2024 Presidential Election

Massive govt layoffs and spending cuts.
And the reason he didn't do this before was.....?

Probably some 4D chess move we couldn't possibly understand.

And to be clear, I'm not even disagreeing that shrinking the size of the government and reducing national debt are top priorities. But what on earth makes you think this guy is the one to do that when he literally already had the opportunity and didn't.
 
And the reason he didn't do this before was.....?

Probably some 4D chess move we couldn't possibly understand.

And to be clear, I'm not even disagreeing that shrinking the size of the government and reducing national debt are top priorities. But what on earth makes you think this guy is the one to do that when he literally already had the opportunity and didn't.
He still had to run for re-election when he was in the first time.
 
Is this real?
who knows...social media users wondering if he would pay reparations for people affected by DEI because of his talk of reforming our educational system...he said he intends to direct the Department of Justice to take civil rights action against schools engaging in racial discrimination with penalties of fines and/or reduction in endowment funds and restitution for those affected...
 

"If you're upset about grocery prices now, see what happens if Trump goes after a huge part of the agricultural workforce," Krugman wrote.

He detailed how Trump's pledge to deport millions of undocumented immigrants could create a severe labor shortage in critical sectors like agriculture, food processing, and construction, leading to substantial price hikes.

According to Krugman, immigrants make up about three-quarters of agricultural labor, with roughly half of them undocumented.

Food processing also heavily relies on immigrant labor. He estimated that 30 to 50 percent of meatpacking workers are undocumented.

Krugman warned that deporting these workers would force the industry to offer significantly higher wages, a cost that would likely be passed on to consumers.

Krugman further explained that Trump's plans would damage the productive capacity of the economy at a time of near-full employment, fueling inflation.

"Could we easily make up for the loss of these workers by replacing them with native-born workers? No," he said. "Employment among native-born adults in their prime working years is higher than it was at any point during Trump's first term."
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Undocumented immigrants constitute more than a fifth of the U.S. construction workforce. "The answer to that problem is to build more housing units," Krugman wrote, claiming deportations would severely hamper efforts to increase the housing supply.

sidenote: from pew research:
The number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. workforce grew from 7.4 million in 2019 to 8.3 million in 2022. The 2022 number equals previous highs in 2008 and 2011.

Unauthorized immigrants represent about 4.8% of the U.S. workforce in 2022. This was below the peak of 5.4% in 2007.
 
😂They’re gonna start by cutting a crap ton of government jobs.

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Seems to cut spending and to avoid conflict of interest step one of this needs to be Musk either divesting of his stock in the companies that he leads that do business with the Federal Government or cancelling every government contract. Pretty hypocritical of a billionaire to suck at the government teet for millions of dollars while firing the regular working guy. But, that is what the people voted for.
 
Good news is all the government jobs trump cuts can go work all the immigrant jobs when he deports them…it’ll all work out… prepare for the $h!t $how…
 
And, gee, it is pretty clear that the growth of the federal workforce( almost as high now as it was in 1990) is the issue with our debt.
We have elected people who act on emotion, divisiveness, and scorn and avoid facts.

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I don't understand this nomination other than to put in place a yes man. He has no major command experience (Army reserve Captain), and no major DOD policy or other Pentagon level experience or experience on international stage. How the F is he going to lead the entire DOD?
 
And, gee, it is pretty clear that the growth of the federal workforce( almost as high now as it was in 1990) is the issue with our debt.
We have elected people who act on emotion, divisiveness, and scorn and avoid facts.

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What are the narrow spikes in the top plot?

That's total gov employment, so I assume that includes uniformed military, that would explain the drawdown in the 90's during the Clinton military downsizing.


Top 10 Agencies
Defense and security-related agencies accounted for 70.6% of the entire federal workforce.

VETERANS AFFAIRS. 21.3%
NAVY. 10.39%
ARMY. 9.78%
HOMELAND SECURITY. 9.35%
AIR FORCE. 7.79%
DEFENSE. 6.49%
JUSTICE. 5.52%
TREASURY. 4.55%
AGRICULTURE. 3.87%
HHS. 3.64%
OTHER. 17.32%
Data does not include employees of the legislative or judicial branches, the intelligence community, the U.S. Postal Service, foreign service officers or locally employed staff within the Department of State, or uniformed military personnel.

 
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Cuts to government spending and spending growth.

Do I think he will really do it? No.

Massive govt layoffs and spending cuts.

We had a deficit of $1.83 trillion dollars for FY2024. What specific measures would you take to reduce that and how much would each of those measures save?

From what I can find, if you fired every single federal employee, you'd save about $271 billion, or about 15% of that deficit, so clearly massive layoffs will not make a dent. What else will you cut?
 
We had a deficit of $1.83 trillion dollars for FY2024. What specific measures would you take to reduce that and how much would each of those measures save?

From what I can find, if you fired every single federal employee, you'd save about $271 billion, or about 15% of that deficit, so clearly massive layoffs will not make a dent. What else will you cut?
It's not the number of employees. It's the services, many of which help support lower income families and certain industries. By cutting employees they will save on the other programs because no one will be around to process anything.
 
What are the narrow spikes in the top plot?

That's total gov employment, so I assume that includes uniformed military, that would explain the drawdown in the 90's during the Clinton military downsizing.


Top 10 Agencies
Defense and security-related agencies accounted for 70.6% of the entire federal workforce.

VETERANS AFFAIRS
21.3
NAVY
10.39
ARMY
9.78
HOMELAND SECURITY
9.35
AIR FORCE
7.79
DEFENSE
6.49
JUSTICE
5.52
TREASURY
4.55
AGRICULTURE
3.87
HHS
3.64
OTHER
17.32
Data does not include employees of the legislative or judicial branches, the intelligence community, the U.S. Postal Service, foreign service officers or locally employed staff within the Department of State, or uniformed military personnel.

Temporary hires for issues like COVID, GFC etc.

And, here is the "overpaid" Federal workforce. This isn't going to make a dent in the debt. But, given that 60% of fed employees are DOD, VA etc, mass layoffs as proposed will harm the military and vets.
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