2024 Presidential Election

[Stillwaterman]

I wasn't posting it insinuating cheating, I was truly curious why, when everyone insisted this was the most important election in history, when Oprah told us it was possibly the last one we would ever have, did so many less people show up to vote.

A lot of people didn't want to sign off on the candidate presented. It's that simple.

 

[Bowers3]

I wasn't posting it insinuating cheating, I was truly curious why, when everyone insisted this was the most important election in history, when Oprah told us it was possibly the last one we would ever have, did so many less people show up to vote.

 

[PF5]

I know you are a deep Harris supporter so not trying to kick when you are down, but what is your concern about how this will affect your daughters?

never was a deep Harris supporter...just a deep anti-trumpster...women's rights...

 

[Bowers3]

A lot of people didn't want to sign off on the candidate presented. It's that simple.

This wasn't an exciting election for the Dems. Last time was during a pandemic, a lot of states it was easier to vote by mail-in, and people went hard to vote against Trump. I also think maybe some of those votes went to Trump who also had 3 million less votes than 2020. About 15 million less people voted in this election. That's not unheard of. And there is still counting to be done.

 

[Rob B.]

Rob, I love you, man, but please stop with this. This country is deeply divided and it needs healing and rubbing people’s noses in it isn’t going to help. Your guy won. It wasn’t what I wanted.* Be magnanimous in victory. Be bigger now to the other side than you think they would be to you. Be as big in victory now as you would want them to be to you if your guy lost.

*There really wasn’t a good outcome for me either way. But this is the outcome I wanted least.


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You're right, back in July, when I said I was removing myself from this forum until the election because it was just a liberal circle jerk of hate, I should have stayed and tried to convince the jerkers that they were only causing more division in this country. This is all my fault.

 

[Rob B.]

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Just wondering when the burning and looting begins.

The most amazing part is that 20,000,000 democratic voters just disappeared since 2020.

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And the reason it cuts off in 2012? Doesn't really mesh with the internet geniuses "HMMM INTERESTING" vibe, does it?

 

[steross]

Just wondering when the burning and looting begins.

The most amazing part is that 20,000,000 democratic voters just disappeared since 2020.

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Maybe ask the 1964 dems where they got all those votes and that might explain 2020. Or, the Rs in 1972.
I guess Zerohedge wasn't around in the 1960s. Researching voting totals to see what would count as a real anomaly isn't nearly as fun as putting out skewed, limited data to get the gullible conspiracy theorists all excited.

 

[steross]

I wasn't posting it insinuating cheating, I was truly curious why, when everyone insisted this was the most important election in history, when Oprah told us it was possibly the last one we would ever have, did so many less people show up to vote.

Do you really think they have a complete vote total from last night?

 

[GratefulPoke]

I wasn't posting it insinuating cheating, I was truly curious why, when everyone insisted this was the most important election in history, when Oprah told us it was possibly the last one we would ever have, did so many less people show up to vote.

Its because Kamala Harris would not finish any better than 6th in the democratic primaries if they were held. Joe Biden not following through in his one term pledge and the DNC's handling of it cost them the election. They have several good to great candidates. They went with one who was milquetoast and got a milquetoast result.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

You're right, back in July, when I said I was removing myself from this forum until the election because it was just a liberal circle jerk of hate, I should have stayed and tried to convince the jerkers that they were only causing more division in this country. This is all my fault.

You're right - it's everyone elses fault. Haha.

And for the record, I'm not liberal, just anti-Trump. Been a republican my whole life. But I'll never vote for him. And I hate what he's done to the party. And honestly the people I feel the worst for are Ukraine. It's incredibly sad for them. Trump has proven me wrong before with his geopolitical agenda, but there's a really good chance were going to see a sharp ramp up in nuclear proliferation after this.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

never was a deep Harris supporter...just a deep anti-trumpster...women's rights...

Same. Both sides I think misunderstood the voting base. MANY Biden's voters didn't wanted far left policies, they only wanted Trump gone. But the left acted like they had a mandate to make boys into girls and borders aren't real. Meanwhile the Trumpers expelled anyone who didn't agree with whatever Trump said that day, regardless of political position. They can't tell their ideological enemies from their friends that just didn't like Trump.

 

[mugatu]

Trump has proven me wrong before with his geopolitical agenda, but there's a really good chance were going to see a sharp ramp up in nuclear proliferation after this.

Definitely. I could see several NATO countries upping their Nuclear arsenals on the thought that the US may not be there to defend them. Same for S Korea, maybe Japan and Australia.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Maybe ask the 1964 dems where they got all those votes and that might explain 2020. Or, the Rs in 1972.
I guess Zerohedge wasn't around in the 1960s. Researching voting totals to see what would count as a real anomaly isn't nearly as fun as putting out skewed, limited data to get the gullible conspiracy theorists all excited.

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Ha, we had the same callout. Rob's chart only showed what whoever created it wanted it to show.

 

[LS1 Z28]

We tend to overcomplicate elections. Trump likely would've sailed into a second consecutive term without the pandemic, and Biden or Harris would've had a much better chance in this election had it not been for inflation. People tend to vote for change when they aren't happy.

I'm not surprised that Trump won. I am surprised that he's winning the popular vote. That sends a strong message.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Definitely. I could see several NATO countries upping their Nuclear arsenals on the thought that the US may not be there to defend them. Same for S Korea, maybe Japan and Australia.

I mean, what other choice do they have? I play the game of "if I was in charge of a tiny country next to Russia and I just saw what happened to Ukraine, what would I do?" The ONLY option is nuclear.

While his disdain for political procedure and rule of law is troublesome, his isolationist tendencies and lack of interest in foreign relations is by far the biggest danger he poses.

 

[Stillwaterman]

Its because Kamala Harris would not finish any better than 6th in the democratic primaries if they were held. Joe Biden not following through in his one term pledge and the DNC's handling of it cost them the election. They have several good to great candidates. They went with one who was milquetoast and got a milquetoast result.

And the fact that that choice to go with Harris was made between a few people is crazy to me. I understand there was 260 million in campaign funds.. That number is a 1/12 of the $$ privately wagered on the election. It would have been survivable to start over and I personally believe they would have won doing so.

Forcing the fact with an ill-equipped candidate was the wrong move. Honestly the results serve them right and they will wear it on their sleeves forever.

 

[GratefulPoke]

I mean, what other choice do they have? I play the game of "if I was in charge of a tiny country next to Russia and I just saw what happened to Ukraine, what would I do?" The ONLY option is nuclear.

While his disdain for political procedure and rule of law is troublesome, his isolationist tendencies and lack of interest in foreign relations is by far the biggest danger he poses.

The US backing away from alliances is going to cause nuclear proliferation. I would not be surprised if Poland and South Korea pursue nuclear programs in the near future.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

We tend to overcomplicate elections. Trump likely would've sailed into a second consecutive term without the pandemic, and Biden or Harris would've had a much better chance in this election had it not been for inflation. People tend to vote for change when they aren't happy.

I'm not surprised that Trump won. I am surprised that he's winning the popular vote. That sends a strong message.

Really nailed it here.

 

[Rob B.]

Its because Kamala Harris would not finish any better than 6th in the democratic primaries if they were held. Joe Biden not following through in his one term pledge and the DNC's handling of it cost them the election. They have several good to great candidates. They went with one who was milquetoast and got a milquetoast result.

This, they could have hand picked literally anyone other than her and won this election