Checks thread title: yep funny memes.This is completely disengenuous. Post the full video of these gestures.
Ill start with Musk:
I'm just here for the funny memes. Take your "you guys" back to the serious TDS threads please. Christ, and you probably like to throw that "conspiracy theory" b.s. at people too...So you guys were completely fine with these "nazi salutes" all this time? If you really thought that's what they were doing, YEARS ago, you probably would have rasied a stink then. So you either don't care about the salute, or it's a completely false narrative. Which is it?
"You guys" give off far too much penis envy about him for me to ever be jealous.I think he is a little jealous of musk for not being able to do it too.
Ahh has your wife told you it’s a good size?"You guys" give off far too much penis envy about him for me to ever be jealous.![]()
Weak, even for you.Ahh has your wife told you it’s a good size?
You’re the one that brought up penis envy.Weak, even for you.
And you're the one who brought up jealousy...You’re the one that brought up penis envy.
My only issue with that is, because he's so intertwined with the white house, we need to care about some of the stupid things he does. He has a lot of influence on certain people and there needs to be a public check on him depending on how he uses that influence.Here is my opinion.
He isn't a Nazi. He did do a Nazi-ish salute on purpose. He has avoided apologizing and continues to joke about it on purpose.
As long as everyone keeps bickering about this silly salute, we aren't noticing that he has bought a country. Apple was the first American trillion-dollar company in 2018. Elon is almost halfway there to be the first trillion dollar man. Given that he essentially has the resources of the US government now, he will probably make it in the next few years.
THIS is what we should be talking about. Should the wealthiest man in the world be able to buy the office of the president and increase his net worth 40 something % in a couple of months? Why are we worried about his hand gesture instead of this? They destroyed the income equating power of labor unions. Next stop is obviously going straight to government to insure they continue to get more. Why are we not worried about the other mega-billionaires lining up to buy incredible access to the government, too?
I drive a Tesla. I use Amazon. I'm not "anti-billionaire" in the sense that these men have played a part in creating good things and should be rewarded. But, I have also read books on the psychology of billionaires. "Satisfied" with $X dollars is not part of that. They will want it all. It is up to us to sustain a system that rewards, but doesn't bend over and give all. Right now, it appears to me they have the access to start bending us over.
Meanwhile, we are debating what constitutes a Nazi salute and what is just a regular gesture.
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It’s the videos that clearly and obviously show that the gestures they do are clearly not the same as Musk’s.I have no clue what video of AOC and Walz that you keep talking about. Screenshots are misleading. Prove they were doing the same or stop making the claim.
Here is my opinion.
He isn't a Nazi. He did do a Nazi-ish salute on purpose. He has avoided apologizing and continues to joke about it on purpose.
As long as everyone keeps bickering about this silly salute, we aren't noticing that he has bought a country. Apple was the first American trillion-dollar company in 2018. Elon is almost halfway there to be the first trillion dollar man. Given that he essentially has the resources of the US government now, he will probably make it in the next few years.
THIS is what we should be talking about. Should the wealthiest man in the world be able to buy the office of the president and increase his net worth 40 something % in a couple of months? Why are we worried about his hand gesture instead of this? They destroyed the income equating power of labor unions. Next stop is obviously going straight to government to insure they continue to get more. Why are we not worried about the other mega-billionaires lining up to buy incredible access to the government, too?
I drive a Tesla. I use Amazon. I'm not "anti-billionaire" in the sense that these men have played a part in creating good things and should be rewarded. But, I have also read books on the psychology of billionaires. "Satisfied" with $X dollars is not part of that. They will want it all. It is up to us to sustain a system that rewards, but doesn't bend over and give all. Right now, it appears to me they have the access to start bending us over.
Meanwhile, we are debating what constitutes a Nazi salute and what is just a regular gesture.
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My only issue with that is, because he's so intertwined with the white house, we need to care about some of the stupid things he does. He has a lot of influence on certain people and there needs to be a public check on him depending on how he uses that influence.
This outcry wouldn't be happening if he hadn't just bought the presidency. I wouldn't care much if someone random was doing this stuff. It'd be annoying but nothing more. I care BECAUSE he's 2nd POTUS (and I'm already unhappy about a ultra wealthy person being an unelected 2nd POTUS) and I DO NOT want nazi anything associated with our government.
Maybe he's doing this to distract from some of Trump's EOs. But I don't think we can just gloss over acts essentially from the white house that encourage or normalize Nazi symbols or thoughts. To me that's how people end up accepting worse and worse acts. We've seen it for years now, keep pushing bounds until something that would be unthought of is now acceptable and expected.
Everything he's doing is with the end goal of either entertaining himself by playing with a country like a toy, and/or making WAY more money.
You can refuse to normalize and accept this type of behavior AND still work against all that as well.They keep people fussing about stuff like this while we go another few trillion in debt, schools continue to decline, forever war gets fueled, they inside trade themselves to 8 digit net worths on low six figure salaries……
You can refuse to normalize and accept this type of behavior AND still work against all that as well.
After all, they both have the same origin.
You realize that, right?
For me, it’s both of these together.
The f#$&er that just bought the Presidency thinks it’s cool to get away with this crap and is now trying to put the closest thing to the Nazi party since WWII back in power in Germany.
The oligarchs are in power now, and that’s never a good thing. It’s not even concealed now. It’s openly celebrated and defended.
I think he’s a racist POS. I don’t think the Nazi party is a thing but there are a lot of other parties that are basically the same and MAGA is basically the same.We will just have to disagree. I am much more worried about the fact that we just had a change from the wealthy funding politicians from the background to billionaires buying direct and unencumbered access to our government. Sure, Nazism is a horrible thing. But, we are much closer to oligarchy than a Nazi takeover. Do you think he is an actual Nazi?