Heritage Foundation Project 2025
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If that is Center-right, what is Far-right? I must be WAY Left if it's Center-right.
It’s far right the right in this country is so far right anything left of them they think is far left.
HacklemanPoke
Deputy
Project 2025 stayed up n relative obscurity. Now that a Trump victory is looking more likely the center and center left has finally started to publicize how incredibly extreme this is. Note how Trump this week said “I don’t know anything about Project 2025.” Then 2 sentences later said he doesn’t agree w everything in it.
Which is it. You don’t agree or you don’t know what it is?
So this Sunday they started the blitz to convince indies and suburbian moms that it’s really “center right..” it ain’t center or even just right of center.
And it’s chock full of stuff that is disproportionately damagimg to the people who will vote for Rs just bc they have an R. People like Rubio know this and that’s why he was trotted out to lie.
What about it is disproportionately damaging to straight party republican voters?
HacklemanPoke
Deputy
I didn’t express my thought there very well. What I was trying to say is that project2025 is extreme. It has policy goals that if people who vote R just bc someone has an R beside there name and is just an avg citizen like 99% of the US this will hurt vs those in a ruling or ruling adjacent (kind of like an oligarchy) class.
Examples would be restricting access to or eliminating birth control.
Eliminating the ACA.
Eliminating NOAA.
Eliminating IVF.
Extreme immigration policy overhauls (no not securing the border which needs to be addressed).
So someone like Rubio or someone in his circle can still access IVF or certain types of birth control via international. Everyday R voting Oklahoman not so much or won’t be able to afford.
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PF5
Ranger
it appears MANY people still have no clue this is a thing...
What do Americans Think About Project 2025? newsweek
New research on how Americans perceive Project 2025, an initiative developed by the conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation, has been published by a progressive group that opposes it.
Project 2025 essentially outlines an overhaul of the federal government. It was designed in the hopes of being implemented if Donald Trump wins reelection in November—though the former president has denied associations with it.
On July 5, Trump posted on Truth Social: "I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."
Multiple Democrats have pushed back on Trump's disavowal, with a spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee saying, "Many of Trump's closest former White House aides are leading the project."
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In its first of three releases, which was published on Monday, Navigator found that seven in 10 Americans did not know enough about the project to have an opinion on it, while four in five Americans said they had never heard about it.
The report said the general view of people who support Project 2025 is that it "represents the next conservative Republican president's last chance to save the republic, rescuing the country from the grip of the radical left through the right governing agenda and the right leadership."
People against the project generally say Project 2025 "is an extreme Republican plan that will give the president new and unchecked powers over federal agencies, eliminate abortion access, and roll back action on climate change, LGBTQ+ rights, and other areas," the report said.
Navigator said that "as people learn more about Project 2025, their opposition to it grows." It found that after "learning more about the policies in Project 2025 and reading negative messaging about the plan," independents' support decreased from 10 percent to 6 percent, and their opposition increased from 25 percent to 72 percent. It is important to note that this was a specific goal of Navigator.
The report said Democrats and independents who were against Project 2025 were worried it would "threaten American rights and freedoms," while "non-MAGA Republicans" who were against it were worried it would "hurt the middle class and working families."
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A spokesperson for Project 2025 previously told Newsweek: "As we've been saying for more than two years now, Project 2025 does not speak for any candidate or campaign.
"We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy and personnel recommendations for the next conservative president. But it is ultimately up to that president, who we believe will be President Trump, to decide which recommendations to implement."
What do Americans Think About Project 2025? newsweek
New research on how Americans perceive Project 2025, an initiative developed by the conservative think tank the Heritage Foundation, has been published by a progressive group that opposes it.
Project 2025 essentially outlines an overhaul of the federal government. It was designed in the hopes of being implemented if Donald Trump wins reelection in November—though the former president has denied associations with it.
On July 5, Trump posted on Truth Social: "I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."
Multiple Democrats have pushed back on Trump's disavowal, with a spokesperson for the Democratic National Committee saying, "Many of Trump's closest former White House aides are leading the project."
...
In its first of three releases, which was published on Monday, Navigator found that seven in 10 Americans did not know enough about the project to have an opinion on it, while four in five Americans said they had never heard about it.
The report said the general view of people who support Project 2025 is that it "represents the next conservative Republican president's last chance to save the republic, rescuing the country from the grip of the radical left through the right governing agenda and the right leadership."
People against the project generally say Project 2025 "is an extreme Republican plan that will give the president new and unchecked powers over federal agencies, eliminate abortion access, and roll back action on climate change, LGBTQ+ rights, and other areas," the report said.
Navigator said that "as people learn more about Project 2025, their opposition to it grows." It found that after "learning more about the policies in Project 2025 and reading negative messaging about the plan," independents' support decreased from 10 percent to 6 percent, and their opposition increased from 25 percent to 72 percent. It is important to note that this was a specific goal of Navigator.
The report said Democrats and independents who were against Project 2025 were worried it would "threaten American rights and freedoms," while "non-MAGA Republicans" who were against it were worried it would "hurt the middle class and working families."
...
A spokesperson for Project 2025 previously told Newsweek: "As we've been saying for more than two years now, Project 2025 does not speak for any candidate or campaign.
"We are a coalition of more than 110 conservative groups advocating policy and personnel recommendations for the next conservative president. But it is ultimately up to that president, who we believe will be President Trump, to decide which recommendations to implement."
PF5
Ranger
ha...maybe that's why we can't count on polls anymore...
HacklemanPoke
Deputy
Project2025 aims to eliminate all Title 1 money. Go look at how many schools in OK get Title 1 money. Also go look at state by state % of students in title 1 schools. No surprise it’s just what you’d expect. Start in OK and move east along I40 and everything south of it. Those states wouldn’t even think about voting for a D. They are the poorest states in the US.
This will decimate public education. 50 kids in a first grade class all trying to read from 15 books all 20 yrs old.
It’s crap like this. Subjecting all ready marginalized communities to a life of poverty.
They also plan to make every high school sr take the military acceptance exam. But guess which kids are exempt? Yep. Private school kids.
HacklemanPoke
Deputy
Extreme Rs have been playing the fear game for 30 yrs. DNC need to buy an hour on 3 major networks for a town hall. Fill it w Barack, Adam Kinzinger (R I know), Hakeem and Moskowitz. They need to blast Project 2025 and spell out exactly what’s in it, who wrote it, who paid for it and what it means to every American. Then for the next 4 weeks flood social media FoxNews and CNN/MSNBC with commercials. Tie it all to Trump. Make him own it. Press it all the way to Election Day.
Stillwater Townie
Deputy
Trump was good for recently giving it publicity, while wording it in such a way that made a lot of people wonder more about his soundness of mind.
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'He doesn't understand': Alex Jones rages and turns on Trump for getting cold feet on Project 2025
Conspiracy theorist webcaster Alex Jones is not happy with former President Donald Trump's about-face on Project 2025.Jones took Trump to task this week for his attempt to distance himself from the infamous Heritage Foundation-backed policy agenda, which has triggered alarm among political scientists and is being used as a wedge issue by President Joe Biden's campaign to alarm moderate voters who may be considering a vote for the former president.
"Trump gets told by his advisers and people who really just don't want competition in his new White House … 'Oh God, these are radicals, sir. You've got to come out and distance yourself,'" Jones told his listeners. "It's the Heritage Foundation, Trump. And again, Trump's really smart; he's got good instincts. He doesn't understand Republican machinery."
Project 2025 calls for the top-to-bottom restructuring of the entire federal government, with most of the civil service being dismissed and replaced with party loyalists who stand ready to implement far-right policy, from codifying Christian nationalism to harshly scaling back immigration, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, military families' benefits, public transportation, and a wide variety of other programs and investments.
Amid the public attention on the program, Trump took to his Truth Social platform last week and proclaimed that, "I know nothing about Project 2025. I have no idea who is behind it. I disagree with some of the things they're saying and some of the things they're saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them."
This was followed up by Heritage Foundation officials also asserting that their proposals are not affiliated with the Trump campaign.
Despite these disavowals, many of the people who have helped to craft Project 2025, like John McEntee, previously served in the Trump administration, and Trump tried to implement at least some of the policies outlined in the project on his way out of office, like reclassifying federal employees to strip them of labor protections.
Jones, whose InfoWars radio program and associated dietary supplement empire has long been a staple of the far-right conspiracy theory ecosystem, entered bankruptcy after being found liable in a series of lawsuits by the families of Sandy Hook school shooting victims after he used his platform to proclaim them hoaxers and turned their lives upside down with harassment. A bankruptcy court last month approved the orderly winding down of InfoWars' parent company and the liquidation of Jones' personal assets.
Republicans call Trump’s move to distance himself from Project 2025 ‘preposterous’
Donald Trump’s “preposterous” efforts to disavow Project 2025, a rightwing blueprint for a takeover of the US government if the former president is re-elected in November, have been derided by former Republican figures.
The Project 2025 plan includes calls for replacing civil servants with Trump loyalists, eliminating the education department, putting the justice department under the president’s thumb and banning the abortion pill.
Democrats have made concerted efforts to say the 900-plus page document from the conservative Heritage Foundation thinktank would be representative of a second Trump presidency.
But although it was written by former members of Trump’s first administration, and he regularly echoes its policies in his speeches, last week Trump tried to disown the initiative.
Posting on his Truth Social website, the presumptive Republican nominee claimed to “know nothing about Project 2025” and have “no idea who is behind it”.
He added: “I disagree with some of the things they’re saying and some of the things they’re saying are absolutely ridiculous and abysmal. Anything they do, I wish them luck, but I have nothing to do with them.”
Olivia Troye, a former White House adviser to Mike Pence who sat in on policy sessions during Trump’s first presidency, said Trump’s attempt to distance himself from Project 2025 was driven by a recognition that its deeply controversial policy prescriptions could sink his election bid.
“This is preposterous if you look at the collaborators and the authors of this plan,” she told CNN when asked whether Trump’s denial was credible. “A lot of these people…served in Trump’s cabinet during his administration. There are people that I worked with. I sat in those policy meetings with them.”
Troye identified various figures – including John McEntee, who was Trump’s director of White House personnel, Stephen Miller, a senior adviser in his first administration, Ben Carson, the housing and urban development secretary in his cabinet, and Ken Cuccinelli, a former deputy secretary of homeland security – as among the project’s leading architects.
Carson has been “out there on the campaign trail” with Trump, she noted.
“I think what this is telling us is that Donald Trump knows that what is written in this plan is so extreme that it is damaging to his possibility of getting elected, and that’s what he’s concerned about.”
“Exactly how do you ‘disagree’ with something you ‘know nothing about’ or ‘have no idea’ who is behind, saying or doing the thing you disagree with?” said former RNC Chairman and current MSNBC host Michael Steele in echoing Troye’s derision.
“And how exactly don’t you know that Project 2025 director Paul Dans served as your chief of staff at the Office of Personnel Management, and associate director Spencer Chretien served as your special assistant and associate director of presidential personnel?”
Among the plan’s more drastic proposals are to fire thousands of permanent civil servants and replace them with hired conservative Trump loyalists, dismantling the federal education department, asserting presidential power over the Department of Justice – which is nominally independent – and a ban on the abortion pill.
The Democrats, currently in the throes of a fierce internal debate over whether to retain Joe Biden as their presidential candidate, have settled on trying to make Project 2025 a household phrase in a drive to illustrate what a second Trump presidency would mean.
Troye said the project should be seen as a threat not just to Democrats but to moderate conservatives, too.
“If you go through and really read through this plan, this is complete overreach by the federal government on our individual liberties,” she said.
“[It talks] about law enforcement and how they’re going to use federal law enforcement in local states and local cities … with no oversight. Because there’s no oversight when they do that. They’ve learned all the lessons during the first Trump term, and that is what is frightening here. I think we need to be paying attention to this, and no amount of distancing by Donald Trump should be believed …I sat in [on] policy-making meetings with these people.”
Trump surrogates have tried to back up his effort to separate himself from the project, with Marco Rubio, a Republican senator from Florida who has been touted as a possible running mate for Trump, claiming in a Sunday interview with CNN that there was no connection between Project 2025 and Trump.
“Thinktanks do thinktank stuff. They come up with ideas, they say things,” he said. “But our party’s candidate for president is Donald Trump.”
He also dismissed the importance of comments by the Heritage Foundation’s president, Kevin Roberts, who said in an interview with Steve Bannon’s War Room podcast last week that conservative-driven “second American revolution” will be bloodless “if the left allows it to be”, viewed by many Democrats as an implied threat of political violence.
“He’s not running for president,” Rubio said. “Our candidate’s Donald Trump. I didn’t see Donald Trump say that.”
The denials appear to be undermined by close studies of the personnel involved in the document’s formulation.
Of the 38 people involved in the writing and editing of Project 2025, 31 of them were nominated to positions in Trump’s administration or transition team – meaning 81% of the document’s creators held formal roles in Trump’s presidency.
Stillwater Townie
Deputy
Viral Claims About Project 2025 Are Mostly False. But I doubt it means that originators of Project 2025 would not be opposed to things they didn't really include such as banning no fault divorce and cutting Social Security.
thedispatch.com
Viral Claims About Project 2025 Are Mostly False
The recommendations aimed at shaping policy in a GOP administration do not include banning abortion or contraceptives.
thedispatch.com
We've lost our everloving minds
Heritage Foundation Exec Threatens ‘Gay Furry Hackers’ in Unhinged Texts
A newly released log of messages shows a director at the think tank spewing insults after a data breach
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Heritage Foundation Exec Threatens ‘Gay Furry Hackers’ in Unhinged Texts
A newly released log of messages shows a director at the think tank spewing insults after a data breach
Heritage Foundation Exec Threatens 'Gay Furry Hackers' in Unhinged Texts
Mike Howell of Heritage Foundation went at gay furry hacking collective SiegedSec after data breach motivated by Project 2025.
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