OSU verses NC State

MJM

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Looks like a great dual with NC State on January 5th. Will use Intermat Rankings below. I say 1 match OSU is a lock, 1 match NC State is a lock, 8 toss ups. If one calls toss up, looks like a 5 to 5 dual.

125. Camacho #17 for NCS v. Spratley #22 for OSU. Camacho had been ranked much higher (#1 I think) but got pinned in Ohio State dual. Spratley has looked good at times, but has lost to everyone he wrestled in top 15. Let's see if he gets win. I call it a toss up, with NC State favored.

133. Orine #6 for NCS v. Fix #3 for OSU. I call it a toss up because rankings are close, but Fix has only lost one match in a dual meet in 5 years and has to be considered to be favored. Many would call this a lock for OSU despite close rankings.

141. Jack #4 for NCS V. Jamison #8 for OSU. Again a toss up, but NCS favored. Both were at CK, Jack finished 2nd and Jamison 5th. Jamison lost to guy fro NC and Jack beat that guy. Good test for Jamison.

149. Arrington #4 NCS v. Williams #20 OSU. I am calling it a toss up, but being a homer. Most would say NSC lock. But Williams has a lot of talent and may break out. But though toss up, NSC is favored.

157. Scott #6 NCS v. Travis #24 OSU. Again, being a homer calling it a toss up but Travis has only one loss, at Linderwood by one point to WIlliams. But even though I call it a toss up, clearly NCS favored. Most would say NCS lock.

165. Fields #20 NCS v. Olejnik #2 OSU. I am calling this a lock for OSU. Once you are outside of top 8 or so, Olejnik has had no trouble.

174. Faison #32 NCS v. Thompson #29 OSU. Ranking are close, so I am calling toss up. But Thompson is true freshman and losses were early, and has been very good in recent dual. OSU clearly favored and almost a lock.

184. Fishback #5 NCS v. Plott #3 OSU. A toss up and a good test for Plott. OSU has to considered as favored, but Plott is sometimes careless against solid foes and loses when he should not (Pinto loss in CK).

197. Hidlay #4 NCS v. Surber #12 OSU. I view this as lock for NCS. First, will Surber wrestle, and if he will it will be his first dual match back. Second, even on his best day, Surber is IMO no match for Hidlay. If it is Robb for OSU not Surber, likely extra points for NCS which could decide the match.

285. Trephan #16 NCS v. Doucet #11 OSU. I call it a toss up with OSU favored. Against guys outside of top 10 Doucet tends to win on riding time or in OT.


So based on who is favored, NCS wins 5 (125, 141, 149, 157, and 197) and OSU wins 5 (133, 165, 174, 184, and 285), so bonus point may decide match. Will never play out that way. If OSU loses a favored match, I think 184 or 285. Don't see them losing at 133, 165, or 174. For NCS, 125 and 141 could clearly go OSU's way. But looks to be a great dual no matter how you cut it and after dual will know lots about OSU.
 
Looks like a great dual with NC State on January 5th. Will use Intermat Rankings below. I say 1 match OSU is a lock, 1 match NC State is a lock, 8 toss ups. If one calls toss up, looks like a 5 to 5 dual.

125. Camacho #17 for NCS v. Spratley #22 for OSU. Camacho had been ranked much higher (#1 I think) but got pinned in Ohio State dual. Spratley has looked good at times, but has lost to everyone he wrestled in top 15. Let's see if he gets win. I call it a toss up, with NC State favored.

133. Orine #6 for NCS v. Fix #3 for OSU. I call it a toss up because rankings are close, but Fix has only lost one match in a dual meet in 5 years and has to be considered to be favored. Many would call this a lock for OSU despite close rankings.

141. Jack #4 for NCS V. Jamison #8 for OSU. Again a toss up, but NCS favored. Both were at CK, Jack finished 2nd and Jamison 5th. Jamison lost to guy fro NC and Jack beat that guy. Good test for Jamison.

149. Arrington #4 NCS v. Williams #20 OSU. I am calling it a toss up, but being a homer. Most would say NSC lock. But Williams has a lot of talent and may break out. But though toss up, NSC is favored.

157. Scott #6 NCS v. Travis #24 OSU. Again, being a homer calling it a toss up but Travis has only one loss, at Linderwood by one point to WIlliams. But even though I call it a toss up, clearly NCS favored. Most would say NCS lock.

165. Fields #20 NCS v. Olejnik #2 OSU. I am calling this a lock for OSU. Once you are outside of top 8 or so, Olejnik has had no trouble.

174. Faison #32 NCS v. Thompson #29 OSU. Ranking are close, so I am calling toss up. But Thompson is true freshman and losses were early, and has been very good in recent dual. OSU clearly favored and almost a lock.

184. Fishback #5 NCS v. Plott #3 OSU. A toss up and a good test for Plott. OSU has to considered as favored, but Plott is sometimes careless against solid foes and loses when he should not (Pinto loss in CK).

197. Hidlay #4 NCS v. Surber #12 OSU. I view this as lock for NCS. First, will Surber wrestle, and if he will it will be his first dual match back. Second, even on his best day, Surber is IMO no match for Hidlay. If it is Robb for OSU not Surber, likely extra points for NCS which could decide the match.

285. Trephan #16 NCS v. Doucet #11 OSU. I call it a toss up with OSU favored. Against guys outside of top 10 Doucet tends to win on riding time or in OT.


So based on who is favored, NCS wins 5 (125, 141, 149, 157, and 197) and OSU wins 5 (133, 165, 174, 184, and 285), so bonus point may decide match. Will never play out that way. If OSU loses a favored match, I think 184 or 285. Don't see them losing at 133, 165, or 174. For NCS, 125 and 141 could clearly go OSU's way. But looks to be a great dual no matter how you cut it and after dual will know lots about OSU.
Thanks for the preview. I'm looking forward to this one.
 
I think we are locks at 133, 165, 174, and 184. Need Doucet to pull one out and bonus points from Olejnik to have a chance. Hope Jamison can pull off the upset.
 
At some level, if Jamison is out not sure how much we lose with Hughes in. Hughes looked very good against Wyoming.

I agree with Lee C. If NCS is favored in 5 and OSU 5, the guy we need to win to get 5 wins is Doucet.

But being a homer, I still hoe we get an upset at 125, 141, 149 , and/or 157 so it is not a 5-5 dual. Those matches are key. All the NCS guys are likely AAs in 4 to 6 range. Even close losses are OK as we have young guys getting better. But if any of our guys are blown out at those weights, makes it hard to see them coming back as AAs in March.
 
If there was any consistency on calling takedowns and out of bounds Cowboys would be up 17-4 right now. FFS guys make up your minds!
 
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