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was this before or after the ideological switch of political parties? for the record, the vast majority of Americans were opposed to our involvement in WWII...
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Good one, Norm.
I think the toppling of this Iranian regime has been in the plans for several administrations. This is a continuation of the protection of a western led global order established after WWII. So was Korea, Vietnam, Central America, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Venezuela, etc.
In the past, these were sold as "stopping the spread of communism" or the "war on terror." The truth is harder to sell to the American people that we are in fact the law enforcement arm of a rules based international order. The list of countries that don't fall in line include those I just listed all the way up to Russia and China. Who we will have conflict with in the future. I'm also sure that these military operations are a flex to both.
Rising and falling superpowers have been jostling for position for the past 80 years. This is all part of it.
Western-style liberal democracy is highly preferable, I just wish of course that they didn't use war so often to protect it. I don't know. This is just me typing as I think.
In the past, these were sold as "stopping the spread of communism" or the "war on terror." The truth is harder to sell to the American people that we are in fact the law enforcement arm of a rules based international order. The list of countries that don't fall in line include those I just listed all the way up to Russia and China. Who we will have conflict with in the future. I'm also sure that these military operations are a flex to both.
Rising and falling superpowers have been jostling for position for the past 80 years. This is all part of it.
Western-style liberal democracy is highly preferable, I just wish of course that they didn't use war so often to protect it. I don't know. This is just me typing as I think.
I’d support a regime change war
In Israel
In Israel
North Korea executed two Mossad agents last week for less F-ery than this.
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So, the war is between America's God and Iran's God, Allah. Religion is a plague upon humanityThis story has been growing and growing and seems to be based in at least some sort of reality, and is slowly being validated across multiple sources
U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus
Advocacy group reports commanders giving similar messages at more than 30 installations in every branch of the military
U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus
Advocacy group reports commanders giving similar messages at more than 30 installations in every branch of the militaryjonathanlarsen.substack.com
Ok then. Let's just take the regional conflict global.
Such a power hungry stud muffin our ruler has become
The sad thing about him trawling the MAGAsphere for support is that he adopts arguments that aren't even historically accurate....in fact WILDLY INCORRECT.
The picture of people protesting war with Hitler almost certainly shows members of the America First Committee.
America First....ring a bell for modern times?
Anyways.....the most prominent members of the America First Committee were:
Charles Lindbergh......REPUBLICAN.
General Robert E. Wood.....REPUBLICAN.
Henry Ford....ran for Senate as a REPUBLICAN in 1918, lost the primary and ran in the General Election as a Democrat. Won the 1916 Presidential primary in Michigan as a REPUBLICAN. Also threw his support behind Calvin Coolidge....a REPUBLICAN.
And there is the simple fact that it was a Democrat President that declared war on Hitler and advocated for the Lend Lease agreement with Britain and wanted to be in the war with Britain well before we actually declared war on Japan and Germany.
He's not even making his own arguments. He's just cutting and pasting his compatriots from the MAGAsphere.
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This story has been growing and growing and seems to be based in at least some sort of reality, and is slowly being validated across multiple sources
U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus
Advocacy group reports commanders giving similar messages at more than 30 installations in every branch of the military
U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus
Advocacy group reports commanders giving similar messages at more than 30 installations in every branch of the military
As a non-religious person, of course I don't like this rationale for why right now is a good time to start what is turning out to be at a minimum a regional war with the potential to spread.
But, when looking at the other options:
1. Epstein distraction by the prez
2. Epstein requirement (Israel blackmail on the prez)
3. They rapidly rebuilt their "obliterated"nuclear program
4. The world's best negotiator could not negotiate with them
5. Putin 3 Trump 1 in the dictator takeover game.
6. 47 years of funding terrorism is ok, but we just can't get to 48.
Honestly, hoping to cajole Jesus into a friendly visit isn't really even bottom of the list.
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GOP Congressman Thomas Massie just claimed that Israel has taken full control of the U.S. government and is using the Epstein Files as leverage to protect billionaires. If true, this is the biggest political scandal in American history.
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Congressman Thomas Massie just claimed that Israel has taken full control of the U.S. government and is using the Epstein Files as leverage to protect billionaires. If true, this is the biggest political scandal in American history.
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PF5
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if this wasn´t so serious, it would be quite comical...
Trump says ‘worst case scenario’ in Iran is new leader worse than Khamenei the hill
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“I guess the worst case would be we do this and then somebody takes over who’s as bad as the previous person, right? That could happen, we don’t want that to happen, it would probably be the worst,” Trump told reporters.
“You go through this and then in five years you realize you’ve put someone in who is no better. So, we’d like to see somebody in there who’s going to bring it back for the people,” the president added.
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Trump on Tuesday said he’d had a few people in mind to take over the country but noted all of them were dead.
“We had some in mind from that group that is dead. And now we have another group. They may be dead also based on reports,” the president told reporters.
“So, I guess you have a third wave coming in. Pretty soon, we’re not going to know anybody,” he added.
Exiled Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi’s name has emerged as a potential contender to take the helm of leadership in Iran but Trump largely ruled out the idea.
“Some people like him, and we haven’t been thinking too much about that. It would seem to me that somebody from within, maybe would be more appropriate,” Trump said when asked about Pahlavi, who lives in the U.S.
Trump says ‘worst case scenario’ in Iran is new leader worse than Khamenei the hill
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“I guess the worst case would be we do this and then somebody takes over who’s as bad as the previous person, right? That could happen, we don’t want that to happen, it would probably be the worst,” Trump told reporters.
“You go through this and then in five years you realize you’ve put someone in who is no better. So, we’d like to see somebody in there who’s going to bring it back for the people,” the president added.
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Trump on Tuesday said he’d had a few people in mind to take over the country but noted all of them were dead.
“We had some in mind from that group that is dead. And now we have another group. They may be dead also based on reports,” the president told reporters.
“So, I guess you have a third wave coming in. Pretty soon, we’re not going to know anybody,” he added.
Exiled Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi’s name has emerged as a potential contender to take the helm of leadership in Iran but Trump largely ruled out the idea.
“Some people like him, and we haven’t been thinking too much about that. It would seem to me that somebody from within, maybe would be more appropriate,” Trump said when asked about Pahlavi, who lives in the U.S.
When it comes to elected officials, I agree with you that AIPAC funding is pretty bipartisan with around 80% of elected officials on the take.
When it comes to the base, AIPAC is very unpopular amongst registered dems and a majority of independents.
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