The 52% are not forced to vote one way or the other. They can simply not vote. Around 35% of the eligible voters didn't vote in the 2020 presidential election and it was the largest turnout ever . The real math is this. We had 2.5 million crossings last year and 800k+ got aways plus another 320K flown in the back door that we are just now finding out about. Thats over 3.5 million potential voters in one year and when they vote (and they will eventually vote) they will vote for democrats over republicans at a 2 to 1 ratio according to your own illustration. At your 32% rate that's 1.12 million new democrat voters every year if it stays at this rate. That's the real math. We can agree on one thing .... The republican party is a shitshow. How about we secure the border and let in only the ones that deserve to come in?
Border problem.
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Good grief. We are going to become Northern Mexico at some point. Everyone knows it. Why even worry about things until we are fully part of our new nation?
Now you're coming around.
Everyone can "simply not vote" so until the actual vote happens you are making a WAG. If you are going to attempt that as a point, you are being illogical coming back with:
"they will vote for democrats over republicans at a 2 to 1 ratio according to your own illustration."
A bill to secure the border was destroyed by the republican candidate for president.
Always keep in mind whom you’re dealing with here….
You’re playing chess with a pigeon.
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Don't u mean return to Northen Mexico?
I mean most of the current US was Northern Mexico , them it belonged to France and then I think the US bought a lot of it..some kind of Purchase..
Hear it was pretty big purchase and land mass at the time
I mean most of the current US was Northern Mexico , them it belonged to France and then I think the US bought a lot of it..some kind of Purchase..
Hear it was pretty big purchase and land mass at the time
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"Bought" it at end of Mexican American War in 1848.
Mexico cedes to the U.S. present-day California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Nevada and Arizona, and parts of Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska and Wyoming, for $15 million.
Then we drew an imaginary line on the ground and declared everyone south of it didn't deserve to come back to their traditional native homeland
WAG? From the guy who said this?
Depending on the election, it could go either way as MORE THAN HALF are not even decided. That is the real math
Hillarious.
You all realize why he's saying all these things about illegals voting, right?
It's because his preferred "news" outlets are prepping their base for the "Trump didn't lose fairly because all of the dirty illegal brown people voted for him" defense. It will convince them (again) that they should try to overthrow an illegally obtained presidency, that the govt. is not legitimate. Therefore there's a need for a "revolution".
It's because his preferred "news" outlets are prepping their base for the "Trump didn't lose fairly because all of the dirty illegal brown people voted for him" defense. It will convince them (again) that they should try to overthrow an illegally obtained presidency, that the govt. is not legitimate. Therefore there's a need for a "revolution".
mugatu
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Thats actually the opposite of a WAG. He's saying he doesn't know and that no one knows. You're the one stating confidently that they'll vote D by a 2:1 margin.... if they ever get the right to vote in federal elections.
Tell me how in your hypothetical world that would happen in the next 20 years, beyond that we are talking later generations and longer scale demographic changes. What congress is going to vote for illegal aliens to have the federally mandated right to vote? Senate requires 60% support to pass a bill, that's a lot of states shifting blue.
And NO state currently mandates that undocumented aliens can vote and NO state allows them to vote for state office. They can only vote in local referendums in 17 cities.
So to sum up. Can't vote for any state office, can't vote for any federal office.
Why is this such a huge fear about them shifting the federal balance?
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Yes, that's exactly it....dangit you've outed my master plan. Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?
His own graph states that they will vote D by a 2:1 margin. I'm just using his numbers.
mugatu
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Maybe I missed it, but what I saw was that the Democratic party better represented their views. Neither chart said anything about who they would vote for. Ticky tack difference but you're the only one saying they are going to vote. Hence his comment about them staying home and not voting.
Because according to what about Bob, “they will eventually be voting in federal elections. It's just a matter of time. The democrats know it, the republicans know it, ….”.
Supposedly “everybody” knows this despite the fact that there’s already federal law explicitly prohibiting it that would take a Democrat President, a Democrat Houses, and a filibuster-proof Super Majority of Democrats in the Senate to get it done.
I can’t tell if WAB is just really dumb, doesn’t know there is already such federal law or is actually predicting the electoral demise and decimation of the Republican Party….”eventually”.
What he’s really doing is just parroting xenophobic MAGAts like a useful idiot.
Republicans don't understand their attempts to force religion, attempts to force values, and diminishing and shrinking numbers are leading to their demise. They refuse to believe that is true .but there are Many factors right now that is vastly shrinking the Republican party. They are so blind to it they are willing to believe any and every excuse when voting and policy doesn't go in their favor (which includes making up any and everything under the son to explain the loss) instead of actually even attempting to understand the reality of shifting politics
Yeah, my bad. Forgot where I was for a minute and inadvertently walked in on your little liberal circle jerk over here. Carry on.
mugatu
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Yeah. When was the last filibuster proof Senate? That's what I think is hilarious. We can't even pass popular and politically safe bills, moreless something that would not have support.
mugatu
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I'm surprised you didn't call us socialists or say we were woke.
You're a bunch of woke socialists! Feel better?
