Osucowboys344
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I don’t want low level pac 12 teams like Oregon state or Washington state unless the revenue is unequal for them because they don’t add much to pot
Conference Realignment - What's next?
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HacklemanPoke
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I feel bad for them as well. We made the trip back in 19 and really enjoyed it. On top of that OrSt is redoing their stadium or just finished.
As much as I hate it for them I hope we stand pat at 16 for football. There will be another round (I think 5-10 yrs) and I think it will be consolidation. I think there’s more value by adding ACC misfits.
When consolidation happens, I think ND, Miami, NC and Virginia go to B1G while Clemson, FSU, Louisville and maybe 1 other go to SEC. That will leave Syracuse, VaTech, GT, Wake, Duke, NCSt, Pitt & BC for pick up.
I can see another scenario where B1G (deal ends 29-30 w 18 teams) SEC (deal ends 34 w 16 teams) ACC (deal ends in 36 w 15 teams) and Big12 (deal ends in 31 w 16 teams) and ND consolidate into one 32-40 team conference. ESPN and Fox have probably over paid for SEC and B1G especially when you consider the dead weight. Drop the dead weight and consolidate football only into one truly national league. They’ve pretty much killed regional conferences and in 8 yrs will anyone care if Georgia and USC and Texas and Michigan are in the same league?
Might be an unpopular take, but I don’t see how we fit into the football only 32-40 team league. I hope we are in it and think we should be based on last 20 yrs. All other sports will be carved off and new regional conferences would be established.
Pretty good assessment. I'm hoping a few years of the ridiculous travel expenses in the lesser sports wakes schools up and it goes back to regional. Just need to stay attractive enough to earn a seat at the table.
I don't think the top conferences will ever drop the "dead weight." If you only have "top" teams, you'll end up with a lot of big names finishing with .500 records, not ideal for TV ratings. As is, top teams will continue to have top records, which will likely have better viewership (even when there is only one in a game). And the networks have a lot of time slots to fill, so I think the "Power 3 (or 4)" conferences will have 64- 80 teams.
I think there will be three 20 team conferences.
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You have to have wins. The goons and horns will find out they are now those wins
PorcupinePoke
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I totally agree with this and I think over the next decade it will become evident how much of a detriment it is. The Big 12 will grow in value while the SEC and B1G have a hard time growing much more than they already are. Lots of those traditional powers will start to fumble as they struggle to keep strong winning records. In the end, I think it leads to more consolidation, but with different goals. The new goal of consolidation (instead of growing value with a few adds) will be to get all the valuable product under one or two roofs. Thereby increasing bargaining power with the media partners. In addition, travel costs will seek to be reduced.
So in summary, I may be wrong but I am very optimistic for Oklahoma State's position going forward. In fact, I give it 2 decades max before bedlam returns. Maybe just one.
Texas, yes. Long run ou, no. Other than the gumps and right now, Georgia the rest of the conference is dead weight. Saban is old. Someone will replace them.
I think it will be the opposite, the whorns have money, the goons not so much.
This would be a really bad move, in my opinion. This is just expansion for the sake of expansion. I’d rather wait for Louisville, Miami, VA Tech, etc.
Why not be a little patient here and see what happens with the ACC? Nobody is racing to add SDSU and Oregon State. They’ll be there down the road.
This rumor started late Friday. The story is ESPN doesn’t want Fox to rule late night football and is willing to pay for this.
Could be.
The naming of Trans-anything is a dicey move these days, what with the mouth breathing crowd. Plus we’re only at the wagon train dropout stage of the country so far.
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Oregon State and Wazzu I would be willing to take in for the discounted rate or is e$pn is covering fully, but I don't and never will understand all this love for SDSU. Last thing we need is to add yet ANOTHER G5 team when we've already been fighting that "glorified G5" narrative. Yes they've had some decent runs in football and basketball in recent years, but do we truly believe that by making them a Big 12 team more people are going to magically start caring about them and they'll be consistently good? Miss me with the "San Diego market" BS too, to me it's a lot like the UConn argument of being in the highly populated northeast; that's all fine and well but if those millions don't tune in to watch then what difference does it make?
I agree. I think OreST and WSU are good adds at partial shares, especially since it looks like we will be moving to 24 team conferences once the ACC folds in the coming years. They honestly have more in common with us than most of the recent adds and do have rabid (but small) fanbases. I think we would quickly regret SDSU. 20k average attendance at football games. OREST and WSU is over double that.
Plus, we are going to need a few bball teams that aren't absolute juggernauts or we will end up devaluing some of our current members, IMO.
WOW thats douchey
