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[Polds4OSU]

 

[CowboyJD]

This is what I've been saying. All media lies to make which ever side they're promoting look good. But somehow it killed my "credibility" and I love FoxNews.
It the past, the news was the news, not politics. We should return to that. Be a lot less people outraged and triggeroo'd.

Social media sites/sources are even worse.

 

[Rob B.]

Social media sites/sources are even worse.

Same bad. Still news.

 

[CowboyJD]

Same bad. Still news.

Not same bad.

Not news.

Algorithms aren’t designed to just make whichever side they’re promoting “look good”, they’re designed to provoke, enrage, and radicalize and to keep you that way.

Social media is fundamentally different than traditional news media or even alt-news media like NewsMax.

 

[Rob B.]

Not same bad.

Not news.

Algorithms aren’t designed to just make whichever side they’re promoting “look good”, they’re designed to provoke, enrage, and radicalize and to keep you that way.

Social media is fundamentally different than traditional news media or even alt-news media like NewsMax.

Huh! Most of what I see on social media is ripped straight from Fox, CNN, NewsMax, Politico and some even more extreme.

 

[CowboyJD]

Huh! Most of what I see on social media is ripped straight from Fox, CNN, NewsMax, Politico and some even more extreme.

Really?

Because most of what I see you copying and pasting from social media and posting here definitely isn’t that.

 

[Rob B.]

Really?

Because most of what I see you copying and pasting from social media and posting here definitely isn’t that.

Interesting take.
I just looked at my feed and see


Shared this.

View this content on Instagram

View this content on Instagram

And a whole bunch of Olympic athlete behind the scene stories. But OK.

 

[CowboyJD]

Interesting take.
I just looked at my feed and see
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Shared this.

View this content on Instagram

View this content on Instagram

And a whole bunch of Olympic athlete behind the scene stories. But OK.

OK, indeed.

You’re cherry picking. You know it. I know it. Everybody knows it.

How many of the memes in that thread did you make yourself instead of getting from social media?

How many other posts that you cut and pasted here without attribution came from social media?

 

[CowboyJD]

#news Fast Fact: Obama, Bill Clinton & Joe Biden ordered airstrikes - without explicit congressional approval - k*lling civilians, including Americans
#DC
As Democrat politicians and paid protester fume over President Trump's strikes in Iran - saying they were illegal and he needed constitutional authority, it may be a good time to take a look back at drone strikes that k*lled civilians and were ordered by Obama, Clinton and Biden.

️Obama:

Obama's aggressive expansion of U.S. airstrikes and drone campaigns from 2009 to 2017 resulted in an estimated 20,000 to 40,000 total deaths from airstrikes – a including ~3,000–6,000 civilians and 4,000 from Drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia

During Obama’s presidency the United States conducted at least 27,313 airstrikes and drone strikes across seven countries

Afghanistan:
Obama escalated troop levels in 2009 in the country and ordered airstrikes, including drone strikes, without Congressional approval.
#Obama

Iraq:
Obama ordered airstrikes starting against ISIS, bypassing Congressional authorization.

Syria:
Airstrikes started in September 2014 against ISIS. Obama initially sought Congressional approval in 2013 for strikes against Assad but stopped asking for approval after he was denied and decided to strike without authorization.

Libya:
In March 2011, Obama authorized airstrikes leading to Gaddafi’s overthrow. No Congressional approval was sought, Obama later called this a mistake, acknowledging that he didn't have legal grounding to take action

Yemen:
Drone strikes started in 2009 against al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. These were not authorized by a Congressional vote, and the strikes resulted in the k*lling of civilians

Somalia:
Airstrikes and drone strikes against al-Shabaab started in 2009. Obama did not get congressional approval
#Somalia
Pakistan:
Drone strikes in Waziristan started days after Obama’s inauguration in 2009, escalating to 128 strikes in 2010. No Congressional authorization was given
#Pakistan
Philippines:
The U.S. conducted airstrikes and drone strikes against ISIS affiliates in 2017, No specific Congressional approval was sought or given.

Mali:
In 2013, Obama conducted a drone strike against al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM) target, following a French-led intervention. This did not have congressional approval.

Niger:
U.S. airstrikes started in 2016 against AQIM and ISIS affiliates with no Congressional authorization.

️Bill Clinton
Clinton's 1999 intervention in Yugoslavia bypassed congressional approval.

The 78-day bombing blitz, launched without a war declaration or War Powers Resolution compliance, inflicted heavy civilian losses amid disputed intelligence.

The House rejected a war resolution, yet Clinton pressed on, citing executive prerogative – a move the ACLU slammed as unconstitutional.

During Clinton's eight-year tenure (1993–2001) more than 41,000 U.S.-participating airstrikes and cruise missile launches were conducted without new congressional authorization killing thousands of civilians.

️Joe Biden
Biden's 1,200 airstrikes and drone strikes without new congressional approvals claimed ~3,000–5,000 total lives, with g 200–400 civilians, a 5–10% rate from misidentified targets
#ChristinaAguayoNews

You falsely make claims while doing this. It's comical af.
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From this very thread.

Huh….weird that you didn’t mention these.

 

[Stillwater Townie]

Alex Jones, who isn't as thrilled with President Trump these days, interviews Max Blumenthal. Blumenthal accuses Trump of lying about the Kurdish invasion, taking big money from Israel and becoming subservient as a result, while betraying America First. Jones calls Pastor Hagee crazy and corrupt. Both imitate him.

https://www.infowars.com/posts/at-t...e-change-in-iran-no-matter-how-great-the-cost

 

[JTOSU]

Of all the posts we see on here from BlueSky, MediasTouch, Tennessee Holler etc., it is pretty bold calling out @Rob B for news sources and social media. Someone even posted last week that this forum was less of an echo chamber than where Rob normally goes for information.

 

[steross]

This is what I've been saying. All media lies to make which ever side they're promoting look good. But somehow it killed my "credibility" and I love FoxNews.
It the past, the news was the news, not politics. We should return to that. Be a lot less people outraged and triggeroo'd.

I hadn’t watch TV news hardly at all forever.

I’ve started watching NewsNation. Not perfect, but closer than the others. At least the biases that come through go both ways so the viewers don’t get spoonfed one side.

 

[steross]

This conversation is all pretty good but this part was interesting. I hope we haven’t just opened the Pandoras Box of assassinating world leaders.

 

[Polds4OSU]

Of all the posts we see on here from BlueSky, MediasTouch, Tennessee Holler etc., it is pretty bold calling out @Rob B for news sources and social media. Someone even posted last week that this forum was less of an echo chamber than where Rob normally goes for information.

Tennessee Holler is a person and former candidate for office running as a Dem Progressive