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Thread has devolved but it won’t matter who is the D’s nominee.

It could be one of the Govs mentioned (not Waltz). It could be Kelly. It could be any centrist straight 50 yo white male w military creds.

Right wing media will find 1 negative and run nonstop. FoxNews & NewsMax will go on for 3 hours in the morning and 4 hours each night. Social media and podcasts will follow and become even more sensational (remember Haitians eating cats). Then NYT, Washington Post, CNN and ABC/CBS news will start reporting.

Tech Bros will spend massively as will corps that depend on R policy.

It will come down in 3-7 states to

1) Ds uniffyimg and getting out the vote
2) Indies being fed up w the daily fire hose of crap
3) MAGA Rs staying home bc Trump is not on ballot

Immigration like everything else all of these assclowns do is not solved and it’s not solved on purpose. Fact is we need immigrants. Look no further than Oklahoma State. Immigrants pay out of state tuition. Live on campus for the most part. Have great retention. Work the research hours that most won’t. Bring family w them and spend $$$ in Stillwater. Illegal immigrants/asylum seekers (non criminal) work jobs that most 18-30 year old white men and women will not work. Studies show that aside from the crime of illegal entry immigrants (legal and illegal) generate $ in the economy and commit crime at a lower rate than US citizens.

Reform immigration and do it long term so we don’t have what’s going on today. Don’t do a bill for 3 yrs (both sides do this) so you can campaign and raise money on it. Fix what’s broke then get out of the way.
 
Thread has devolved but it won’t matter who is the D’s nominee.

It could be one of the Govs mentioned (not Waltz). It could be Kelly. It could be any centrist straight 50 yo white male w military creds.

Right wing media will find 1 negative and run nonstop. FoxNews & NewsMax will go on for 3 hours in the morning and 4 hours each night. Social media and podcasts will follow and become even more sensational (remember Haitians eating cats). Then NYT, Washington Post, CNN and ABC/CBS news will start reporting.

Tech Bros will spend massively as will corps that depend on R policy.

It will come down in 3-7 states to

1) Ds uniffyimg and getting out the vote
2) Indies being fed up w the daily fire hose of crap
3) MAGA Rs staying home bc Trump is not on ballot

Immigration like everything else all of these assclowns do is not solved and it’s not solved on purpose. Fact is we need immigrants. Look no further than Oklahoma State. Immigrants pay out of state tuition. Live on campus for the most part. Have great retention. Work the research hours that most won’t. Bring family w them and spend $$$ in Stillwater. Illegal immigrants/asylum seekers (non criminal) work jobs that most 18-30 year old white men and women will not work. Studies show that aside from the crime of illegal entry immigrants (legal and illegal) generate $ in the economy and commit crime at a lower rate than US citizens.

Reform immigration and do it long term so we don’t have what’s going on today. Don’t do a bill for 3 yrs (both sides do this) so you can campaign and raise money on it. Fix what’s broke then get out of the way.
Hopefully, no Oklahoma Republican idiot thinks a way to get votes is to demand OSU be investigated for allowing an Iranian on its basketball team even though the big guy has been doing great. He arrived when Biden was president and didn't get his start at OSU.
 
Thread has devolved but it won’t matter who is the D’s nominee.

It could be one of the Govs mentioned (not Waltz). It could be Kelly. It could be any centrist straight 50 yo white male w military creds.

Right wing media will find 1 negative and run nonstop. FoxNews & NewsMax will go on for 3 hours in the morning and 4 hours each night. Social media and podcasts will follow and become even more sensational (remember Haitians eating cats). Then NYT, Washington Post, CNN and ABC/CBS news will start reporting.

Tech Bros will spend massively as will corps that depend on R policy.

It will come down in 3-7 states to

1) Ds uniffyimg and getting out the vote
2) Indies being fed up w the daily fire hose of crap
3) MAGA Rs staying home bc Trump is not on ballot

Immigration like everything else all of these assclowns do is not solved and it’s not solved on purpose. Fact is we need immigrants. Look no further than Oklahoma State. Immigrants pay out of state tuition. Live on campus for the most part. Have great retention. Work the research hours that most won’t. Bring family w them and spend $$$ in Stillwater. Illegal immigrants/asylum seekers (non criminal) work jobs that most 18-30 year old white men and women will not work. Studies show that aside from the crime of illegal entry immigrants (legal and illegal) generate $ in the economy and commit crime at a lower rate than US citizens.

Reform immigration and do it long term so we don’t have what’s going on today. Don’t do a bill for 3 yrs (both sides do this) so you can campaign and raise money on it. Fix what’s broke then get out of the way.
Who said Trump won’t be in the ballot??

We’re at war with ever so dangerous Venezuela!?!?!?
 
Authoritarian control

Rep. Roger Williams: "People need to quit demonstrating, quit yelling at law enforcement, challenging law enforcement, and begin to get civil."

 
The online response generated from this video clip from the agent’s camera shows that people will believe only what they want to believe.

The MAGAs are on twitter proclaiming it proves the ICE agent acted in self-defense.

The BlueSky crowd sees an innocent woman being killed.

Others see it showing a horrible situation that probably supports both versions and acknowledge both people share blame.

Although in no shape or form does this warrant shooting someone, I personally wonder and concerned about the mindset of:
* An ICE agent that would shoot to kill a person that does not appear to be a threat. She absolutely started towards him as he pulled his gun, but the right move would be to jump out of the way of the vehicle first. I don’t see any justification for continuing shooting once he was at the side of the car.

* Any person that would speed off when their spouse of loved one was trying to get in the car. That is incredibly dangerous and putting your loved one’s life at risk (especially if reports are true that she and her spouse purposefully went to where ICE agents were).
 
She looks like she was there strictly to disrupt and things weren't going the way she planned.
You didn't answer the question of course and we both know why. The only angry person was the ICE agent in the exchange.

Its wild that the Trump administration thought releasing this video would make Renee Good look bad in some capacity. I wouldn't be surprised if formal charges come from it, despite the withholding of evidence.
 
You didn't answer the question of course and we both know why. The only angry person was the ICE agent in the exchange.

Its wild that the Trump administration thought releasing this video would make Renee Good look bad in some capacity. I wouldn't be surprised if formal charges come from it, despite the withholding of evidence.
I don't know the lady and could have no inkling what her mad vs scared face looks like. Neither do you. I do know that her actions started the incident and she absolutely spun her tires on takeoff and struck the officer with her vehicle.
I also don't know what was going through his mind when she took off at him. Maybe he is a POS just looking to shoot someone.

Bottom line is she started the series of events that got her deceased and now the left will use it the same way the right will.
 
* An ICE agent that would shoot to kill a person that does not appear to be a threat. She absolutely started towards him as he pulled his gun, but the right move would be to jump out of the way of the vehicle first. I don’t see any justification for continuing shooting once he was at the side of the car.
The “right move” would have been to not approach her vehicle from the front in the first place.
 
Reading so many comments on social media by maga's about how she caused it, that she and the left need to respect law and order...it's so sad that so many have no compassion for people...we have always had hate in our world, but IMO it is getting worse, or at least more socially accepted (again)...
Everyone can put their own spin/opinion on the situation...what I see as the POS ICE dude killed her for no reason, others see as self defense...fun fact is that everything has to be political nowadays, and instead of looking at two individuals, and making a conclusion, all we see is Right vs. Left...
 
I think you're wrong, I think a lot are turning on him. Now let's pray the democrats can find someone better than Newsom, Harris, AOC, Walz...

That is a massive problem. Talarico if he doesn't fizzle out in 8–10 years, but there seems to be a huge dearth of leadership on the dem side.

Pete Buttigieg is really intelligent and might be the closest. But has some election flaws:
1. He is too wonky. Smart more than personable
2. He is gay. We are close, but not quite there
3. Stained with Biden. Too many Biden haters out there.
4. His name is absolutely impossible
 
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