What about a vending machine for dip tobacco in schools? Doesn't hurt anyone else.
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JTOSU
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That would be silly. Tobacco sales are illegal for non-adults.
And why would that be?
It’s just another big brother onerous and costly regulation!
Viva personal decisions and freedoms!
JTOSU
Ranger
Been laws about age restrictions for tobacco for 150 years in most states. All states for over 80 years.
You did balloon animals?
Well, they actually started that long ago, were rolled back by the industry for quite some time, then are back. But, duration isn't an answer for purpose. So, again, why are there laws against tobacco sales to minors?
JTOSU
Ranger
Weird that someone in the medical field cannot provide that answer for themself. That would be like me asking you financial questions.
By let me help you.. according to the CDC nearly 50% of people that start smoking in their youth ultimately die from smoking. Unlike a Snickers bar — tobacco use is highly addictive.
But let’s stop this stupid discussion. You know well that tobacco use is much worse than soft drinks and Snickers, a lot more addictive, and A LOT more studies proving the danger. I would never give my child a cigarette, but I would have not have a problem with my child having a candy bar every now and then. I imagine you feel the same way, but are just trying to be argumentative.
If you still want to advocate for more authoritarian governmental decisions — fine — but I do not agree.
You did balloon animals?
You might want to use the google machine.
This is not a stupid discussion. Just bc you don’t like the nature of the debate doesn’t make it stupid. While I don’t agree w you I for one learned that yes states did start restricting tobacco sells in the late 1800’s. While you are going to learn there are many studies that show sugar can be as addictive as nicotine and even cocaine. Other studies show the consequences of a sugary diet to be more unhealthy than tobacco usage.
I suspect it’s why you never answered the question about lifting “authoritative” restrictions on tobacco.
But I would guess you also are against seatbelt laws. Just another big brother overreach trying to keep more people alive.
JTOSU
Ranger
Answer me a simple question: 1) Would you ever give or buy your child (under 18) a cigarette? 2) Would you ever give or buy your child a Snickers? 3) Would you ever giver or buy your child a Coke or Dr Pepper?
If you are being honest, you know the answer is simple…it is 1) hell no; 2) yes; 3) yes.
Again, let’s stop being stupidly argumentative - you are trying to make a point that is failing.
So the answer is a)hell no (b) I wish we had made better choices as parents in relation to our kids’ health and nutrition and (c) same as b.
The point of the discussion is your insane fixation that any govt regulation is taken as an imposition on “muh freedoms.”
Stepping back big picture, the US has enacted many regulations that protect society at large and individuals. But people like you “conflate” privileges of enjoyment/consumption with liberties and freedoms.
So the discussion began with SNAP restrictions on junk food and how most of us agreed it was a good thing. But "people like you" seem fixated on something else.
The bigger picture is that he is fine and dandy with any particular regulation that he agrees with, but any he doesn't is "onerous burdensome big brother regulations".....but just because he says so.
What? Where did you gather he is fine with tobacco regulation but not with junk food regulation? Or vice versa?
You guys amaze me.
Maybe bc he posted as much.
Besides without this short little stroll we would have missed the discussion on vending machine condoms and ballon animals. I for one am a better person bc of that off ramp.
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