Harris 2024 election thread

steross said:
No. I am voting for a person that I disagree with some issues but does not preach hate for other people and hide behind a perversion of Christianity that they want to force on all of us while actually having no moral character at all. Just listen to his words. It is always divisive. He is always trying to create enemies of other Americans.

And, I am not a concrete thinker. No, adultery is not adultery. If that is the case, being a racist is being a racist. So, the things you say are just like the KKK. See, in the past I have defended you and said that jokes etc while rude, are not quite the same. But, hey, if you want to play that game, go ahead there, sheety.
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What an absolutely ridiculous analogy. Good grief. Go cheat on your wife and then just tell her it’s ok because your definition of adultery is different than hers. It’s pretty concrete. Let me know how that works out for ya. If you want to vote for Harris because of policy or her accomplishments or her proposals that’s great. We can debate that. Just don’t tell me you’re voting for her because of her high character or that she somehow has the moral high ground on Trump or anybody else for that matter. She’s a slimy politician that would gut you like a fish just like Trump would for one extra vote. Trump has the morals of an ally cat and I’ve said that from day one. She’s not one bit better.
 
GOGETUMPOKE said:
What an absolutely ridiculous analogy. Good grief. Go cheat on your wife and then just tell her it’s ok because your definition of adultery is different than hers. It’s pretty concrete. Let me know how that works out for ya. If you want to vote for Harris because of policy or her accomplishments or her proposals that’s great. We can debate that. Just don’t tell me you’re voting for her because of her high character or that she somehow has the moral high ground on Trump or anybody else for that matter. She’s a slimy politician that would gut you like a fish just like Trump would for one extra vote. Trump has the morals of an ally cat and I’ve said that from day one. She’s not one bit better.
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Kamala Harris didn't have a wife. She dated a man that had not been with his wife in over a decade. We don't even know if she knew he was still technically married. You want to bad mouth Willie Brown and his wife for staying married while not together, go ahead and have tha opinion. But, you are letting your absurd political bias try to turn a married man who was actively cheating on his wife with playboy bunnies and porn stars into the same thing as a single woman dating a man who had been separated for more than a decade. It isn't even close to the same legally or morally.

If this is the only example of her poor character you have, it says more about your character than hers.
 
GOGETUMPOKE said:
What an absolutely ridiculous analogy. Good grief. Go cheat on your wife and then just tell her it’s ok because your definition of adultery is different than hers. It’s pretty concrete. Let me know how that works out for ya. If you want to vote for Harris because of policy or her accomplishments or her proposals that’s great. We can debate that. Just don’t tell me you’re voting for her because of her high character or that she somehow has the moral high ground on Trump or anybody else for that matter. She’s a slimy politician that would gut you like a fish just like Trump would for one extra vote. Trump has the morals of an ally cat and I’ve said that from day one. She’s not one bit better.
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Trump was probably cheating on his wife with Laura Loomer like 2 weeks ago and you want to say they are in the same ballpark morally?

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steross said:
Kamala Harris didn't have a wife. She dated a man that had not been with his wife in over a decade. We don't even know if she knew he was still technically married. You want to bad mouth Willie Brown and his wife for staying married while not together, go ahead and have tha opinion. But, you are letting your absurd political bias try to turn a married man who was actively cheating on his wife with playboy bunnies and porn stars into the same thing as a single woman dating a man who had been separated for more than a decade. It isn't even close to the same legally or morally.

If this is the only example of her poor character you have, it says more about your character than hers.
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You’re kidding right? Tell me you’re kidding.
 
GOGETUMPOKE said:
You’re kidding right? Tell me you’re kidding.
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What part of the fact that he had not been with his wife and had dated other women for more than a decade are you not getting? To say that situation is even close to sleeping with playboy bunnies and porn stars with a pregnant wife at home is just silly. But, to support Trump, concern about character has to simply go out the window, as you are proving. Besides, "character" isn't about who had infidelities in the 1990s. More importantly, is how he treats people now. I do not want someone that is that ugly to Americans as the leader of Americans. You do.
 
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steross said:
What part of the fact that he had not been with his wife and had dated other women for more than a decade are you not getting? To say that situation is even close to sleeping with playboy bunnies and porn start with a pregnant wife at home is just silly. But, to support Trump, concern about character has to simply go out the window, as you are proving. Besides, "character" isn't about who had infidelities in the 1990s. More importantly, is how he treats people now. I do not want someone that is that ugly to Americans as the leader of Americans. You do.
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Silly is to imply that Harris didn’t know Willie Brown was married. Even more silly is to assert that it is somehow not a character flaw to sleep with a married man because she was not herself married at the time. No I don’t want someone who is ugly to Americans as President. I don’t want Trump as President I just don’t want Harris as President more. The difference is I’m not trying to convince myself and you that Trump is the second coming of Mother Teresa because I don’t like Harris. If you will only cast your vote for someone of high moral standing then you’re gonna need to sit this one out. We can argue about who’s the biggest turd forever if you want. Just don’t try to tell me Kamala isn’t in fact a turd. We both know she is.
 
steross said:
What part of the fact that he had not been with his wife and had dated other women for more than a decade are you not getting? To say that situation is even close to sleeping with playboy bunnies and porn stars with a pregnant wife at home is just silly. But, to support Trump, concern about character has to simply go out the window, as you are proving. Besides, "character" isn't about who had infidelities in the 1990s. More importantly, is how he treats people now. I do not want someone that is that ugly to Americans as the leader of Americans. You do.
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He doesn't care about facts. He only cares about alternative facts, aka whatever BS makes Trump look better. I have fallen for this too many times and after having a similar argument at work this week. I'm beyond over MAGA cultists. They believe nothing but whatever crap their cult leaders tell them to believe and treat very different things as equal if it helps their case.
 
GOGETUMPOKE said:
Silly is to imply that Harris didn’t know Willie Brown was married. Even more silly is to assert that it is somehow not a character flaw to sleep with a married man because she was not herself married at the time. No I don’t want someone who is ugly to Americans as President. I don’t want Trump as President I just don’t want Harris as President more. The difference is I’m not trying to convince myself and you that Trump is the second coming of Mother Teresa because I don’t like Harris. If you will only cast your vote for someone of high moral standing then you’re gonna need to sit this one out. We can argue about who’s the biggest turd forever if you want. Just don’t try to tell me Kamala isn’t in fact a turd. We both know she is.
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Huh? This ALL started because I asked you a straight forward question about TRUMP. You still have not answered it. I can repeat it for a third time if you like. You whataboutism-ed it into woman-bashing about infidelity. I'm only stating the facts of the differences between what Trump did and what Harris did. If you want to see that as the same thing, I can't stop you. But, most would not see it as the same. Sort of like saying going 57 in a 55 is the same as going 80 through a school zone because both are speeding. Of course, she is flawed like everyone, but to try to say that flaw from 30 years ago makes her the same as the Trump spouting evil things today is simply ludicrous in my opinion.

But, forget the Kamala that you brought up as we will never agree about that and answer the question that I asked.
 
steross said:
Huh? This ALL started because I asked you a straight forward question about TRUMP. You still have not answered it. I can repeat it for a third time if you like. You whataboutism-ed it into woman-bashing about infidelity. I'm only stating the facts of the differences between what Trump did and what Harris did. If you want to see that as the same thing, I can't stop you. But, most would not see it as the same. Sort of like saying going 57 in a 55 is the same as going 80 through a school zone because both are speeding. Of course, she is flawed like everyone, but to try to say that flaw from 30 years ago makes her the same as the Trump spouting evil things today is simply ludicrous in my opinion.

But, forget the Kamala that you brought up as we will never agree about that and answer the question that I asked.
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False equivalencies are a hallmark of his rhetoric.
 
Former conservative GOP Sen. Jeff Flake - from the swing state of Arizona - endorses Harris/Walz:

Former GOP Sen. Jeff Flake on why he's endorsing Kamala Harris: "Republicans believe in the rule of law in particular, and it's difficult to support a candidate who, having lost an election, tries to use the powers of the presidency to overturn that election."

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Former GOP Sen. Jeff Flake on why he's endorsing Kamala Harris: "Republicans believe in the rule of law in particular, and it's difficult to support a candidate who, having lost an election, tries to use the powers of the presidency to overturn that election."
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***BIG*** Former conservative GOP Sen. Jeff Flake - from the swing state of Arizona - endorses Harris/Walz:
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On KFOR's Flashpoint, former 8 term Republican Oklahoma Congressman Mickey Edwards now independent endorses Harris. He has nothing but disdain for Trump and calls Harris a pragmatist not a liberal. It was interesting hearing what he has been doing since no longer living in Oklahoma for quite some time.
 
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TheMonkey said:
Agreed. And he knows exactly what he is doing. He does not engage earnestly, so I avoid responding to him. His goal isn’t enlightened discussion. It is to send others into a tizzy.
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As the pig happily wallows in its own filth, so too does he in his ignorance.
 
TheMonkey said:
Agreed. And he knows exactly what he is doing. He does not engage earnestly, so I avoid responding to him. His goal isn’t enlightened discussion. It is to send others into a tizzy.
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MAGA are digging their heels in HARD right now because they are slowly beginning to realize what we have all known for the last 8 or so years - their messiah is a fraud. They have crafted their entire personality around hate, so when your god of hate turns out to be a buffoon, the only option left is to lash out.
 
milehighpoke said:
MAGA are digging their heels in HARD right now because they are slowly beginning to realize what we have all known for the last 8 or so years - their messiah is a fraud. They have crafted their entire personality around hate, so when your god of hate turns out to be a buffoon, the only option left is to lash out.
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I wonder if Trump's $100,000 gold victory watch he is selling is only worth around $100.
 
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