2024 Presidential Election

They aren’t in a process to get rid of it. There is a ballot measure to vote on getting rid of it. The “gaming” that occurred is Sarah Palin is such a poor candidate that the people that voted for the other republican did not put Palin second so the democrat who got the most 1st place votes won. Conservatives think that means it doesn’t work. No, it means your candidate sucked and even republicans didn’t want her. https://alaskapublic.org/2024/10/29...he-first-state-to-ditch-ranked-choice-voting/



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“Part of that defeat was due to the fact that many Begich voters either failed to rank anyone second or chose Peltola after Begich was eliminated.”
How is voter stupidity/apathy/voting the way they wanted gaming the system? Or are you saying republicans are trying to game the system Because rank choice voting is doing exactly what they thought and making it harder to get power?
 
“Part of that defeat was due to the fact that many Begich voters either failed to rank anyone second or chose Peltola after Begich was eliminated.”
How is voter stupidity/apathy/voting the way they wanted gaming the system? Or are you saying republicans are trying to game the system Because rank choice voting is doing exactly what they thought and making it harder to get power?

Read the first paragraph again. It’s going to end up with only two candidates on the ballot so that no one from either party splits that party’s votes. When you have two candidates what difference does it make how you rank them?


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As Trump promises the largest mass deportation of undocumented immigrants in U.S. history if re-elected, his team is considering withholding grants from local law enforcement agencies that decline to take part in the deportations, sources tell NBC News.

 
NEW: A Texas Woman Died After waiting 40 hours for medical care after the Hospital Said It Would be a “Crime” to Intervene in Her Miscarriage

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.
 
NEW: A Texas Woman Died After waiting 40 hours for medical care after the Hospital Said It Would be a “Crime” to Intervene in Her Miscarriage

Josseli Barnica is one of at least two pregnant Texas women who died after doctors delayed emergency care. She’d told her husband that the medical team said it couldn’t act until the fetal heartbeat stopped.
I have a friend in Georgia who almost died because of this too. This is very real and if people have women in their lives they care about in conservative states, they should consider this when voting.
 
Read the first paragraph again. It’s going to end up with only two candidates on the ballot so that no one from either party splits that party’s votes. When you have two candidates what difference does it make how you rank them?


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That doesn't mean you get rid of the option to rank them. What happens if/when you get a 3rd party past the primary?

You've been big on wanting another option and how you can't vote for either in your state but luckily you have a 3rd party candidate. If there was a popular enough 3rd party candidate they would get through the open primary and into the general election. Then sure the party with 2 can have one drop, but you still have 3 options.

This move to kill the ranked choice would prevent that and further prevent 3rd party options. Seems on par with every other attempt at getting rid of challenges to each party.
 

SCOTUS allows VA to resume voter registration purges even though federal law states there is a 90 day quiet period prior to any election. Maybe a different state but I know these purges have resulted in valid voters being removed from the registry this year.

What happens to valid voters that already voted early and get removed? Do they face charges for voter fraud? Can people in VA register at the polls and vote provisionally if they get there and find out they have been removed?
 
Read the first paragraph again. It’s going to end up with only two candidates on the ballot so that no one from either party splits that party’s votes. When you have two candidates what difference does it make how you rank them?


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They only had a democrats and republicans on the ballot. There could always be other parties. The republicans who had multiple people on the ballot didn’t like that one of their candidates didn’t get the second place votes also so they republicans are trying to rig an election. No surprise since that’s all they have done. So it worked and one party didn’t like the way it worked. So one party keeps trying to screw voters and you like most former republicans are still but both siding this. It’s one side and that’s that. And you note voting for Harris in Michigan makes you a Trump voter in my opinion. Did you read that right? My OPINION?
 
They only had a democrats and republicans on the ballot. There could always be other parties. The republicans who had multiple people on the ballot didn’t like that one of their candidates didn’t get the second place votes also so they republicans are trying to rig an election. No surprise since that’s all they have done. So it worked and one party didn’t like the way it worked. So one party keeps trying to screw voters and you like most former republicans are still but both siding this. It’s one side and that’s that. And you note voting for Harris in Michigan makes you a Trump voter in my opinion. Did you read that right? My OPINION?

And in RFK Jr’s opinion if I vote for him I’m stealing votes from Trump and ergo a Harris voter. No one’s opinion about my vote matters but my own because it is my vote.

I do like RFK Jr’s logic.


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And in RFK Jr’s opinion if I vote for him I’m stealing votes from Trump and ergo a Harris voter. No one’s opinion about my vote matters but my own because it is my vote.

I do like RFK Jr’s logic.


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You don’t have to care about my opinion but don’t ever tell me my opinion is trying to tell you who to vote for.
 
And in RFK Jr’s opinion if I vote for him I’m stealing votes from Trump and ergo a Harris voter. No one’s opinion about my vote matters but my own because it is my vote.

I do like RFK Jr’s logic.


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If you changed your political status because of how republicans managed COVID but voted for the an anti vaccine candidate like captain brain worms, I dont think anyone's logic really applies.

That being said, in 2004 I used "inky binky bonkey" to cast my presidential ballot so who am I to judge someone's logic.

It's unfortunate that Alaska republicans are trying to circumvent ranked choice voting, but that this their perogative. I'd prefer they either promote more moderate candidates or have voters punish them if they don't, but the world usually doesn't work that way. I'd love to see ranked choice everywhere-from your political perspective I can see how you sympathize with Alaska republicans but think about the possibility of it in California. It would be a great way to weed out some of the crazies on either side and at the very least give is politicians who may be partisan but are also somewhat logical.
 
If you changed your political status because of how republicans managed COVID but voted for the an anti vaccine candidate like captain brain worms, I dont think anyone's logic really applies.

That being said, in 2004 I used "inky binky bonkey" to cast my presidential ballot so who am I to judge someone's logic.

It's unfortunate that Alaska republicans are trying to circumvent ranked choice voting, but that this their perogative. I'd prefer they either promote more moderate candidates or have voters punish them if they don't, but the world usually doesn't work that way. I'd love to see ranked choice everywhere-from your political perspective I can see how you sympathize with Alaska republicans but think about the possibility of it in California. It would be a great way to weed out some of the crazies on either side and at the very least give is politicians who may be partisan but are also somewhat logical.

I didn’t change because of covid. I changed after Jan 6. The insurrection was the final straw for me.

I think ranked-choice sounds nice, but the two parties desire power above all and will find a way around it to maintain power. That’s cynical, I know, but that’s pretty much where I’m at.


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When did I say that?


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Unless I miss understood this post here.
I’ve had people on both sides tell me my vote is an effective vote for the other side. I’m sorry, but political speech doesn’t work that way. You don’t get to speak for me. You don’t get to interpret my vote. My vote is for who I cast it for and against who I cast it against and I alone get to decide that. You don’t have to like it, but that is the way it is.

I give guitar lessons on Tuesday night and I have a long drive home which gave me a long time to think. What I really want is for Trump to lose, lose badly, and for MAGA to be purged from Republican Party. I think Trump is going to lose, but will it be bad enough for MAGA to be purged? I dunno. I doubt it. A lot to think about.


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SMH...
In US swing states, officials brace for conspiracy theories and violence reuters

With the U.S. election days just away, officials in the most competitive battleground states are bracing for misinformation, conspiracy theories, threats and possible violence.
In Philadelphia, Detroit and Atlanta, three of former President Donald Trump’s favorite targets for false claims of voter fraud, officials have fortified their operations against a repeat of the chaos of 2020. Philadelphia’s ballot-counting warehouse is now surrounded by fencing topped with barbed wire. In Detroit and Atlanta, some election offices are protected by bullet-proof glass.

In Wisconsin, election workers have been trained on de-escalation techniques and polling stations rearranged so workers have escape routes if they are menaced by protestors.
In Arizona, an epicenter in 2020 for false claims by Republicans about rigged voting, the secretary of state is working with local officials on how to respond to misinformation, including deep-fake images of purported fraud.
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Throughout his campaign, Trump has repeated the falsehood that he won in 2020 while signaling he would contest a possible loss to Harris.
On Friday, in a post on Trump’s Truth Social platform, he wrote that there was "rampant Cheating and Skulduggery" in 2020 and threatened election officials and others “involved in unscrupulous behavior” this cycle with prosecution.

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In a virtual meeting for prospective poll workers, an official with the Republican National Committee warned the volunteers that Detroit was not to be trusted. "Because that city, if I could get away with ... you know, burning it to the ground, I would try," said Morgan Ray, the RNC's director of election integrity for Michigan, according to a previously unreported recording of the Sept. 10 meeting obtained by Reuters. Ray and the RNC didn’t respond to requests for comment on her remarks.

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In North Carolina, some county election offices have installed panic buttons, bulletproof glass, security cameras and heavier doors, said State Board of Elections spokesperson Patrick Gannon. Election officials have been trained to defuse tensions with angry activists, he said. Police have been given pocket guides on election law in anticipation of increased challenges.

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In the small northern Wisconsin town of Caswell, clerk Tamaney “Sam” Augustin has shifted poll workers across the room, so they faced, rather than sat next to, the door — with two exits directly behind them.
“We’ve never had anything happen,” she said, “but we live in a different world now.”
 
Police arrested an 18-year-old wielding a machete with an 18-inch blade outside a polling station in Florida Tuesday, who was part of a group of teenagers accused of intimidating Democratic supporters.
 
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