US continues to go backward...

Slowly boiling the frog.
Slowly ?? you have ZERO clue what you are talking about.

The ALA has been around since 1890 and this has ALWAYS been their position for PUBLIC libraries. NO banning of ANY material.

Leave the decision of the material you want to check out and read and consume up to the Parents and their Children in the Public libraries. Librarians have never been expected to Police Content of Books OR police who can or can not check out materials unless specifically age restricted. They leave that up to the Parents.

The ALA for 100 + years has always held the stance that for Public Libraries the selection of consumption and content is up to the Parent and their Child to decide what is best for them.
 
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LOL.

You cite a googled article (Politifact link) in support of what you're claiming.

I quote the article you provided in support and show it doesn't really support your claim. In fact, it contradicts your claim.

And then you question my news knowledge.

Sure thing, pigeon.

Scott's original proposal absolutely would have endangered SS.

The fact that he got fact-based pushback from BOTH Democrats AND Republicans is irrelevant to your claim that Democrats lied in their pushback by claiming that Scott wanted to eliminate SS in his bill.
You guys really think Scott knew what the bill said or had thought any of this through when he proposed whatever was written for him to put out there.
 
Slowly ?? you have ZERO clue what you are talking about.

The ALA has been around since 1890 and this has ALWAYS been their position for PUBLIC libraries. NO banning of ANY material.

Leave the decision of the material you want to check out and read and consume up to the Parents and their Children in the Public libraries. Librarians have never been expected to Police Content of Books OR police who can or can not check out materials unless specifically age restricted. They leave that up to the Parents.

The ALA for 100 + years has always held the stance that for Public Libraries the selection of consumption and content is up to the Parent and their Child to decide what is best for them.
The "ALA" is not a political neutral entity...they have an openly Marxist president. She absolutely will use her position to indoctrinate kids...which she has been very clear about several times.



I think your point that public education needs to be a site of socialist organizing, I think libraries really do too.

I haven’t seen that, working in libraries, but I think there’s a real opportunity here to both connect with what’s happening in public education, what’s happening in libraries, but also we need some help with libraries.

We need to be on the agenda of socialist organizing.
 
The "ALA" is not a political neutral entity...they have an openly Marxist president. She absolutely will use her position to indoctrinate kids...which she has been very clear about several times.


Yes, yes the ALA is politically Neutral.

This ignorant lady elected President is NOT. She has clearly stated she has personal and political beliefs which are not in line with the ALA and the ALA President has no Power in the ALA.

The ALA is controlled by an Executive board with an Executive Director and an Executive group of elected board members (of which this lady is NOT the Executive Director ) in conjunction with the board there is also an advisory group made up of 8 Council members that is chosen from the elected Council members....these 8 Council Members serve as advisors to the Executive Board......

These 8 Council Members are Selected from an Additional elected General ALA Council of 183 Individuals. The Lady who's personal beliefs that she herself acknowledges aren't in line with the ALA...she is one of these 183 individuals

She is One of these 183 elected individuals and has zero power or authority over the Executive Board. ...She was elected by the other 183 to serve as president of the 183 Member council and serve as one of 8 advisors to the ALA Executive Board. She will server 1 year as all Presidents elected do. Executive Board members server at a min of 3 years.

You can't paint the entire ALA and everything they stand for and have done for 100+ years because of this one ignorant nut job of a lady who has zero power or authority to do anything at all.

Now all that said, they need to make sure their membership steps up and ensure this lady isn't elected to any other positions in the ALA after her 1 year term.
 
Yes, yes the ALA is politically Neutral.

This ignorant lady elected President is NOT. She has clearly stated she has personal and political beliefs which are not in line with the ALA and the ALA President has no Power in the ALA.

The ALA is controlled by an Executive board with an Executive Director and an Executive group of elected board members (of which this lady is NOT the Executive Director ) in conjunction with the board there is also an advisory group made up of 8 Council members that is chosen from the elected Council members....these 8 Council Members serve as advisors to the Executive Board......

These 8 Council Members are Selected from an Additional elected General ALA Council of 183 Individuals. The Lady who's personal beliefs that she herself acknowledges aren't in line with the ALA...she is one of these 183 individuals....

She is One of these 183 elected individuals and has zero power or authority over the Executive Board. ...She was elected by the other 183 to serve as president of the 183 Member council and serve as one of 8 advisors to the ALA Executive Board

You can't paint the entire ALA and everything they stand for and have done for 100+ years because of this one ignorant nut job of a lady who has zero power or authority to do anything at all
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Absolutely hilarious.
 
:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: Absolutely hilarious.
you literally have no idea . I have been married to a Public librarian for 23+ years who is also a member of the ALA.

She and all of her coworkers are absolutely FURIOUS this lady has placed her personal belief in the spotlight and drawn unnecessary criticism to the ALA.

they have regular training sessions where they focus on the latest ALA guidelines...and as you can imagine the last few years they have had VERY Clear and VERY Straight forward guidelines about engaging anyone on political topics in a library setting or when discussing the library.

The ALA very strongly and very correctly teaches them a guideline that their Political opinions or stances when it comes to the Library are irrelevant and that the Library is not a political entity and takes no Political stance or will NOT censure anything based on political ideology or political leanings. They are told under no circumstances are they to discuss any Political topics or situations at work with patrons as the library is not the place for that.

So you can dang sure bet there are a BUNCH of libraries really upset with this lady too because she specifically went against the Guidelines she is supposed to the President of supporting.
 
you literally have no idea . I have been married to a Public librarian for 23+ years who is also a member of the ALA.

She and all of her coworkers are absolutely FURIOUS this lady has placed her personal belief in the spotlight and drawn unnecessary criticism to the ALA.

they have regular training sessions where they focus on the latest ALA guidelines...and as you can imagine the last few years they have had VERY Clear and VERY Straight forward guidelines about engaging anyone on political topics in a library setting or when discussing the library.

The ALA very strongly and very correctly teaches them a guideline that their Political opinions or stances when it comes to the Library are irrelevant and that the Library is not a political entity and takes no Political stance or will NOT censure anything based on political ideology or political leanings. They are told under no circumstances are they to discuss any Political topics or situations at work with patrons as the library is not the place for that.

So you can dang sure bet there are a BUNCH of libraries really upset with this lady too because she specifically went against the Guidelines she is supposed to the President of supporting.

Well that would be news to Kirk Cameron:
or this Mom's for Liberty Group in Davis County, CA
 
You guys really think Scott knew what the bill said or had thought any of this through when he proposed whatever was written for him to put out there.
If he didn't know or understand the effect of legislation he sponsored, that's as damning a statement as anything else.

I also think that is completely irrelevant to the question of what the actual language in the proposal would have potentially done to SS before it was amended.
 
If he didn't know or understand the effect of legislation he sponsored, that's as damning a statement as anything else.

I also think that is completely irrelevant to the question of what the actual language in the proposal would have potentially done to SS before it was amended.
I agree with you. HAGD JD.
 
Because he lied about it coming from the Biden administration. Like the constant lies about things that aren't part of the Democrat's party platform to trick low information voters. It's pathetic, dishonest, and immoral. I've always said there are political lies (i.e., puffery) which we've all come to accept (usually in the form of overpromising things), and there are outright falsehoods like "Biden wants to limit your beer intake" and the one about schools being required to provide kids with litter boxes if they identify as cats.

Edit: Polds beat me to it with more specifics, once these idiots mention it, they say it everywhere, and I guarantee you half of Oklahomans come next November will still be saying that they have to vote Trump because Biden went too far trying to limit them to two beers a week.

So the ploy is working and will garner Republican votes? Sounds like a solid plan if you’re a Republican. My non scientific completely made up poll says well over 90% of US voters are what you’d consider low information, they eat what they’re fed. It’s no different than the multiple anti Republican campaigns that Dems have thrown around for the last couple of decades. That’s the political model these days, heck it’s probably always been that way. But sure, it shouldn’t be that way and it’s frustrating.


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it's amazing people like this get voted into any office...gotta love 'merica...
That dude she left with definitely got lucky that night.

She could barely keep that dress on even without him tugging on it to get a look at the goods.
 
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