Trump 2024 Run Thread

GOGETUMPOKE said:
Remind me again which laws he has been convicted of breaking? They'll for sure get him on this one though.
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rump Debuts New Legal Theory: Even If Guilty, 'There Is No Crime'​


Appearing at a New York state courthouse on Thursday, former President Donald Trump made a bizarre assertion about the criminal hush-money case against him.

According to Trump, “virtually every legal scholar says they don’t understand” the charges.

“Even if "he" was guilty of something, there is no crime,” Trump told reporters, referring to himself.


The comment smacks of the entitlement to being above the law, which prosecutors and political opponents have long accused Trump of harboring.

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg brought a 34-count indictment against Trump last year over allegedly falsified business records, including the hush-money payments made to adult film stars Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal.

Bragg’s legal strategy against Trump has been viewed with some skepticism in part because, in order to secure a felony conviction, instead of just a misdemeanor, Bragg will have to prove that Trump falsified his business records in pursuance of some other crime, and it is not yet clear what that other crime is. But falsifying business records is still a crime in the state of New York.
 
Polds4OSU said:

rump Debuts New Legal Theory: Even If Guilty, 'There Is No Crime'​


Appearing at a New York state courthouse on Thursday, former President Donald Trump made a bizarre assertion about the criminal hush-money case against him.

According to Trump, “virtually every legal scholar says they don’t understand” the charges.

“Even if "he" was guilty of something, there is no crime,” Trump told reporters, referring to himself.


The comment smacks of the entitlement to being above the law, which prosecutors and political opponents have long accused Trump of harboring.

Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg brought a 34-count indictment against Trump last year over allegedly falsified business records, including the hush-money payments made to adult film stars Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal.

Bragg’s legal strategy against Trump has been viewed with some skepticism in part because, in order to secure a felony conviction, instead of just a misdemeanor, Bragg will have to prove that Trump falsified his business records in pursuance of some other crime, and it is not yet clear what that other crime is. But falsifying business records is still a crime in the state of New York.
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When even the strong anti-Trumpers say that Bragg has “stretched to reach felony criminal charges in order to fit a political agenda” and “you have to work hard to make President Trump a martyr, congratulations to Alvin Bragg, who managed to do just that”. It isn’t good news from Bragg and those that pushed to have the trial.

You have to wonder why Bragg initially declined to bring charges and then abruptly changed course 6 years after the hush money payment and in the middle of a Presidential campaign. Not a good look. And another activity that could possibly strengthen Trump.
 
JTOSU said:
When even the strong anti-Trumpers say that Bragg has “stretched to reach felony criminal charges in order to fit a political agenda” and “you have to work hard to make President Trump a martyr, congratulations to Alvin Bragg, who managed to do just that”. It isn’t good news from Bragg and those that pushed to have the trial.

You have to wonder why Bragg initially declined to bring charges and then abruptly changed course 6 years after the hush money payment and in the middle of a Presidential campaign. Not a good look. And another activity that could possibly strengthen Trump.
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Yeah I mean I guess it is cool if they were only misdemeanors....cause there is clear evidence of falsified record's...I mean misdemeanors are nothing right. Especially for the guy running the party that stands on Law and Order as one of their base principles

The "there is no crime" means he wants you to over look the misdemeanors too
 
Vakarian74 said:
I love how he keeps saying he’s anti Trump. They both defend him for just about everything.
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This was from a Politico op-ed. You claiming Politico is remotely conservative? As they point out, even very liberal Vox legal analysts call the case “dubious”.

Bragg’s action over an affair hush money payment and the behavior of Fani Willis is just going to help Trump. MSNBC hosts bashed Willis today and the main headline currently on their website is “Fani Willis just gave Donald Trump exactly what he wants”.

A person would truly need to be drowning in koolaid not to understand this will likely backfire. And helping Trump claim to be the victim of political interference.
 

GOP Utah Gov. Cox: Republicans making ‘a huge mistake’ if they nominate Trump​


Utah Gov. Spencer Cox believes Republicans will make “a huge mistake” if they select former President Donald Trump as the party’s 2024 nominee.

“I’m a Republican, and I respect my party and I respect my party’s voters, although I think it’s a huge mistake,” Cox told the media at his monthly news conference on Thursday. “I think if we were to nominate Gov. (Nikki) Haley or literally anyone else, we would win by 10 to 14 points (in November).”

Cox, the current chair of the National Governors Association, noted that he did not vote for Trump in either 2016 or 2020, choosing to write in another candidate. Cox’s wife, Utah first lady Abby Cox, has endorsed Haley’s candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination and serves as a member of Haley’s Utah leadership team.

Gov. Cox has not formally endorsed any candidate.

“I support governors, and I would love to see a governor win. There’s only one left, I guess,” Cox said. “I would love to see Haley nominated and win, but I think it’s pretty clear that’s not going to happen.”

Cox has “no doubt” that Trump will win Utah’s presidential preference poll on March 5, and he predicts that Trump will go on to win the general election in November. When asked why he thinks voters support President Joe Biden, Cox said it is because “he’s not Donald Trump.”

“I think that we should be nominating different people,” he said. “I think both parties are making a huge mistake. ... I think the party that figures this out first and nominates someone else, although that may be four years from now, is going to clean up in a big way.”

At present, Trump leads national polls of Republican voters by a dominant margin. In South Carolina, where a Republican primary will be held next week, Trump leads by over 30 percentage points; in Utah, which will cast its votes on Super Tuesday, the latest Deseret News/Hinckley Institute poll shows Trump ahead by 20 percentage points.

Trump and Biden are neck-and-neck in many polls forecasting a November rematch, despite both candidates showing low favorability ratings.

Cox said he has shown an ability to ”work very closely with with presidents from either party.”

“I do think that President Trump is going to win the general election, and I will work very closely with him. I look forward to working closely with him,” Cox said. “If President Biden wins again, I’ll work closely with him as well.”


But Cox pointed to Biden’s record on immigration as the hinge point in November’s general election. Cox said Biden and Congress both “dropped the ball,” blaming them for “not performing their constitutional duties” in regards to securing the border.

“It’s going to cost (Biden) the election, just to be very clear,” Cox said. “He will lose because of this.”
 

I wonder how many Millions of $$$ will be spent on legal fees ​

Lara Trump says she’d spend ‘every single penny’ of RNC funds to elect father-in-law​

Lara Trump doubled down on her support for her father-in-law, former President Trump, vowing Tuesday to spend “every single penny” of Republican National Committee (RNC) funds to reelect him to the White House.

Asked by Newsmax host Rob Schmitt what needs to change to make the RNC more competitive, Lara Trump said Tuesday: “The RNC needs to be the leanest, most lethal political fighting machine we’ve ever seen in American history.”


“That is the goal over the next nine-and-a-half months. If I am elected to this position, I can assure you, there will not be any more $70,000 — or whatever exorbitant amount of money it was — spent on flowers,” she continued. “Every single penny will go to the No. 1 and the only job of the RNC — that is elected Donald J. Trump as president of the United States and saving this country.”

The pledge comes just days after the former president threw his support behind his daughter-in-law to serve as co-chair of the RNC. Donald Trump called her “an extremely talented communicator who is dedicated to all that MAGA stands for” while also endorsing North Carolina GOP Party Chair Michael Whatley to serve as RNC chair.

Lara Trump is married to Eric Trump and has been involved with the RNC and party donors since the her father-in-law’s time in the Oval Office. If she and Whatley are elected by RNC members, it would secure a full takeover of the committee by the former president.
 

Summary​

  1. A New York judge has ordered Donald Trump to pay more than $350m in a landmark fraud case
  2. The ex-president has also been prohibited from acting as a company director in New York state for three years
  3. His sons, Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump, were also fined $4m each and blocked from acting as directors for two years
  4. Trump and his two adult sons had already been found liable of massively inflating the value of their properties by hundreds of millions of dollars in a trial that ended last month
  5. The men all deny any wrongdoing, with the former president calling the case a "fraud" and a "political witch hunt"
  6. New York's attorney general had asked the judge to fine Trump $370m (£294m) for what she calls the "outrageous" schemes
 
PF5 said:

Summary​

  1. A New York judge has ordered Donald Trump to pay more than $350m in a landmark fraud case
  2. The ex-president has also been prohibited from acting as a company director in New York state for three years
  3. His sons, Donald Trump Jr and Eric Trump, were also fined $4m each and blocked from acting as directors for two years
  4. Trump and his two adult sons had already been found liable of massively inflating the value of their properties by hundreds of millions of dollars in a trial that ended last month
  5. The men all deny any wrongdoing, with the former president calling the case a "fraud" and a "political witch hunt"
  6. New York's attorney general had asked the judge to fine Trump $370m (£294m) for what she calls the "outrageous" schemes
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Epically bad 48 hours for Trump

The special council that Trump appointed to look into Hunter and Joe and their Burisma Dealings...ended up having the Witness/whistleblower arrested yesterday and charged for lying about all of it.

Trump appointed special council to find these supposed illegal dealings in Ukraine and this was what the House was going to Impeach Biden on and Trumps OWN HAND PICKED special council ends up arresting and charging the guy that was the Witness and supposedly had all the dirt on the Biden's.
 
Polds4OSU said:
Epically bad 48 hours for Trump

The special council that Trump appointed to look into Hunter and Joe and their Burisma Dealings...ended up having the Witness/whistleblower arrested yesterday and charged for lying about all of it.

Trump appointed special council to find these supposed illegal dealings in Ukraine and this was what the House was going to Impeach Biden on and Trumps OWN HAND PICKED special council ends up arresting and charging the guy that was the Witness and supposedly had all the dirt on the Biden's.
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Asking for a fellow poster but does this qualify as “This time they finally got him”?

Seems that way doesn’t it?

Interest on this and the Carroll verdict will run him $150,000 per day.
 
HacklemanPoke said:
Asking for a fellow poster but does this qualify as “This time they finally got him”?

Seems that way doesn’t it?

Interest on this and the Carroll verdict will run him $150,000 per day.
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So they really have got him this time? This is the one? He should take up painting and sell his masterpieces to anonymous buyers. He’ll be out of this in no time!
 
unveiled shoes for $399 and cologne for $99 and there will be plenty of fools that buy this $&t...LOL

Trump rails against legal perils in battleground Michigan politico


Fresh off unveiling $399 Trump-branded gold sneakers a day after a judge leveled a nearly $355 million fraud penalty against him, former President Donald Trump wasted no time on stage in battleground Michigan lambasting, well, everything.

Ten days before the state’s GOP primary, the former president immediately unleashed an angry tirade against the country’s legal system on his return to Waterford Township on Saturday.

“That decision yesterday in New York, you may have read about it. Crooked judge. Crooked judge,” Trump said, referring to Friday’s ruling. “The case is a complete and total sham. It’s a sham case.”


That ruling hit him with the hefty payment for fraudulently inflating his financial statements for a decade while also barring him from running a business in New York for three years.
The first 15 minutes of Trump’s speech were focused on his ongoing legal perils, and he couldn’t resist repeatedly returning to the topic later in his meandering remarks. Saturday marked the first time he addressed supporters amid the latest decisions, which once again threw his multiple indictments to the forefront of the presidential race as Trump balances a busy court schedule and his third run for the White House.

On Thursday, a New York state judge ruled that his trial on charges related to hush money payments to porn star Stormy Daniels will begin March 25, placing Trump in court for weeks instead of on the road as he prepares for a rematch against President Joe Biden. The schedule for his other three criminal trials is still unclear, adding another element of uncertainty for the former president as he tries to convince voters to bring him back into the White House.

Trump owes $443.1 million in judgments between Friday’s ruling and the damages and payments he’s been ordered to pay to writer E. Jean Carroll over defamatory statements he made while president in response to her rape accusation. It’s likely that he will have to drain his war chest for legal fees this summer, which could leave him in a cash crunch in the final stretch to November.

Trump on Saturday again attacked Carol and ranted against Special Counsel Jack Smith, who is leading two federal probes against the former president for his handling of classified documents and separately, the election interference, Jan. 6 case. He also crudely mocked the name of Fani Willis, the Fulton County district attorney who has charged Trump and 18 others with violating Georgia’s anti-racketeering law by scheming to illegally overturn the 2020 election results.

“These people. They’re not looking for justice,” Trump said. “They only care about how to stop crooked Joe Biden’s political opponent. That’s me.”

Trump has repeatedly leaned into the indictments as a political tool, fundraising off of his legal challenges and telling voters that he’s being “indicted for you.” He’s made the 2024 race about his own personal grievances and is often unable to refrain from focusing his speeches on what he repeatedly declares the political “witch hunt.”

Before his stop in Michigan, Trump appeared at “Sneaker Con” in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, on Saturday, where he carried the gold sneakers on the stage for a brief appearance. They’re being sold as “Never Surrender High-Tops” on a new website, which also includes a Trump-branded “Victory47” cologne and perfume for $99 a bottle.

“Donald Trump showing up to hawk bootleg Off-Whites is the closest he’ll get to any Air Force Ones ever again for the rest of his life,” said Biden campaign communications director Michael Tyler, slamming the former president’s latest marketing wheeze.
 
most of these presidential rankings, regularly have trump last or near bottom...but for some reason many people want this dude to be our leader again...smh...

New presidential rankings place Obama in top 10, Reagan and Trump below Biden foxnews

A new ranking of presidents by a group of self-styled experts determined that Abraham Lincoln is America's greatest president, while Donald Trump ranks last.

Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey.

According to a release from the Presidential Greatness Project, which touts itself as the "foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics," the 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association…as well as scholars who have recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses."

The respondents were asked to rank presidents on a scale of 0-100, with 0 being a failure, 50 being average and 100 being great. Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five.

Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Peirce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41.

Respondents were also tracked by their political affiliation and ideology, which the release argues did not "tend to make a major difference overall" in the rankings, though there were some outliers, mainly with recent presidents.

Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and Trump were more likely to be ranked higher by conservatives or Republicans, with Reagan being ranked an average of 5th by Republicans respondents, Bush 19th and Trump 41st. Among Democrat respondents, Reagan was rated an average of 18th, Bush 33rd and Trump 45th.

A similar partisan divide was noticeable for Barack Obama and President Biden, who ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans. Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was ranked higher by Republican respondents (10th) than he was by Democrats (12th).

The divide resulted in an overall ranking of 7th for Obama, 12th for Clinton, 14th for Biden, 16th for Reagan and 32nd for Bush.
 
PF5 said:
most of these presidential rankings, regularly have trump last or near bottom...but for some reason many people want this dude to be our leader again...smh...

New presidential rankings place Obama in top 10, Reagan and Trump below Biden foxnews

A new ranking of presidents by a group of self-styled experts determined that Abraham Lincoln is America's greatest president, while Donald Trump ranks last.

Lincoln topped the list of presidents in the 2024 Presidential Greatness Project expert survey for the third time, following his top spot in the rankings in the 2015 and 2018 versions of the survey.

According to a release from the Presidential Greatness Project, which touts itself as the "foremost organization of social science experts in presidential politics," the 154 respondents to the survey included "current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association…as well as scholars who have recently published peer-reviewed academic research in key related scholarly journals or academic presses."

The respondents were asked to rank presidents on a scale of 0-100, with 0 being a failure, 50 being average and 100 being great. Rounding out the top five in the rankings were Franklin Delano Roosevelt at number two, George Washington at three, Theodore Roosevelt at four, and Thomas Jefferson at five.

Trump was ranked in last place in the survey, being ranked worse than James Buchanan at 44, Andrew Johnson at 43, Franklin Peirce at 42, and William Henry Harrison at 41.

Respondents were also tracked by their political affiliation and ideology, which the release argues did not "tend to make a major difference overall" in the rankings, though there were some outliers, mainly with recent presidents.

Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush and Trump were more likely to be ranked higher by conservatives or Republicans, with Reagan being ranked an average of 5th by Republicans respondents, Bush 19th and Trump 41st. Among Democrat respondents, Reagan was rated an average of 18th, Bush 33rd and Trump 45th.

A similar partisan divide was noticeable for Barack Obama and President Biden, who ranked an average of 6th and 13th, respectively, among Democrat respondents, and 15th and 30th by Republicans. Bill Clinton, a Democrat, was ranked higher by Republican respondents (10th) than he was by Democrats (12th).

The divide resulted in an overall ranking of 7th for Obama, 12th for Clinton, 14th for Biden, 16th for Reagan and 32nd for Bush.
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Reagan and Clinton were top two in my lifetime IMO.

Odd scoring. Reagan 5th among Republicans and 18th among Democrats, but only 16th overall. Hmmm
 
JTOSU said:
Reagan and Clinton were top two in my lifetime IMO.

Odd scoring. Reagan 5th among Republicans and 18th among Democrats, but only 16th overall. Hmmm
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rep. rank dem rank ind. rank conservative rank liberal rank moderate rank
5 18 14 5 18 11
 
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