong liquidity position, it does not have $1 billion in cash or cash equivalents," Guilietti wrote.


The New York Attorney General's Office has objected to a lesser bond, arguing Trump and his co-defendants "will attempt to evade enforcement of the judgment or to make enforcement more difficult."

The former president has denied all wrongdoing and has said he will appeal.

Engoron ordered Trump to pay pre-judgment interest on each ill-gotten gain -- with interest accruing based on the date of each transaction -- as well as a 9% post-judgment interest rate once the court enters the judgment in the case.

University of Michigan business law professor Will Thomas previously told ABC News the interest not only adds to Trump's mounting legal bills but will likely also guide the former president's approach to his appeal.

Trump will continue to accrue interest on the fine during his lengthy appeal of Engoron's ruling, unless he deposits the full amount of the fine into an escrow account, according to Thomas.

While Trump's appeal will prompt an automatic stay of the enforcement of Engoron's ruling, Trump needs to first put money into an escrow account or post a bond in order to appeal.

If Trump decides to post a bond to cover the fine during his appeal, the interest will continue to accrue during his appeal, adding potentially tens of millions of dollars in the process.
 
They should definitely begin the process to seize his property then right? Take lots of video and splash it all over MSM. They are going to assure a Trump victory in November and probably a Republican majority for a generation. The same quack Att. General also filed suit against JBS claiming that they won't be able to reach net zero emissions by 2040 .....16 years from now. Clown world.
 
They should definitely begin the process to seize his property then right? Take lots of video and splash it all over MSM. They are going to assure a Trump victory in November and probably a Republican majority for a generation. The same quack Att. General also filed suit against JBS claiming that they won't be able to reach net zero emissions by 2040 .....16 years from now. Clown world.
I don't know about all those things as that is pure speculation...I just know about what the reality of the situation is now

Unsure of the next moves or what happens . But will post it when it does
 
They should definitely begin the process to seize his property then right? Take lots of video and splash it all over MSM. They are going to assure a Trump victory in November and probably a Republican majority for a generation. The same quack Att. General also filed suit against JBS claiming that they won't be able to reach net zero emissions by 2040 .....16 years from now. Clown world.
How absurd. Why should I want to vote for Trump because he was so stupid that he couldn't honestly manage his personal affairs and now wants to try to run the country again. He already proved he couldn't run his businesses without going into bankruptcy several times. He may be in such bad shape by August that Roger Stone may start spreading rumors about who Republicans are going to replace him with.
 
They should definitely begin the process to seize his property then right? Take lots of video and splash it all over MSM. They are going to assure a Trump victory in November and probably a Republican majority for a generation. The same quack Att. General also filed suit against JBS claiming that they won't be able to reach net zero emissions by 2040 .....16 years from now. Clown world.
I kinda get what you are saying but I think this underestimates the true depth of his problems.

1) He’s cash strapped in a big way and it’s going to get worse for both he and the RNC and down ballot Rs needing national support

2) why won’t the insurance companies take assets as collateral? My guess is 3 fold and we are fixing to find out.
A) He is leveraged to the hilt and we don’t know what % he truly owns and who owns the rest.

B)The buildings truly are overvalued proving his fraud and the extent of it.

C) St of NY seizure likely triggers default in his debt which will cause a debt call further exacerbating his cash flow problems and likely line creditors up for liquidation. This is likely why most if not all insurers stayed away bc they knew they would end up at the back of the line.

I agree that the suckers of Magastan will continue to eat up the woe is me and the grifters of Magastan will continue to profit off the suckers.

But this won’t be some complicated financial transaction that I s explained away. This has the potential to collapse his charade and just reinforce his danger to the indies and non maga Rs.

Also this will culminate w his felony conviction on NYState charges just ahead of the convention. He got worse news today than the bond news when it was ruled that Stormy & Cohen could testify and other evidence is admissible. Stormy Daniels testifying to the details of the affair will play on loop for months. You can’t even put a price on the campaign boost to that. It’s why he paid her off in the first place.
 
I kinda get what you are saying but I think this underestimates the true depth of his problems.

1) He’s cash strapped in a big way and it’s going to get worse for both he and the RNC and down ballot Rs needing national support

2) why won’t the insurance companies take assets as collateral? My guess is 3 fold and we are fixing to find out.
A) He is leveraged to the hilt and we don’t know what % he truly owns and who owns the rest.

B)The buildings truly are overvalued proving his fraud and the extent of it.

C) St of NY seizure likely triggers default in his debt which will cause a debt call further exacerbating his cash flow problems and likely line creditors up for liquidation. This is likely why most if not all insurers stayed away bc they knew they would end up at the back of the line.

I agree that the suckers of Magastan will continue to eat up the woe is me and the grifters of Magastan will continue to profit off the suckers.

But this won’t be some complicated financial transaction that I s explained away. This has the potential to collapse his charade and just reinforce his danger to the indies and non maga Rs.

Also this will culminate w his felony conviction on NYState charges just ahead of the convention. He got worse news today than the bond news when it was ruled that Stormy & Cohen could testify and other evidence is admissible. Stormy Daniels testifying to the details of the affair will play on loop for months. You can’t even put a price on the campaign boost to that. It’s why he paid her off in the first place.
They continue to make a martyr of him and energize his base and my prediction is they will turn out in droves to vote for him and against this insanity. Nobody is going to be hauling arse to go vote for Biden. Simple question…Do you honestly think this case was even brought if it wasn’t Trump on the other end of it?
 
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