Deadlam

[Cowboyshoopspride]

If this is what you think is being stated by anyone in this thread, then you need reading lessons

 

[Backin82]

Jesus, non of that is relevant to my post.

My focus has been on Bedlam in this thread (thread title = "Bedlam"), and assumed most of the posts in this thread would be similarly related. I didn't see Toker's sentiments on the overall impact to conference, nor do I really care. I see now that he mentioned it once, and people took exception. I was just pointing out that the concern over conference relevance has been a very real concern for many of our fans, so its not outlandish to consider the impacts of it.

Clearly a uo fan would predictably view our prospects as dim going forward. Who cares?

 

[jobob85]

My focus has been on Bedlam in this thread (thread title = "Bedlam"), and assumed most of the posts in this thread would be similarly related. I didn't see Toker's sentiments on the overall impact to conference, nor do I really care. I see now that he mentioned it once, and people took exception. I was just pointing out that the concern over conference relevance has been a very real concern for many of our fans, so its not outlandish to consider the impacts of it.

The thing is you made a sarcastic remark to someone about needing reading lessons. I had been following up till then and thought it was a poor look especially when they were right. I pointed it out, should have been end of story.

 

[Backin82]

The thing is you made a sarcastic remark to someone about needing reading lessons. I had been following up till then and thought it was a poor look especially when they were right. I pointed it out, should have been end of story.

You're correct - it was a poor look. I assumed we were talking about Bedlam based on the thread title, and also didn't read all of Toker's posts, because (a) I was busy working and (b) didn't really care to dissect each prior post. It was a poor move to assume beyond what I read.

Edit: Going back to see what happened... It appears we were discussing Bedlam and its impacts for a while on p12 of this thread, then at some brief point on p15, Toker added a blurb about overall impacts to the conference, but then went back to inquiring about Bedlam. I still perceive this thread, and most of Toker's original discussions, to be related to that topic. Its unfortunate that he randomly swerved to the other topic, because I still don't think that's the main point of this thread, my posts, or even his own posts.

To clarify - I don't think our conference will be irrelevant once uo and Texas leave. I think Bedlam football going away is a net negative for the sport, the state, and both teams.

 

[CowboyJD]

The thing is you made a sarcastic remark to someone about needing reading lessons. I had been following up till then and thought it was a poor look especially when they were right. I pointed it out, should have been end of story.

He claimed "literally no one in this thread is saying....."

Without actually reading every post in the thread

You point out that someone in this thread actually literally is saying it. You even quote it.

And he still tries to defend his statement.

Classic move.

 

[Backin82]

He claimed "literally no one in this thread is saying....."

Without actually reading every post in the thread

You point out that someone in this thread actually literally is saying it. You even quote it.

And he still tries to defend his statement.

Classic move.

You still got nothing. You're a machine. Classic JD

 

[orngblkzebra]

My focus has been on Bedlam in this thread (thread title = "Bedlam"), and assumed most of the posts in this thread would be similarly related. I didn't see Toker's sentiments on the overall impact to conference, nor do I really care. I see now that he mentioned it once, and people took exception. I was just pointing out that the concern over conference relevance has been a very real concern for many of our fans, so its not outlandish to consider the impacts of it.

Clearly a uo fan would predictably view our prospects as dim going forward. Who cares?

 

[CowboyJD]

You still got nothing. You're a machine. Classic JD

Sure thing MToker.

One thing I know for sure is that there is only one poster in this thread planting wet slobbery smooches on Sooner behinds….and it ain’t me.

 

[orngblkzebra]

Then there's this wide open gem...but rEfS

 

[OrangeFan69]

From The Hollywood watch party; I’m far right in the back

 

[orngblkzebra]

From The Hollywood watch party; I’m far right in the back

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with the Landry Jones creeper-stache!?

 

[Rob B.]

The fans dont play. players play. which OU players have been pricks?

Do you really want me to make you a list?

 

[CowboyJD]

Do you really want me to make you a list?

 

[Rob B.]

 

[Rob B.]

My focus has been on Bedlam in this thread (thread title = "Bedlam"), and assumed most of the posts in this thread would be similarly related. I didn't see Toker's sentiments on the overall impact to conference, nor do I really care. I see now that he mentioned it once, and people took exception. I was just pointing out that the concern over conference relevance has been a very real concern for many of our fans, so its not outlandish to consider the impacts of it.

Clearly a uo fan would predictably view our prospects as dim going forward. Who cares?

Your focus was what OSU would do without ou. Clearly you're trying to worm out of that now.
You and toker should exchange info. You could go over to the mobile mansion, get stoned, and spoon until the secsecsec night sweats kick in...

 

[Rob B.]

From Bill Haisten in the Tulsa World:

In the story of how Oklahoma State became such a lively tailgate school – after having had nearly nothing in the way of organized football pregame festivities – the real hero was Terry Don Phillips.As the OSU athletic director in 1995-2002, Phillips would grouse about lack of campus buzz before home football games. He drove the university to prioritize the development of something better, and today Oklahoma State – both in scope and spirit – has one of the more impressive tailgate cultures in college football.

When University of Oklahoma officials were in Stillwater last weekend, the sights and sounds of the Bedlam pregame might have been a wake-up call that OU needs to elevate its tailgate game as it transfers to the Southeastern Conference.As the weather was stunningly perfect (71 degrees at kickoff), more than 35,000 fans were engaged in various tailgate set-ups near Boone Pickens Stadium. Bedlam was a massive happening because OU and OSU were meeting for the final time as Big 12 rivals.Tailgating is important in the SEC. LSU’s tailgate is legendary. The Georgia and Alabama people do it right. Ole Miss has a famous tailgate area known as The Grove, and at Tennessee there is the Vol Navy – a massive fleet of boats docked on the Tennessee River and only a few steps from Neyland Stadium. “Sailgating,” it’s called.In June, OU President Joe Harroz addressed his school’s lack of an elite tailgate situation: “With us going to the SEC, it was important to . . . look at it pretty deeply. From the Tulsa World’s Eric Bailey in mid-August, there was this: (OU) announced new policies ahead of the 2023 season to allow fans to tailgate along the main entrance to OU’s football stadium. It could serve as only a small step into readiness for the 2024 inaugural season in the Southeastern Conference.From the Tulsa World’s Mason Young on Sept. 2, as the Sooners opened their season against Arkansas State: Christine Levi and her family were surprised to find they were the sole Oklahoma fans tailgating on the reopened stretch of Lindsey Street on Saturday morning.They’d driven from Watonga to Norman on Friday evening and positioned their tent frames outside the entrance to the Headington College dormitory around midnight, hoping to beat the crowds.When they returned Saturday morning with food, chairs, tables and a grill, they were still the only people setting up on the south side of Lindsey between Jenkins Avenue and Asp Avenue.“We got here, and we’re like, ‘Oh my gosh, there’s nobody here,’ ” Christine said.The Lindsey Street tailgate space was busier before subsequent OU home games, but the Sooner tailgate operation is far below OSU’s with regard to coordination and participants.

The Oklahoma State tailgate development was not an overnight success, however. It was gradual.During Phillips’ first few years in Stillwater, the university would do a head count on the Cowboy fans who were on campus for football pregame tailgating. That number typically would be about 3,000 and never more than 5,000.Phillips captained a campaign to create a real tailgate culture. Now retired after having been the Clemson athletic director in 2002-12, Phillips might be blown away by OSU’s current game-day production.Before the Bedlam game, when Cowboy players and coaches did their three-block pregame walk from the Student Union to Boone Pickens Stadium, an estimated 20,000 fans lined Hester Street.In the Big 12, the top three football tailgate schools would be OSU, Kansas State and Iowa State. Texas Tech and Baylor would be on the honorable mention list.While Phillips hoped for a rocking OSU campus on football game days, he probably never envisioned anything like the Bullet Bar & Grill – owned by a Tulsan (Ed Raschen) and the epicenter of Oklahoma State tailgating.Before the Bedlam kickoff, an estimated 1,200 fans were jammed around the Bullet Bar – a 24-foot trailer built by some of Raschen’s employees. Raschen owns C4 Industrial, Inc., which is, according to its website, “your machinery resource and industrial supply partner.”While at the 2014 OSU-TCU game in Fort Worth, Texas, Raschen noticed an interesting Horned Frog tailgate trailer near Amon G. Carter Stadium.“I took pictures of it and thought it was pretty cool,” Raschen recalled. “I came back and showed the pictures to some of my (employees), and a few days later they said, ‘We can build one of those.’ So, we built it and had it ready for the 2015 season.“We’ve taken it to the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans, to West Virginia, to Austin, to Iowa State and K-State. We’ve taken it to OU, of course. It’s just been a really great experience. Our tailgates are huge. I don’t think there’s a bigger private tailgate in the Big 12.”The Bullet Bar tailgate is not exactly an open-to-everyone situation, but it’s not exactly an invitation-only situation, either. If you’re connected to Raschen, you’re in. If you’re connected to someone who is connected to Raschen, you’re probably in.“We don’t provide (alcohol) because I don’t have a liquor license,” said Raschen, who attended Tulsa’s Edison High School and graduated from OSU in 1991. “We call it the Bullet Bar & Grill because it sounds neat and fun. For OSU people, we have taken it to a few funerals and birthday parties.”Six 55-inch televisions are mounted to the Bullet Bar trailer. Through a satellite signal, patrons watch football as they consume “great barbecue,” Raschen says, that is provided free of charge by “a group” of Raschen’s associates.Among well-known Bullet Bar visitors were former Cowboys like Viktor Hovland, Brandon Weeden, Talor Gooch, Mason Rudolph, Malcolm Rodriguez and Rickie Fowler. Oh, and a pair of Sooner royalty figures – Brian Bosworth and Adrian Peterson, who hung out at the Bullet Bar before the 2021 Bedlam game (a 37-33 Cowboy victory).The Bullet Bar’s entertainment amenities include a high-end sound system through which a deejay pumps country music. When Peterson was there, his son submitted a “Boomer Sooner” request to the deejay.Request denied.“I told the deejay that if he played ‘Boomer Sooner,’ I would break his iPad,” Raschen recalled. “Adrian was there for an hour-and-a-half, actually inside the trailer.”Raschen was an OSU student in 1988, when Barry Sanders won the Heisman Trophy. The football was great, Raschen remembers, but the pregame environment was tepid. He marvels at what OSU’s tailgate community has become.“The university is so accommodating,” Raschen said. “They’ve worked with me big-time on (the location) of our set-up. I’ve been to The Grove at Ole Miss. It’s cool, but I think OSU’s tailgate is better and way friendlier.”With regard to having a good time and celebrating their school, Oklahoma State people make a statement with their home-game tailgate. Last week’s OSU postgame energy actually exceeded the pregame energy as the Cowboys scored a 27-24 Bedlam victory.

With seven national titles and seven Heisman Trophy recipients, the University of Oklahoma’s football body of work speaks for itself. As OU officials strive for a splashier tailgate dynamic, it shouldn’t be considered a daunting challenge.It’s not rocket science. OU should study OSU’s template for tailgate success and copy the heck out of it.

 

[stonewallpoke]

From Bill Haisten in the Tulsa World:

They’re going to be overwhelmed when they have to go to Ole Miss.

 

[andylicious]

The fun one will be LSU, Death Valley at night is special. Their tail gating is pretty special

 

[stonewallpoke]

I’d like to say, for the record, that I was deliberately nice to any sooner I could be near once we started to leave the stadium. Thankfully there weren’t any very close to our seats.

Sometimes you really do gotta kill ‘em with kindness. It was easy to be gracious in a win. And I wasn’t smarmy about it, or sarcastic. But I could tell it hurt their feelings to accept the platitudes. I meant what I said (safe travels and whatnot), but sometimes it’s the small things.

 

[stonewallpoke]

If you’d like the best o both worlds, here’s Dave/John over the ABC crew. Credit to the original poster on YouTube.